Ah FUCK you bitches. After 8 years of your horsehit you think we're gonna be GRACIOUS towards your asses? Payback's comin', baby. You dished your shit out, now you can take it. Queers.

Well, at least Matty and Dean made into here.

Still gotta work on that visibility stuff!

;^ )

Let me see if I can translate this post:

"I wish those stinkin' right wingers would just shut up and let us gloat today. We won, you jerks!"

Nothin' like bringing America together, is there?

Let me see if I can translate this post:

"I wish those stinkin' right wingers would just shut up and let us gloat today. We won, you jerks! Just wait for the fairness doctrine!"

Nothin' like bringing America together, is there?

I'm sure that if McCain had won, the left side of the commentariat would have been overwhelmingly generous and kind. Daily Kos, in particular, would have had lovely things to say about the gentleman.

They've proven their good will and decency time and time again, dontchaknow?

shouldn't bin Laden declare peace now that we've elected a muslim terrorist?

Roy:

You totally missed the mark on what Jay Nordlinger wrote.

Also, the irony in this piece is delish.

Jay Nordlinger sounds like more of an ass in his response to this post than he did in his "Quick Inaugural Reax." First he's offended that the Air & Light was performed by people of "ethno-racial variety," and in the follow-up he's like, only white people can be artists! What a wanker.

I'm sure that if McCain had won, the left side of the commentariat would have been overwhelmingly generous and kind. Daily Kos, in particular, would have had lovely things to say about the gentleman.

Oh, my...the poor dears have noticed that we're gloating. And here I thought we were doing such a good job of keeping it on the down-low, if you catch my meaning...

Ahhh, the sound of wingnut whining in January. Sounds like...whining.

I'm sure that if McCain had won, the left side of the commentariat would have been overwhelmingly generous and kind. Daily Kos, in particular, would have had lovely things to say about the gentleman.

Oh, my...the poor dears have noticed that we're gloating. And here I thought we were doing such a good job of keeping it on the down-low, if you catch my meaning...

Ahhh, the tinny refrain of wingnut whining in January. Sounds like...whining.

Um, I guess I missed the part where Jay Nordlinger said "only white people can be artists." As someone who's been reading Nordlinger's reviews for years, I can attest to the fact that he loathes any consideration of race whatsoever when it comes to the arts. He's all about letting the best musicians play, skin color be damned. He simply couldn't care less. In fact, it's the left, not the right, who incessantly harp on race. Jay was merely wondering if that obsession – so prevalent throughout this entire election – had come into play here, since the group of musicians was so ethnically diverse. Fortunately, they were also some of the world's finest, which I'm quite certain Nordlinger would acknowledge.

Captain Goto brings a unique sense of ha ha to the proceedings. Thanks, Cap!

Whining? Hardly. I merely think it's funny that someone might complain that people who neither voted for Obama nor like his political policies might not celebrate as vociferously as his supporters.

But, wingnut as I must be, any protestations must be merely another vintage of whine.

Thanks for your thoughts and please feel free to return to your gloating.

I'm one of those pro-freedom weirdos who believe their lives and property belong to them and not to the State. Could you explain to me why I should be enjoying the inauguration of Senator Spread-the-Wealth?

Oh, wait a minute, I can think of one. I invested in precious metals. If only I had bought stock in Colt, Glock and Smith&Wesson before the election.

Sorry Marge, Nordie brought it up, not us.

This "incessant harping" with reading race into every goddamn thing starts on your side of the aisle. I expect we're going to be regaled in the years ahead with a million variations of "What is it with these blacks and race?"

If John McCain had chosen that group of musicians for his inaugral, would we have been treated to this furrowed-brow worrying about its racial make-up? Doubtful.

Jay was merely wondering if that obsession – so prevalent throughout this entire election – had come into play here, since the group of musicians was so ethnically diverse. >

Odd then, Margaret, that under the circumstances he would wonder about it at all. Unless he has an obsession of his own.

I've read a ton of the right blogs today and NONE of them are coming close to the despicable crap that was typical of left blogs during the Bush Administration. Then again, you guys love equating the actions of our own soldiers with terrorists so why not equate snark about Obama with the loathsome and vile attacks on Bush?

Nothing is beneath you and everything is above you.

Don't forget that Nordlinger actually goes on to say that "My entire career — in countless articles on music and politics and the occasional crossing between the two — I have written against the intrusion of race and ethnicity into the arts."

Pizdetz, as the Russians say.

Nordlinger is right.

"I've read a ton of the right blogs..."

Translation: Waaaah!

And to you (for offering a variation) and the rest of rightist slime that slithers over here" Quoth Former V.P. Cheney- "Go fuck yourself."

I don't particularly recall any fucking wingnuts protesting when the entire right wing (including leadership via innuendo and "code" words) implicitly OR explicit equated anyone who deigned to criticize ANY fucking thing your team did "in a time of war" (gasp!) as a lack of patriotism, hating America, or treason.

So somebody once said mean about Bush- go cry me a fuckin' river, then drown in it.

"I've read a ton of the right blogs..."

Translation: Waaaah!

And to you (for offering a variation) and the rest of the rightist slime that slithers over here- Quoth Former V.P. Cheney- "Go fuck yourself."

I don't particularly recall any fucking wingnuts protesting when the entire right wing (including leadership via innuendo and "code" words) implicitly OR explicitly equated anyone who deigned to criticize ANY fucking thing your team did "in a time of war" (gasp!) as a lack of patriotism, hating America, or treason.

So somebody once said something mean about Bush- go cry me a fuckin' river, then drown in it.

Personally I thought the shot of Obama looking on as the "Air" was played was the best part of the ceremony, although his speech was also good. BTW I voted for Bush (twice) and McCaine but don't recall gloating in the first two instances and only recall a mild lamentation at the third. Good luck, Mr. President.

Mustard . . . the Kos Kids' answer to H. L. Mencken.

Let me see if I can translate this post

I recommend working on your translation skills.

As for the rest of the moaning from the right - I propose a name change to "whingenut".

I have written against the intrusion of race and ethnicity into the arts.

This could mean that he's opposed to those of a certain race or any ethnicity intruding in on the arts (Fiddler on the Roof being pure poison in that sense.)

Or, it could mean: If there's one thing I fucking hate, it's an Irish drinking song! And Public Enemy. Where do they get off talking about a Fear of a Black Planet? Movies, music and the arts should only be about genderless, colorless blobs — that, and paying taxes on time.

I want milque. And I want toast. And I resent anything else, including vanilla.

But yes, keep complaining GOP. Your tears taste like vindication. Your godhead all but ruined this fucking country and if you think you can make a case to the opposite you're dumber than I already think. Suck it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I would like to invite all the right wing nutjobs writing nasty things on this lovely inauguration day to - in the words of Joe Pesce- go fuck their mothers.

"All must hail our new Leader, King BHO! You, too, right-wingers!" Yes, massah, Village Voice, yes, massah. PATHETIC.

So much class exhibited here. I thought that the BDS and vitriol would stop once Bush left office. Clearly there isn't going to be any "change" there. Alas.

A.C., are you still here? I thought Nathan just told you to go fuck your mother.

My fellow Americans: Today we watch the Bush administration and most of what they stand for swirl down urinal of history. For this we can rejoice. Yet many wingnuts remain, too stupid to come to terms with their catastrophic failure, fouling the public facilities with their stink. They are the pink urinal cakes of history and we, the people, must piss on them accordingly, until they finally go away. So have a beer my friends, or twelve, and do your duty. Thank you.

Hey, it's a great day for speeches. What can I say?

thought that the BDS and vitriol would stop once Bush left office. Clearly there isn't going to be any "change" there. Alas.

You got this all wrong, Mr. Sensitive. See, Obama -- to my chagrin -- probably will let Bush skate, content to let history judge him. I want a judge to judge him. To think that today means that the catastrophe of the Bush years is now neatly filed into "the past" is just a case of misplaced Senioritis on behalf of the deadenders and simple-minded.

Obama might possibly even believe that the nation would be best served by "moving forward". It's understandable. Most people don't like to dwell on tragedy. But to millions of us, people who've had to suffer through this nauseating era of war, greed and pure mendacity, we want accountability.

Someone is at fault. It's time to know the full story and find out who.

And yeah, ethnicity has no place in the arts. It's nice to see that after 8 years of failure, 'conservative intellectuals' can find something purely idiotic to focus on. Fewer people will die because of it.

When did conservatives become so delicate anyway?

So much class exhibited here.

Yeah, we haven't even tortured any towelheads yet. Shame on us.

I've read a ton of the right blogs today and NONE of them are coming close to the despicable crap that was typical of left blogs during the Bush Administration

That's because Bush, and his administration, were total fuck-ups. The Right has already judged Obama: he's baaaad because he's blaaaack! Mommy!!

But, wingnut as I must be, any protestations must be merely another vintage of whine.

Self-awareness is the first step.

Could you explain to me why I should be enjoying the inauguration of Senator Spread-the-Wealth?

You'll see the end of President Spend-the-Wealth.

when the entire right wing (including leadership via innuendo and "code" words) implicitly OR explicit equated anyone who deigned to criticize ANY fucking thing your team did "in a time of war" (gasp!) as a lack of patriotism, hating America, or treason.

Since that only happened in your imagination, it's a bit much to have expected others to have condemned it.

Awww, you're suffering is over, Jayb! You can stop cringeing!

This blog is hilarious. Obamabots-the new Monty Python.

Since that only happened in your imagination, it's a bit much to have expected others to have condemned it.

This took me about five seconds to find. Are you simply an idiot who missed the last 8 years, or a dishonest hack?

Sept. 16, 2001, Andrew Sullivan: The middle part of the country—the great red zone that voted for Bush—is clearly ready for war. The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead—and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column.

Sept. 26, 2001, Ari Fleischer: And that's why—there was an earlier question about has the President said anything to people in his own party—they're reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do. This is not a time for remarks like that; there never is.

From the ALCU: The ACLU filed today's lawsuit, Rank v. Jenkins, after obtaining a heavily redacted version of the Presidential Advance Manual from the Justice Department. This manual is the Bush administration's guide for planning presidential events around the country, and it repeatedly instructs organizers about "the best method for preventing demonstrators," "deterring potential protestors from attending events," "designat[ing] a protest area . . . preferably not in view of the event site or motorcade route," and the like.

The lawsuit names as plaintiffs Jeff and Nicole Rank, who were arrested at a Fourth of July presidential appearance at the West Virginia State Capitol because they were wearing T-shirts critical of the president, and Alex Young and Leslie Weise, Denver residents who were thrown out of a town hall meeting with President Bush because they had an anti-war bumper sticker on their car.

From a "Patriot Petition" in 2004: We understand that no action is likely to be taken on this petition until after the 02 November election. Be it known, however, that on 03 November, we will seek full recourse in an effort to have John Kerry prosecuted for acts of treason and disqualified from any future campaign for any national office. We are thus committed to holding Mr. Kerry accountable for his actions, as there is no statute of limitations for acts of treason.

So other than threats, arrests, the suspension of habeas corpus and screaming accusations of treason, you're right Mars! Excellent work!

Awww, you're suffering is over, Jayb! You can stop cringeing!

You sir, are a worthy foil, what with your excellent comprehension skills and grammar! Please keep posting your thoughts.

The basic storyline of the Obama administration will be centered on his ability to ignore/transcend/transform the loudest, stupidest, and most hate-filled impulses and noises of his "base."

A lesson of the last eight years is that people who know, absolutely for sure, that they are immune to loud stupid hatred are very likely to fall prey to them. And they will do so with tremendous energy, because they are so dead certain of their superiority to those they imagine are prone to such disgusting attributes.

The modern left, heirs to the Pharisees.

Anyone who spent even 1/32 of a second mechanically defending Republicans over the last 8 years--in the face of the reams of evidence of monstrous fuck-uppery displayed by that gang of thugs--has no fucking business appending the syllable "-bot" to someone with the common sense to call them out for the idiots they are.

And *we're* the ones with the "imagination??" Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.

A lesson of the last eight years is that people who know, absolutely for sure, that they are immune to loud stupid hatred are very likely to fall prey to them.

The modern right, heirs to the Amnesiacs.

"Pharisees." Oh, Lord, *that*'s rich.

Clue to Paul S: the blitherings of a pompous ass are not converted into wisdom by the clumsy tacking-on of Biblical allusions.

A lesson of the last eight years is that people who know, absolutely for sure, that they are immune to loud stupid hatred are very likely to fall prey to them.

No, son. The lesson of the last eight years is that loud, stupid, hateful people can control the most powerful nation on the planet for eight years. With a predictable outcome.

This is not a discussion. Go sit in the corner and count to a hundred. We'll contact you in another eight years.

Yeah, why would anyone accuse your side of treason? It's not like your new prez started his political career in the home of a terrorist or anything...hmm, wait...

It's not like your new prez started his political career in the home of a terrorist or anything...hmm, wait...

George Washington was an insurgent. Deal with it you simpering pussy.

Except he loved his country. Not like Marxists. Moron.

Except he loved his country. Not like Marxists. Moron.

He loved Great Britain? Funny way of showing it.

Do you always repeat yourself when under stress? I recommend vodka. Marxists prefer schnapps.

Just when I love what I say so much I have to say it twice.

Reading these comments makes me happy I live abroad. What's happening to American???? Adolescent toilet talk.

... Just when I love what I say so much I have to say it twice. ...

Huh? Are you Rainman?

Jay b:

Not sensitive at all. Just thought that you all might be able to let go of your senseless hate. I guess that's too much to ask.

Leeds man:

In order to futilely attempt to rebut my point, you resort to racial stereotypes? Talk about proving my point. Thank you. To paraphrase something else Nordlinger quoted today, now I know what you all mean when you claim to want a classless society.

Jay b:

Not sensitive at all. Just thought that you all might be able to let go of your senseless hate. I guess that's too much to ask.

Leeds man:

In order to futilely attempt to rebut my point, you resort to racial stereotypes? Talk about proving my point. Thank you. To paraphrase something else Nordlinger quoted today, now I know what you all mean when you claim to want a classless society.

If only I had bought stock in Colt, Glock and Smith&Wesson before the election.

Yes, if only you were able to lose more money in the stock market. Damn. If only!

Roy, I was going to say I appreciated Althouse defending/explaining the oath of office screw up, but I have to say I was sidetracked by all of the conservative comments projecting onto us. All I can really say is blah blah blah, who gives a shit, the nut jobs are out of office, time to raise taxes on the rich. Although the tax rate won't be as high as it was from 1982-1986, when the great socialist Ronald Reagan taxed people who earned over $150K at a rate of 50%. I wonder if he masturbated to portraits of Marx when he wasn't shoving jelly beans up his wrinkled asshole.

Thank God he's dead.

... In order to futilely attempt to rebut my point ...

Point? What point? Was there something meaningful mixed in there with your whining?

Dear Mr Bush,

thank you for running the USA into the ground. Thank you for invading a country on the basis of lies, causing it to implode, and then congratulating yourself on your "victory". Thank you for overseeing, with the help of duped, oh-so-bipartisan Democrats, a period of pandering deregulation which has resulted in economic catastrophe.

No hard feelings, because that would be "senseless hate", and might make one of your wretched followers uncomfortable. I understand that hundreds of thousands of people have died, but then again somebody unclassily swore on the internet -- so it all balances out.

Yours graciously.

So, what's your point, retard, that we should raise taxes even higher, or that Reagan was nice and confiscatory compared to Satan George Bush? By the way they were reduced to 28% in '86. Which is still too high. Why aren't all you losers out partying, btw? At least we non-obamabots have an excuse for reading these dumb blogs on inauguration night. If I was as classless as chrisv82, i'd say i can't wait till obambi's dead. But I'm not. So I won't.

"Reading these comments makes me happy I live abroad. What's happening to American???? Adolescent toilet talk."

Yeah. It bugs me too. But I've read things in other places that bug me more. There are fairly open discussions elsewhere (on both Left and Right) exchanging tactical advice for "the upcoming civil war".

I'd just as soon sit that out, if I can manage it. Interesting times.

If I was as classless as chrisv82...

...you'd find yourself hurling insults like "retard".

Better e-mail Nordlinger and reassure him it's not your fault because they started it.

AS one that voted for Obama, I will admit the right in general has been far more gracious than we ever were to Mr. Bush. They are at least trying to be civil and for the most part respectful. Bush was damaged goods on day one because he was not "our" President, we wanted him to fail and now we wonder why the country is fucked up?

To those on the right, he is your President too, give him a chance, a chance we didn't give Bush.

You're right. It's insulting to the mentally challenged to compare them to Obamabots.

Wow. A voice of reason on a village voice blog. Get ready to be pilloried mikeb, for not hating Bush sufficiently. Most people continue to believe, delusionally, that Bush never won, so they use that as their excuse for hating their prez for the last 8 years. In actuality, if the hacks in our press corps. had not lied to people and told them the Fla. polls were closed when they weren't, we'd have been spared that whole cable news drama as Bush would've won the state by 10-15k votes or more. Kennedy, on the other hand, really did steal it in 1960, but we got over it. I'm ready, by the way, to give the big O a chance, but since I already know (unlike Obama, or Bush, or McCain) Keynesian economics doesn't work, i'm not expecting much success.

mike b:

well said. obama is my president, yes, and i have been pleasantly surprised thus far (at least with respect to the people he's put forth for a number of positions). we'll see what happens, but i wish him nothing but the best.

everyone else:

read what mike b said. that's the whole point of it. well, that and the following facts: a) bush was not a true conservative, so your efforts to paint conservatives with bush's failings are ludicrous, b) bush is an "insert vulgar term here" is not an argument; it is namecalling and puerile, at best, c) there are those of us out there who are willing to meet you halfway if you'd only stop reverting to ad hominem lunacy (see point b).

a good night to all, and again, all the best to the new president.

Heavens, Roy, never before have so many hyperventilating trolls showed up. And on such a tame post, too! The next 4-8 years are going to be a lot of fun.

Ben-that's because conservatives are much more tolerant of dissent than progressives. That's why you see left-wing trolls all over HumanEvents and other conservative blogs and very little of the opposite here and at other left-wing blogs. I'm bored, though, hence my annoying presence. It's also why Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin need armed guards when they speak at universities, and Al Franken (when he's not steling senate seats) and Michael Moore don't. Conservatives don't need to waste their time shouting down Moore and Franken.

And I agree with john. In fact, you all should love Bush; he's done more to discredit the conservative movement with his phony imperialistic neoconservatism and compassionate conservatism than any progressive ever could've done. Your welcome.

Bush was damaged goods on day one because he was not "our" President, we wanted him to fail and now we wonder why the country is fucked up?

Of course, it all makes sense now. The Democrats wanted him to fail, so they gave him only token opposition and let him do whatever he wanted. Allowed to enact conservative policies all across the board, his failure was inevitable.

a) bush was not a true conservative,

How convenient for you to discover that now that his approval rating is in the ditch. Pity all the conservative magazines and blogs failed to notice something like that.

Keynesian economics doesn't work,

Except for those post-war decades back last century which have somehow slipped everyone's mind.

Oh, and Michael Moore does need armed guards at public appearances. As they say in your country: "your welcome!"

??? Government spending was far less a percentage of total GDP in the fifties and sixties than the 20% + it is now. And unemployment was the same in 1937 as it was in 1933, after all that glorious new dealin'. But, i'm sure Obama will make it work somehow...be optimistic and a good citizen...be optimistic and a good citizen.....

Well, if he does, i guess it's because he's such a wuss, since i have yet to hear about how conservatives have attacked Moore the way Coulter's been assaulted by your side's goon patrol.

Fear of a Black Clarinetist.

According to The People History unemployment during the years you mention was:

1933: 25.2
1937 19.0

With 1936 being 14.0 (Roosevelt tried to balance the budget after his re-election).

And the only "assault" I'm aware of on Coulter was attempted with a cream pie.

Change ya can believe in! Give me five years and i'll lower unemployment from a quarter to a fifth of the population! Excellent.

"I've read a ton of the right blogs today and NONE of them are coming close to the despicable crap that was typical of left blogs during the Bush Administration."
Posted by: TRO

Did you, now?

"To: chris_bdba; freekitty; SouthTexas; ZULU; ladyvet; celtic gal; TXRed; samtheman; Piquaboy; unkus; ...
I refuse to watch or listen to the Liberal false god during his reign of power! His persona is one of arrogance and stupidity. His demeanor is reprehensible and disgusting beyond words other than profanity, IMO.

6 posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 12:25:24 PM by ExTexasRedhead"

"To: Dionysius
Considering the sheer amount of pork in the proposed stimulus bill. . . Shouldn't this be called the Triumph of the Swill ???"

Nope - nothing loathsome or vile there.
Maybe you're not reading the right right-wing blogs?

Tommy

And yet another factoid is hurled out:

Government spending was far less a percentage of total GDP in the fifties and sixties than the 20% + it is now

Not only is this (yet again) utter garbage, it reveals in passing that A.C. has no idea what Keynesianism is. Pathetic.

Arrogant, ignorant, fact-free: the modern conservative. No wonder they lost.

It appears that A.C finally passed out.

Tommy

there are those of us out there who are willing to meet you halfway

Well, that would be the problem right there, John. No one in here is willing to so much as lift a finger for you. You had your chance and blew it. So kindly piss off, and take your phony indignation and your even more phony attempts at reconciliation with you.

Ben-that's because conservatives are much more tolerant of dissent than progressives. That's why you see left-wing trolls all over HumanEvents and other conservative blogs and very little of the opposite here and at other left-wing blogs.

Conservatives have always been very tolerant of dissent.

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aw:

clearly you don't read all that much if you think that conservative authors/bloggers/etc. praised bush in lockstep over the last eight years.

realist:

and this is why we snicker when we hear things like "party of tolerance."

for the record, i'm 25. i haven't been around long enough to have blown any chances. you should actually try to go comprehend what i wrote without the blinders. nothing about it was phony. you'd be surprised at how far you'd get if you stopped acting like a douchebag. choice is your's, though.

ChirsV82 quotes me: "If only I had bought stock in Colt, Glock and Smith&Wesson before the election." And comments:

"Yes, if only you were able to lose more money in the stock market. Damn. If only!"

Don't know the reason why he would want me to lose money in the stock market; but to search for reason in the comments of "liberals" is to search for teeth in hens. And I suspect Chris is probably feigning density when it comes to irony. In any event, I meant for the relative short term, as people stock up, and before the Iron Boot comes down.

Nothing stings like public failure on a global scale. Ruined economy, multiple wars, destruction of an entire city, denigration of the nation's position in the world--gosh, think what conservatives could have done with another four years controlling the government.

As the nation struggles to recover from the Smash-and-Grab Presidency, conservatives are going to have a hard time finding sympathy for their pain. I suggest they concentrate on NRA meetings, when they can fondle their semi-automatic rifles and dream of the good old days when they could chuckle about their vice-president shooting his friend in the face and making him apologize for being a victim.

The author is wrong about Nordlinger, and his stubborness in simply acknowledging this is telling.

Nordlinger has a long track record as a music authority, and human rights advocate. His revulsion at racial obsession is well-documented. It is because of this revulsion that he acknowledged what *could* have been racial selection.

He also clearly acknowledged he had no particular reason to assert an affirmative action bias in their selection as all these musicians were world-class.

To imply he is some sort of race-baiter indicates ignorance of his specialty, and ignorance of how these issues have been hot-button ones in classical music.

That would be excusable, of course, if the error was admitted upon its revelation. We can't all be experts on everything. Stubbornly insisting there is no error, though, tells us all we need to know about this parochial, arrogant, and insecure blowhard.

How typically conservative of you John. You come here looking to pick a fight, and when you get one, you start whining about civility.

I just read a boatload of his work. He shows his revulsion at racial obsession by obsessing over the racial make-up of the music industry. In other words, he whines about minorities like every other conservative.

Now I must go read medical and mathematical expert Dr. Mark Steyn's ruminations on the fertility rates of Muslim versus non-Muslim communities. Right after I read sex expert Kathryn Jean Lopez's advice for married women.

Nordlinger's track record includes his defense of Rush Limbaugh's assertion that sportswriters were *purposely* overrating Donovan McNabb, because he's an African-American. (A quick look at McNabb's career statistics, and the coverage in the Philadelphia press, show that to be complete nonsense)

Roy was dead on target.

Synykyl:

Huh. I didn't know pointing out a clearly incoherent reading of someone else's words was political.

Can I assume that saying stupid things (as you have just done) is something inherent to the left?

Do you see the complete breakdown in logical reasoning there? I sure hope so.

So, what's your point, retard, that we should raise taxes even higher, or that Reagan was nice and confiscatory compared to Satan George Bush? By the way they were reduced to 28% in '86. Which is still too high.

Obviously, retard, taxes should be higher if you want to sustain all those swell George W. Bush policies. You get what you can pay for.

Sorry John,

Anyone who reads your earlier posts, can see that what I wrote about them (and you) is true.

So the question is did Ma and Perlman get the job ahead of some more qualified christian white superstar classical musician?

Go ahead, name one.

I have to say, though, the idea that anyone outside the ivory dick and cross brigade can be presumed to be unqualified window dressing explains a lot about right punditry.

So the question is did Ma and Perlman get the job ahead of some more qualified christian white superstar classical musician?

Go ahead, name one.

I have to say, though, the idea that anyone outside the ivory dick and cross brigade can be presumed to be unqualified window dressing explains a lot about right punditry.

And the top marginal tax rate was reduced to 28% in 1988, not 1986. The result of this was a revenue shortfall that threatened to trigger the Gramm-Rudman 5% across-the-board budget cuts. After "read my lips, no new taxes" H. W. was reduced to pleading with congress to raise taxes so that Gramm-Rudman wouldn't reduce the entitlements his middle-class voters had come to expect without in some cases knowing it. Amazingly, congress did the "responsible" thing, H. W. thanked them effusively, and next year during the mid-terms he campaigned against them for raising taxes. But not even becoming the conqueror of Mesopotamia saved him from the recession of his final year. The new president Clinton raised the top rate to 39.6 and an 8-year economic expansion followed.

Oh, and the top marginal rates of the 40s exceeded 80% and from 1951 to 1963 they were just over 90%.

Nordlinger has a long track record as a music authority

Look sister, just because you dance in your underwear, it doesn't make you Madonna.

and human rights advocate.

As long as you are a mediocre white guy held back by the system.

His revulsion at racial obsession is well-documented. It is because of this revulsion that he acknowledged what *could* have been racial selection.

What, in any form, can this mean but that HE TOO is obsessed with it? If he was truly color blind, the fucking moron would have realized that every single person who performed yesterday is popular, accomplished and/or world class. The ONLY person who cares about the racial makeup seems to be the one who is 'revulsed' by what he imagines to be "racial selection", an idiotic standard by any rational measure.

Also, Mike, Mr. Liberal Obama Voter: Let's take your hypothetical -- that conservatives have been more 'gracious', when not counting the number of black folk in the inaugural entertainment contingent -- at face value.

First, I remember 2000 quite well. Since you must have been about ten or eleven let's discuss WHY liberals might have been a little less "gracious" to Bush, who, after all, lost the popular vote, 'won' the election with disputed results in the state his brother ran and were bizarrely ratified by a court his father helped pick (a decision which they disowned in the decision itself.) all while Republican kids were rioting in Miami to pressure people into seeing things their way. The result? We were told immediately to "get over it".

Personally, though, i don't give a fuck if Republicans are gracious or not. If they want to oppose the President that's their right. And plenty of them have chosen to oppose him.

Now Nordlinger is whining that people are blaming him for his failures. Only a conservative could feel victimized by the consequences of his own actions.

aw-it's got everything to do with keynesian economics, which is based on a partially planned economy. Who do you think does the plannin'? King O and the Congress. But, you are correct I misspoke, meant to say in 20s and 30s before New Deal. Which is what was the topic. Sorta like when Ann Coulter publishes a book w/500 verifiable footnotes and all you libs and political smear merchants like Brock's little outfit call her a liar or an idiot for an unintentional error. If it makes ya feel better, though, hey...i won't piss on your parade.

parsec-i never mentioned the top rate in the 40s and 50s. Is that your wish or "argument"; hopefully, Obambi will push it back to 90%? You might get your wish. Kennedy lowered it from 90%; back then even Dems cared about the fact that it's not their money. Imagine that! By the way, the "responsible" thing would have been for Congress to loosen their lips on the tit of American taxpayer money, don't you think? Nah, course not. Just raise taxes. Cause Congress will "responsibly" spend it.

Synykyl:

You didn't respond to what I wrote.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and proclaiming that you're right doesn't make it the case. Sorry about that.

Nothing is more hilarious than race-obsessed progressives accusing conservatives of being obsessed with race. That idiot yesterday, and his stupid poem, who was only there because of all the "tolerance" for Rick Warrren? Yeah, he's not obsessed with race. Congressman Meeks? No racial obsession there! All you libs who support race-based discrimination and call it the euphemism of affirmative action? No race obsession there. Muslims do procreate more Susan; what, we're supposed to not notice that? Only libs think noticing and acknowledging basic facts about the world around you is somehow racism, as opposed to your projection. You libs are big on projection, aren't you? Wish all 60 million of you could get analyzed already and get that all worked out.

This is killing you, isn't it? You can admit it; we won't tell. Having a black president is absolutely killing you, and there's nothing you can do abou tit except whine and cry and rub your little fists into your eyes.

Awwwww. Baby need a nap?

That idiot yesterday, and his stupid poem, who was only there because of all the "tolerance" for Rick Warrren?

You mean, of course, Rev. Lowry, who cofounded the SCLC with Dr. King and organized the Montgomery Bus Boycott?

Yeah. It was all about Rick Warren, the invitation for Rev. Lowry.

That idiot yesterday, and his stupid poem, who was only there because of all the "tolerance" for Rick Warrren?

You mean, of course, Rev. Lowery, who cofounded the SCLC with Dr. King and organized the Montgomery Bus Boycott?

Yeah. It was all about Rick Warren, the invitation for Rev. Lowery.

A. C., I give you facts and you come back with empty-calorie rhetoric.

Since you brought up Coulter and her epic use of bogus footnotes:

http://tinyurl.com/9ectss

http://tinyurl.com/8zgra9

Enjoy.

Keep on whining, Conservatives. It's your right.

I'll even refrain from calling you TRAITORS, the way your cohorts did to us Liberals back when Bush appointed himself God-Emperor, for having the temerity to point out that he was making a hash of everything.

Keep us honest. It's hard work, but someone has to do it--and Obama seems like he might actually listen to someone besides Dick Cheney and the voices in his head.

... Sticking your fingers in your ears and proclaiming that you're right doesn't make it the case. ...

John,

Coming from someone with his head up his ass, that's pretty damned funny ;-)

Synykyl:

Again, you fail to respond with anything of substance. Instead, you resort to being crass. Quite telling.

But quick...get that last word in!

aw-it's got everything to do with keynesian economics, which is based on a partially planned economy. Who do you think does the plannin'? King O and the Congress.

What, you mean that economic policy can affect the economy? Say it ain't so!

Mike B at 12:02 AM is exactly right. I too supported Obama even though he's a Communist. I'm a card-carrying Democrat, but I've never been so disgusted by the disrespect for Bush. I'm sure his time in office would have been a great success if only the Democrats in Congress had been more cooperative.

... you fail to respond with anything of substance ...

John,

All you've done is whine, whine, whine. You've gotten precisely the response you deserve.

julia-the Rev. Lowery who was babbling incoherently and anachronisticly about not 'lettin the red man ahead, and if its brown flush it down' or something of the sorts? Yeah, that's the one. THAT idiot. Thanks, forgot his name. Hey, i liked him, that was my favorite part of the whole day! Forgot also that, in the new Big O age, we're supposed to be so condescending and patronizing towards black people that when one says something so ridiculous and hysterically absurd as what Lowery said, we're just supposed to not notice and say it's all conservatives fault for being racist. But I'm gettin with the program! Susan of Texas (i'm gonna guess Austin) has already taught me the newspeak by inventing some fantasy of what she thinks i said unrelated whatsoever to what i actually said. Thanks, Sue! I'm learnin' as i go here, folks. Swingin and surfin on rainbows of change and hope....wheee.......

Synykyl:

You are obviously hopeless, at least so far as you've demonstrated here. Cheers!

You're a class act, AC.

You hold up well in comparison to the man you call an "idiot".

Compare:

Rev. Lowery: one of the lions of the civil rights movement. Right up there with MLK.

AC: Another in the endless line of low-wattage, buttsore, conservative tits surviving on the idealogical fumes wafting out of Rush Limbaugh's anus. Agressively stupid enough to criticize Rev. Lowery for dropping a few lines of rhyme into his benediction, something instantly familiar to black churchgoers, or anyone who does anything other than sit around and think about the ways that the poor, poor white man has it oh so tough.

Fear of a Black Clarinetist.

Doug Watts for the win. Brevity, soul, wit, etc.

So it's a yes on that fear-of-the-black-man thing.

AC needs to gather up his courage (if he has any) and show a little manhood (if he has any left).

Hypothesis, Liberals are Mean: So much class exhibited here. I thought that the BDS and vitriol would stop once Bush left office. Clearly there isn't going to be any "change" there. Alas.
Posted by: john at January 20, 2009 6:20 PM

Conservatives, oozing class: the Rev. Lowery who was babbling incoherently and anachronisticly about not 'lettin the red man ahead, and if its brown flush it down' or something of the sorts? Yeah, that's the one. THAT idiot.

Please john, mike, keep lecturing us on civility. It's important to take note of that the next time an Ann Coulter book comes out or a conservative who knows literally nothing trashes a giant like Rev. Lowery because of a citation he doesn't recognize. It's perfect in its racist stupidity.

A.C., after several instances of "mis-speaking" (i.e., confidently making factually incorrect assertions and getting slapped for it), tries to adopt an emptily patronizing tone, setting all the "facts" stuff to one side. Who says conservatives don't learn?

Meanwhile, John claims victory after failing to get anyone to argue with his claim that Bush failed because he was not a true conservative. "Cheers!" he shouts with glee. Everyone is impressed.

Wow. I mean: Wow. Think about this: people actually think Obama will be a worse president than Bush... Absolutely amazing. To think that people could be totally impervious to reason. Incapable of thought. WTF do they do for food? Order Dominos every day? Or just go out to the curb and eat dogshit off the street? I mean... damn.

"Wow. I mean wow." Well, at least the feeling's mutual, Nick Murray Butler. And Bush was pretty friggin' mediocre, I admit. But this will be like FDR after Hoover. All the same bad ideas, but intensified, magnified, and exponentially larger. (Don't bother scratchin' yer head over it; I'm sure you've been fed an "objective" public school education that Hoover was a right wing small governmenter "who did nothing" like Coolidge and Harding rather than the progressive RINO that he was before the STATE-loving inferno of FDR. History makes no sense when you're obliviously ignorant of it)

And, no, I shamelessly admit, I'd never even HEARD of Rev. Lowery and his "lionistic" crusade before his brilliance and eloquence yesterday. Sue me. Or call for my head. Or whatever. But don't waste your time and your brainwashed little minds accusing me of racism. Tens, dozens, hundreds probably, of courageous patriotic black Americans, or Americans of any "color" have done far more than Lowery (or, for that matter, the messiahfied MLKjr, a man who once incredibly had the dishonest chutzpah to compare Goldwater to Nazis, -that old ironic projection once again as MLK was a STATE-worshipper far greater than Barry's worst nightmare) ever will in securing liberty and freedom for his fellow Americans. Thomas Sowell is one for example, (and he's black! we know how you leftists love to quota-count and identithink!) whose brilliant social science has proved false, among countless other things, the myth that the decade of the 60s advanced black civil rights further forward than the 50s had. But keep clingin' to the myths. How bout Murray Rothbard? (He was a Jew! Though, you lefties don't seem too keen on them anymore... Anymore? What am i sayin'? National Socialists..hello..) By dedicating his life to understanding and explaining how REAL economics and economic action works for his fellow citizens (some of them citizens of "color"!), as opposed to the political crap that Paul Krugman wins major awards for, he did far more than Lowery ever will in securing and expanding liberty in this great country. How many of you great Lowery-worshipping obamabots have even heard of Samuel B. Fuller? (He's not in the leftist-approved STATE textbooks by marxist hacks like howard zinn) SB Fuller was only one of the most successful, determined and courageous entrepreneurs in American history who helped more REAL LIVE BLACK AMERICANS in Obambi's south side chicago and elsewhere improve their lives, more than Lowery (or King, despite his admirable courage) ever did directly, and he was eventually viciously opposed, not just by the STATE, or by white racists, but even by a small # of cowardly FELLOW BLACKS who lied and distorted his life in order to keep on keepin' on the "lionistic" struggle of trying to defeat racism by the game of dividing the country and playing the victocrat sweepstakes.

So, don't cry about your surreal, ignorance-is-BLISS, bizarro world of phony racism to me, where up is down, left is right, and most of all, mediocre whiners are the superheroes in black history while real colorblind racism-fighters like Ward Connerly, Ken Blackwell, and SB Fuller are viciously attacked as "uncle toms" by RACIST PROGRESSIVES. Or don't do it and expect not to get called on it at least, for the lollipop-sucking frigging children that you are with no real historical education of anything.

Excellent, A.C.

Perhaps next you could explain why liberals are nazis while hanging a spoon on your nose and at the same time juggling water bottles.

The funny just never stops.

I give the Brazen Baiter award to ChrisV82, with a special citation for his Reagan riff.

Thank God he's dead, indeed.

A.C.,

But this will be like FDR after Hoover

That's the general idea, yes.

John,

You're either:

A) Too stupid to understand the difference between a logical proof and a hypothesis based on observation and experience

B) A douchebag

or

C) Both A and B

My money is on "C". Cheers yourself.

"I've never been so disgusted by the disrespect for Bush. I'm sure his time in office would have been a great success if only the Democrats in Congress had been more cooperative.

Posted by: Bike M"

We only had a Democratic majority in Congress for 2 of Bush's 8 years. For the other 6, the GOP let him do pretty much anything he wanted, and for that last 2, the Dems were astoundingly spineless in reigning Bush in.

No, you do NOT get to blame Bush's idiocy on the Democrats.

Consumer Unit,

It's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between a wingnut and a wiseguy, but "Bike M" was being sarcastic.

His lead line ("I too supported Obama even though he's a Communist") should have tipped you off ;-)

A.C.: Have you shared your knowledge of the civil rights movement with black people? I'm sure they would be most interested to hear what they've gotten wrong all these years.

Not so fast. Let me introduce you to Lisa Schiffren:

"But, for a white woman to marry a black man in 1958, or 60, there was almost inevitably a connection to explicit Communist politics.... I don't know how Barak Obama's parents met. But the Kincaid article referenced above makes a very convincing case that Obama's family, later, (mid 1970s) in Hawaii, had close relations with a known black Communist intellectual. And, according to what Obama wrote in his first autobiography, the man in question — Frank Marshall Davis — appears to have been Barack's own mentor, and even a father figure. Of course, since the Soviet Union itself no longer exists, it's an open question what it means practically to have been politically mentored by an official Communist. Ideologically, the implications are clearer."

A.C.,

Jeez man! Take a break, and wipe the froth off your mouth and keyboard.