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After Defeat, Rightbloggers Look Inward and Agree: Someone Else Must Change

By Roy Edroso, Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 12:01AM
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It's been days since the election and the transition proceeds apace, though some rightbloggers are still hoping for a miracle ("Constitutional Crisis: The Real Question of Obama's Citizenship Grows"). Now is the time for reflection -- or, if one is not of a reflective turn of mind, recriminations.

In the mainstream press, "wet" conservatives like David Brooks and Christie Todd Whitman suggested that "Traditionalist" conservatism of the Rush Limbaugh/Sarah Palin stamp should give way to a fresher approach if the right wished to return to power. But we saw what rightbloggers thought of such moderates just before the election, and defeat has not made them more forgiving.

"Perhaps Christine Todd Whitman can explain," said Ace of Spades, "why a born-again Christian and declared social conservative won easily in 2004 and yet McCain... lost so badly." "Which group" -- the Reformers or the Traditionalists -- "draws bigger crowds, sells more books, and has more influence?" asked Right Wing News. "Purge the social conservatives from the GOP" and "enjoy minority status for a long, long, long time," warned The Right to Bear Arms.

For the most part rightbloggers felt their cause was betrayed, within and without, and if there was any reforming to be done, it would have to be done by, or to, somebody else.

Flopping Aces, for example, explained the Obama victory was caused by a "relentless media drumbeat" against the Bush Administration, through which conservatism "has been allowed to be defined by the opposition as a movement of racists, bigots, religious zealots, close-mindedness, selfish, for the rich and against the poor." So, the author asserted, "I don't believe the American public rejected conservatism." How then to get the American people to actually vote for the cause they did not reject? He defers to Matt Lewis, who counsels better use of the internet, and that "The GOP must become the Party of science and math."

"THE GOP MUST WIN OVER URBAN AMERICA," shouted The Astute Bloggers, but not by making policy changes -- the job will be done with vouchers and other traditional GOP talking points, comprising "AN AGENDA WHICH DOESN'T MAKE APPEALS TO IDENTITY GROUPS (RACE OR IMMIGRANTS OR COLLEGE EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS OR THE URBAN-UNDERCLASS)," which doesn't seem to leave a lot of city folk to effect that renaissance.

National Review's Yuval Levin reverted to nostalgia: Conservatives must "offer concrete conservative proposals for reforming our governing institutions," he said, which "need to be extensions of conservative successes in the past, like tax and welfare reform."

At The Next Right, Patrick Ruffini thought the GOP should "stick to its traditional principles, while distancing itself from examples of Bush's botched execution." He also advised better use of the internet, and "fielding younger, more inspiring candidates."

Protein Wisdom agrees that "we need the proper pitchmen," but also a change in nomenclature. "Make clear the distinctions" between classical liberals and other kinds, he advised: "Take back the terms (why call progressives 'liberals,' even derisively? Call them what they are, progressives, and tie them to their historical predecessors, including the New Left of Ayers and SDS)." Because it worked so well the last time.

Not that all the rightblogger chatter was constructive. There remained a lot of blame to assign.

Some turned on their old friend George W. Bush. "I still think people believe in cutting taxes and limiting government," said Patterico. "They just want a party that is actually going to do it."

Some blamed McCain: "A strange sense of 'honor,'" reported Ace of Spades from an alternate universe, "prevented him from attacking Democrats." The candidate was also alleged to suffer "residual guilt over voting against the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday which caused him again and again to play the race card on himself." (McCain also won a rightblogger poll for "Least Favorite Person on the Right.")

Some, not content to blame their politicians, sought new enemies. Say Anything turned on a traditional GOP constituency, Big Business. "These big-money interests representing American big business aren't lining up for a seat at Obama's table because they're free market capitalists," said SA. "They're lining up because they want a big-government politician, Obama in this instance, to use the power of government to line their politics... It's the socialists (or, more accurately for this instance, economic fascists) who are the crony capitalists." One wonders why they bothered, since the Republicans were already giving them everything they wanted.

The geniuses at RedState who had previously established "Operation Leper" to purge conservative apostates continued to fiddle with their RedState Channels: "When I first posted on Operation Leper, I put Steve Schmidt on the list... I can no longer say that Steve Schmidt was one of the smear artists out to harm Palin in order to protect his reputation." A movement that can show this kind of generosity is bound to attract new adherents.

Don't worry, they haven't forgotten Obama. Commentary's Abe Greenwald was angry that the President-Elect was putting up YouTubes addresses, describing them as an opportunity "for President Obama to recreate himself on every last surface and sound wave that hasn't yet been 'changed' in his image." J. G. Thayer is incensed that Obama's transition team has so many lawyers, because lawyers are incompetent to understand the terrorist mindset -- unlike, say, a hockey mom from Alaska. And of course the President-Elect remains responsible for declines on Wall Street during his pre-tenure.

But there'll be time enough to get to him. (TigerHawk was even relatively gentle about Obama's "60 Minutes" interview: "So far, he's not letting the inner lefty sneak out. Much.") Right now the rightbloggers are busy in their own kitchen; they've got their knives out, and now that the election's over, the Democrats are heading to the White House and the cupboard is bare, the only thing they have to cut is each other.

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Comments (12)

parsec says:

Cutting taxes (for your economic and social betters) and "limiting" government. Welfare and tax "reform." Keep on spending your energy squaring those circles, wingnuts.

Posted On: Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 10:21AM
really? says:

So Obama is both good for big business and he's killing the stock market.

We've elected a Supergenious!

Posted On: Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 12:10PM
Dennis Savage says:

Yeah, "really?", this is the 21st century! We want our Presidents to fix the economy before they even take office! Bush had a surplus to start from and eight years to screw up, so Obama ought to be able to reverse the ongoing train wreck in, what, a week, tops?

Posted On: Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 2:51PM
Basharov says:

It's the socialists (or, more accurately for this instance, economic fascists) who are the crony capitalists.

Hmm. Socialists=economic fascists=crony capitalists.

Where's the author of Liberal Fascism (the only person who could make sense of this equation) when you really need him?

Posted On: Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 4:47PM
jprice v says:

what's funny about the comments here is that nobody from alicublog seems to be posting anything and the other posters seem to want to comment about the subject, which is never the case back at the fort.

Posted On: Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 6:49PM
Righteous Bubba says:

"Purge the social conservatives from the GOP" and "enjoy minority status for a long, long, long time," warned The Right to Bear Arms.

I enjoy and enjoy and enjoy again.

Posted On: Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 8:10PM
reliapundit says:

thanks for the link/ink.

i think you deliberately miscontrued my post.

you wrote:

"THE GOP MUST WIN OVER URBAN AMERICA," shouted The Astute Bloggers, but not by making policy changes -- the job will be done with vouchers and other traditional GOP talking points, comprising "AN AGENDA WHICH DOESN'T MAKE APPEALS TO IDENTITY GROUPS (RACE OR IMMIGRANTS OR COLLEGE EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS OR THE URBAN-UNDERCLASS)," which doesn't seem to leave a lot of city folk to effect that renaissance.

-------

of course EVERYONE has an identity and everyone might be assigned membership to any number of different groups by gender or race and sexual preference etc.

i merely argue that the GOP doesn't have to and shouldn't play ID politics and should appeal to voters based on the fact that GOP policies will work and make their lives better.

as quality of life issues which transcend identity politics.

we need to smash the teacher's unions and other the unions ruining the schools.

we need to empower parents to put their kids in the best schools they can get into - like rich parents do.

we need to lower taxes so it's easier for entrpreneurs to start new businesses.

etc.

all of these policies are good for everyone in the city REGARDLESS of their race or gender or sexual preference etc.

that was my point.

Posted On: Monday, Nov. 17 2008 @ 9:53PM
Djur says:
we need to smash the teacher's unions and other the unions ruining the schools.

Oh, please do run with that. Pledging to smash workers under your heels has been so successful for Republicans in the past. Just go for it.

Posted On: Tuesday, Nov. 18 2008 @ 1:11AM
jim says:

Goldberg is chewing Parker a new one at the National Review for the heresy of pointing out that the GOP's love-affair with lunatic-fringe Biblethumpers has cost them the presidency, & that romance will likely keep them in the political wilderness for a long time to come.

The comments on nearly all the wingnut blogs are festivals of recrimination & bile - & of course, everyone KNOWS their P.O.V. is the only correct one.

I don't recall EVER seeing a bare-knuckle post-election orgy of fratricide like this in US politics in my lifetime, & I'm no teenybopper.

The GOP primaries in 2011/2012 are going to be a LOT uglier than in 1999/2000.

They may as well just go whole-hog & nominate Cthulhu outright at this point - remember: to be the one who gets devoured first by the om-nom-nom-nominee is the highest of honors!

Posted On: Thursday, Nov. 20 2008 @ 1:54AM
Wilson says:

"we need to lower taxes so it's easier for entrpreneurs to start new businesses."

I started two new restaurants and the question of taxes never came up at all in the process. Now if you could get the banks to start LENDING some money, that would be great, but taxes are not the make-or-break issue the Republicans try to justify, at least not in my view or situation.

Posted On: Friday, Nov. 28 2008 @ 3:45PM
Wilson says:

"we need to lower taxes so it's easier for entrpreneurs to start new businesses."

I started two new restaurants and the question of taxes never came up at all in the process. Now if you could get the banks to start LENDING some money, that would be great, but taxes are not the make-or-break issue the Republicans try to justify, at least not in my view or situation.

Posted On: Friday, Nov. 28 2008 @ 3:46PM
Lisette Osnoe says:

Thanks very much for putting together this great site.

Posted On: Sunday, Jan. 17 2010 @ 3:30AM

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