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By Roy Edroso, Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 12:30AM
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Pajamas Media, a consortium of mostly rightbloggers, was founded in 2005. Its "eventual goal," reported National Review at the time, was "to replace the established media sources with a network of what [co-founders Charles Johnson and Roger L. Simon] call 'citizen-journalists.'" They felt good about their chances; after all, said Simon, referring to Johnson, "You're sitting four feet away from the guy who ended Dan Rather's career." (If you don't remember who Dan Rather is, you can read the Wikipedia entry.)

Pajamas Media has retained a hard-on for the "MSM," its fans' preferred acronym for professional media outlets. In November Pajamas correspondent Kenneth Anderson told readers what was wrong with the online operations of the hated MSM flagship, the New York Times. Anderson said the Times facilitated "online cocooning of its smugly elite audience by 'journalists' whose task is not to spend time digging out new, expensive, and quite possibly important facts, but instead to create, care, stroke, tend, and feed little online forums where they interact with readers and create little communities of the like-minded."

Anderson did not seem to realize that his description far more accurately applies to Pajamas Media. While the Times continues to share actual news with its online readers, Pajamas mostly eschews this -- except for adventures like the fanciful "reporting" of Joe the Plumber in Israel -- in favor of citizen opinion journalism via a number of affiliated blogs, who were cut in for a piece of the revenues via the Pajamas network.

Maybe "revenues" isn't the right word, as rumor had it that most of the money was still coming from investors. Nonetheless Pajamas personnel continued to portray themselves as the future, and MSM journalism as a fading relic. One correspondent traced the MSM's decline to Monica Lewinsky, leaving America "convinced they sold their soul to a devil with a blue dress on." Others gallantly offered to replace the MSM in foreign reporting: "PJM reaches millions of people and they sent a video camera to me in Afghanistan."

But as with all things, eventually money talked and bullshit walked. Last week Simon told Pajamas affiliates that "we have decided to wind down the Pajamas Media Blogger and advertising network effective March 31, 2009," and thereafter they would be free to hustle up ads as best they could.

The responses have been instructive and hilarious.

Protein Wisdom's Jeff Goldstein, who reproduced the Simon communique, was bitter. "What this means is that as of April 1, I am officially out of work," he said. "So save going to a pay model, this site will likely have to shut down. Small price to pay for helping PJM pick up an audience and credibility during its 'formative years.'"

(The Blog Herald linked this revelation, saying "some blogs shutting down by the first of April," perhaps unaware that Goldstein has quit the blogosphere before.)

Commenters advised Goldstein not to despair. What about fellow defenestree Ace of Spades -- might not Goldstein join forces with him? "I dropped a note in Ace's comments letting him know we should join forces," said Goldstein. "He ignored it. For a guy who looks like George Lucas after a bout of osteoporosis, he sure is a snob." (Later Goldstein said he was kidding.)

For his part, Ace of Spades lamented the loss of a guaranteed income. "One could figure out one's quarterly payment just by eyeballing one's Sitemeter," he said. "BlogAds paid okay, but there are always those patches where no one really wants to buy ads, making income kind of unpredictable."

That raises a question: if affiliates were paid based on traffic -- which is very unlikely these days -- why would it be harder to make steady money via a service like Blogads? Surely the large market for amateur rightwing opinion would draw dollars no matter who was doing the ad-buying. Pajamas' Simon explained in a response to some of the flak he'd been receiving:

Actually that part of our business has been losing money from the beginning, so the people getting their quarterly checks from PJM were getting a form of stipend from us in the hopes that advertisers would start to cotton to blogs and we could possibly make a profit. Didn't happen. No wonder those people are kicking and screaming now that they are off the dole. [What's their beef? I thought most of them were free marketeer libertarians or something.-ed. Go figure.]
For a moment, there was stunned silence across the internet. You mean they weren't making a fortune off bloggers yelling about Obama?

Then Goldstein's comrade Dan Collins Goldstein* angrily rejoined, "you never once told us that the blog network you kept insisting was the next great thing 'has been losing money from the beginning' --- at least, not to our faces, and certainly not in any way that would suggest that you were carrying us like welfare recipients." If he had, we may assume, Protein Wisdom would have rejected the money its founder now says the site cannot do without, rather than endure the shame of life on welfare.

Rightbloggers who hadn't taken Pajamas' bait celebrated their own superior judgment. "They paid small blogs almost no dough -- while prohibiting us from taking any other advertising," said Atlas Shrugs. "So I left. I thought they missed the boat, lost a golden opportunity to alter the direction of human history." She added that she could have done some "serious ass whuppin" with "20% of what was invested in PJM." Doc Weasel (NSFW) counseled porn and gambling. Dennis the Peasant, an early non-adopter, told his detractors, "Who called it from DAY fucking ONE? Who? I did. And who got it 100% fucking RIGHT? Who? I did. Right? Fuckin' A, Baby!" He then told them to kiss his ass, and gave them the finger.

Tools of Renewal blamed the abandonment of God. "I used to see the PJ fiasco as the result of greed, treachery, foolishness, and dishonesty," he mourned. "These days I see it more as the evidence of a curse. The US is declining very quickly... I believe that when people persist in really stupid behavior, and the stupidity of the behavior is obvious to anyone with a grain of common sense, and the behavior is easily avoided, the behavior probably has a supernatural origin. That explains the mortgage mess. It explains Obamamania. And it explains PJM... The right used to be blessed. Until maybe 2003, our star was rising. Maybe that's because we were more closely attuned to God. Now we think we have to dump God in order to attract voters... But the right was stronger back when religious people had more power. And it will weaken more and more, as we get more desperate and distance ourselves from God."

Instead of God, Simon has placed his hope for Pajamas Media on "a new arena, television." PJTV offers professors and other glamorous figures (including Joe the Plumber!) talking to the camera or one another (we reviewed one of these offerings previously). You may subscribe to these for as little as 15 dollars a month. "Old media seems to be collapsing around us," Simon still believes, "but a healthy democracy requires a healthy press." So consider your subscription price an investment in the future, which still remains ahead of us. Remember, you're just a secure payment away from the guy who ended Dan Rather's career -- or his memory anyway, as he left Pajama Media in 2007 -- and a bunch of guys who lost an election and couldn't make payroll.

*Update: Dan Collins writes to notify us that the Protein Wisdom Update mentioned here is by Goldstein, not him, then asks, "I mean, do you read this stuff, or does what someone actually says matter at all to you?" which we take for a rhetorical question. He also says "It's strange how you and others have decided to characterize this as welfare," which would make us question his reading (if we were prone to that sort of schtick) because, as the article shows, we got this information directly from his social worker, Roger Simon.

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R. Porrofatto says:

Holy shit, you mean Protein Wisdom was Jeffrey's job?
I am freude at their schaden, but let's face it, this was sub-prime web real estate all along, and investors had to be either wingnut welfare angels or complete idiots, or do I repeat myself? That they think downsizing their product offering to bloggingdregs videos of the even-more-boring-on-camera-than-in-print Dr. Helen et al will be just the thing to attract rubes and riches is very, very funny.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 8:51AM
Dan Collins says:

Can we request a little bit of accuracy, here, please? The bit that you've cited and attributed to me (and that Pam Spaulding and others have as well) is actually Jeff writing an update to my original post. I've never seen a penny of PJM money. Jeff's reasons for anger have a lot less to do with the cut-off of ad revenue, and a lot more to do with how things were handled and later characterized by Roger Simon.

I mean, do you read this stuff, or does what someone actually says matter at all to you?

It's strange how you and others have decided to characterize this as welfare, seeing as it was all managed under a business contract, but I can see how it might be difficult for some lefties to identify the difference.

It will be interesting to see how you react when HuffPo folds, as I think it is very likely to do.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 8:54AM
Carin says:

would suggest that you were carrying us like welfare recipients." If he had, we may assume, Protein Wisdom would have rejected the money its founder now says the site cannot do without, rather than endure the shame of life on welfare.

If he had, then the writers would have been free to decide if they were comfortable with the situation; to realize that the model wasn't working, and perhaps choose to opt out. But to insist exclusivity, and then throw them to the curb saying they were money losers ... but I suppose you're too vested in your ideology. No, to be fair about it, you wouldn't be able to blast the right.
So, carry on.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 9:51AM
roy edroso says:

Thanks for the correction, DC -- see update.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 9:52AM
Righteous Bubba says:

perhaps unaware that Goldstein has quit the blogosphere before.

Oh yeah. I forgot all about his sissiness.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:24AM
Carin says:

Oh yeah. I forgot all about his sissiness

I say it's a good idea you folks stick with the personal attacks on Goldstein, because you'd have no chance attempting to attack his ideas.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:42AM
wormwood says:

I love their description of the MSM. It's totally the pot callig the kettle black . . . and probably a Muslim, too.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:42AM
Nikki says:

Dennis the Peasant, an early non-adoptor[sic]...

Dennis was much more than an early non-adopter. He was one of the partners Roger screwed over when forming PJM.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:44AM
Dan Collins says:

It might be a bit of a personal questions, but how much welfare do the social workers at VV pay you, Roy? Do you get it in stamps, or carbon credits, or what?

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:46AM
timb says:

Yeah, Carin, Jeff would have a bunch of irons in the fire without Roger's AFDC check: what with his inability to navigate youtube, his inability to generate interest in his wrasslin' ventures/videos, his inability to get published, his inability to work in academia, and his inability to blog for ten minutes without huffing off in a screaming rage.

Yeah, he was a success waiting to happen.

There are only three things he has accomplished: finding a sugar momma, tricking the angry right-wing dolt who is Dan Collins into posting on a site while Goldstein gets paid for it, and convincing a group of barely literate dolts that their obvious faults are really caused by evil minorities, high tax rates, and NPR.

Where will you, Pablo, Sarah Wells, and happyfeet meet on the internet now? Dear Lord, the public IQ just increased by 15 aggregate points and you're complaining your whiny savior was mistreated?

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:57AM
roy edroso says:

...how much welfare do the social workers at VV pay you, Roy? Do you get it in stamps, or carbon credits, or what?

Keep this under your hat, but the Voice sells ads and uses the money to pay us. That's capitalism, comrade, and as much as you and I dislike it, it's the deal we're stuck with. (The Voice also saves money by "crowdsourcing" other editorial functions, so thanks, Nikki, for the proofreading!)

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:02AM
Halloween Jack says:

If PJTV started a reality show featuring its former bloggers bitching about the Obamastration while standing in line for food stamps and government cheese, I'd watch it. Not that I'd pay for it, of course. New Media, beeyotches!

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:03AM
Righteous Bubba says:

I say it's a good idea you folks stick with the personal attacks on Goldstein, because you'd have no chance attempting to attack his ideas.

That Pajamas Media idea being the first example.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:07AM
Carin says:

Timmy widens the net of personal attacks. It's all he's got, poor dear.

Righteous - PMJ wasn't Jeff's "idea."

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:12AM
Righteous Bubba says:

Righteous - PMJ wasn't Jeff's "idea."

Carin: nothing Jeff is interested in is Jeff's idea.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:14AM
timb says:

Yeah, Carin, unlike your passionate defense of Jeff which contained all passion and no facts.

Sorry, my rebuttal contained truth before snark. Next time, so you don't hurt your head, I'll just post the snark.

The difference between your world and reality has always caused you trouble, hasn't it.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:23AM
julia says:

The really painful irony is in the comments of the indignant post about welfare and who is or isn't getting it over at PW, in which betrayed consumer advertising model true-believer Mr. Collins talks about the problems he's having with his browser's adblocking software (hint: it's a preference, dear).

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:35AM
Anonymous says:

Keep this under your hat, but the Voice sells ads and uses the money to pay us. That's capitalism, comrade, and as much as you and I dislike it, it's the deal we're stuck with.

[Exit Dan Collins, tail between legs]

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 12:10PM
24AheadDotCom says:

I was never asked to join in the PJM games for some reason or other. I don't get anywhere near the traffic of Ace, but I'm sure I get more than many others in their network. Here's my take. Oddly enough, those comments about the failures of PJM's bloggers probably apply to our host as well. His idea of fighting the power (man) is writing snark about web nobodies.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 12:25PM
Mrs Tilton says:

24ADC,

His idea of fighting the power (man) is writing snark about web nobodies

Can't be the case; I don't recall Roy writing snark about you. As for Godlstein, who are you calling an "internet nobody"? The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "do you want me to slap your face with my cock?"

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 12:56PM
roy edroso says:

Oddly enough, those comments about the failures of PJM's bloggers probably apply to our host as well. His idea of fighting the power (man) is writing snark about web nobodies.

Fighting the power? Man? We're just tryin' to earn a dollar here, same as everyone. (The way things are going, though, we'll all probably wind up exchanging our rude comments on the soup line.)

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 12:56PM
Trevor J says:

UbiquitousThreadGhost, your "idea of fighting the power" is to troll highly trafficked websites complaining that bloggers never listen to your ideas or ask the questions you want answered. How's that working out for you?

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 1:00PM
ed says:

I was never asked to join in the PJM games for some reason or other.

That must sting. Too awful even for PJM. That's like not making the cut for t-ball.

And by the way, I'm not interested in your take. You couldn't double dawg dare me to click on your un-PJM worthy wingnut site. But keep up the blog-whoring if you wish, it's unintentionally funny at this end.

His idea of fighting the power (man) is writing snark about web nobodies.

Except he gets paid. That's a key difference.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 1:01PM
Mnemosyne says:

I say it's a good idea you folks stick with the personal attacks on Goldstein, because you'd have no chance attempting to attack his ideas.

Goldstein has ideas? Where is he hiding them? They sure aren't showing up on his blog.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 1:11PM
Anonymous says:

"You couldn't double dawg dare me to click on your un-PJM worthy wingnut site."

I went over there. The awful format gave me an instant headache, but I did chuckle over this, the top post as I write:

"The following ad from Pepsi - which ran during the Superbowl/Big Game yesterday - is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. UPDATE: It has come to my attention that this is not a real ad but is simply a satire. It's so easy to get confused these days."

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 1:30PM
Matt T. says:

I forget, is Goldstein the guy who bitched that liberals weren't paying his house payment and, thus, he'd have to go out and get a job to support his wife and kids, or is he the one who responded to a political opponent's argument with a threat to smack said opponent in the face with his (Goldstein's, that is) tallywhacker? Personally, I'm amazed the goober's lasted this long.

Timmy widens the net of personal attacks. It's all he's got, poor dear.

Oh, hush, you big baby, you. I swear, conservatives can support war, torture and greed, yet make fun of them and they wilt like hothouse flowers.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 1:32PM
24AheadDotCom says:

Anonymous' comment does bring up an important issue I frequently worry about: when I post something in a sarcastic fashion, will "liberals" who drop by get confused as Anonymous did? That is, do I have to spell everything out so "liberals" won't get confused? The "UPDATE" was included in the original post; there was no real update, that was part of the joke. A quick look at the ad will show that not even a "liberal" would confuse the video with a real ad.

Also, while I post the occasional funny entry, most of the thousands of entries at my site involve very serious matters and many will tell you things you won't hear from too many others.

For instance, the current second post is an assignment for others. The fourth is news about NY's new senator. The fifth reads between the lines of a government press release, revealing things that others would miss. The sixth completely eviscerates an NYT editorial. And, so on.

You might disagree, but you will learn somthing.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 1:46PM
Mrs Tilton says:

24ADC,

You might disagree, but you will learn somthing

"Thanks", but your "comments" here have already "taught" us "somthing": that life is too short to waste valuable microseconds at the websites of Z-list wingnuts.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 1:52PM
tb says:
Goldstein has ideas? Where is he hiding them? They sure aren't showing up on his blog.

I think maybe the ideas are the unintelligible parts between the posts that go:


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Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 2:11PM
jb says:

Don't forget the "Tucker Carlson's talking bow tie" schtick. Now that was an idea.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 3:21PM
OB-GYN Kenobi says:

I swear, conservatives can support war, torture and greed, yet make fun of them and they wilt like hothouse flowers.

Indeed. Or else they get all huffy and then hit you with their purses.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 4:12PM
ed says:

The "UPDATE" was included in the original post; there was no real update, that was part of the joke.

Ohhhhh, nooowwwww I get it.
Hahahahaha!
Hoohoohoohoohoo!
Hehehehehehehehehehehehe!
Oh. Oh. Oh. Whew.
{wipes tears of laughter from eyes}
Man, that was a good one. Got any more winning gags like that one? Stephen Colbert has nothing on you.

Also, while I post the occasional funny entry, most of the thousands of entries at my site involve very serious matters and many will tell you things you won't hear from too many others.

Come for the funny, stay for the deadly serious. Is Richard Cohen one of your more frequent visitors?

For instance, the current second post is an assignment for others. The fourth is news about NY's new senator. The fifth reads between the lines of a government press release, revealing things that others would miss. The sixth completely eviscerates an NYT editorial. And, so on.

You done yet? Wow was that boring. I'll click on your site exactly never. But thanks again for the unintentional comedy.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 5:03PM
AssForAHeadDotCom says:

I was never asked to join in the PJM games for some reason or other.

Clearly the MexicanGovernment is to blame.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 5:19PM
TRex says:

I say it's a good idea you folks stick with the personal attacks on Goldstein, because you'd have no chance attempting to attack his ideas.

HAHAHAHAAAA!! Oh, that's good. Yeah, lord knows, we'd have to stay up all night to find a way to poke holes in Pasty's hallucinogenic prattling about heuristics and intentionality, punctuated by bouts of him strutting around in his comments threads with his scrawny chest thrust out, going, "Did you call me a PUSSY?! Gimme your address, buddy, cos I'm gonna come kick your ASS!!"

Har! Jeffy's "ideas", indeed.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 5:25PM
Leeds man says:

Since Goldstein has come up again like a curry burp, I will take the opportunity to point to the greatest compliment ever paid to him; an Eliot-inspired spoof by Chris Clarke.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 5:30PM
Big Bad Bald Bastard says:

Hey, I recognize some posters... HI! You know, there's nothing like wingnut tears to make a Schadenfreude Pie taste even better. The salty bitterness helps to counteract the richness of the pie.

Now, this is funny: when I post something in a sarcastic fashion, will "liberals" who drop by get confused as Anonymous did?

d00d, "Liberals" don't drop by, even with your whoring.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 6:05PM
Anonymous says:

(The Voice also saves money by "crowdsourcing" other editorial functions, so thanks, Nikki, for the proofreading!)

You're welcome! It's what we secretaries do.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 7:12PM
24AheadDotCom says:

It's great to see the comments from Liberaldom's best and brightest above. Meanwhile, if Roy Edroso would like to do something more important, maybe he can find out exactly what Gillibrand's position on this topic is, since no one returned my call. I even provided a phone number to make it easier.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 8:41PM
Righteous Bubba says:

It's great to see the comments from Liberaldom's best and brightest above.

I am SO GRATEFUL!!!

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 9:15PM
ChrisV82 says:

I'm not sure writers go into business to become rich, at least if they are true literary auters, but the way the Voice is going (cancelling their cartoon/comic section), Roy might have to go back to his old job of selling atheism and abortions to school children.

"What this means is that as of April 1, I am officially out of work

Welcome to America, asshole.

I believe that when people persist in really stupid behavior, and the stupidity of the behavior is obvious to anyone with a grain of common sense, and the behavior is easily avoided, the behavior probably has a supernatural origin.

Or a conservative origin.

The right used to be blessed. Until maybe 2003, our star was rising. Maybe that's because we were more closely attuned to God.

Jesus Christ.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 9:18PM
JohnnyRussia says:

Ah, PJ Media! How will we possibly survive without ya? Without your "funding" of the fringe, where will we get our daily dose of (unintentional) humor?

http://jackrabbitcafe.blogspot.com/2009/02/from-village-voice.html

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 9:35PM
J— says:

Please, don't tell me this means they're shutting down the Pub! Not the Pub!

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 9:42PM
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© says:

THAT'LL teach you, RB!

Just imagine the likes of a cur such as yourself dreaming of attempting to attack the IDEAS of Godlstein, Himself!

HAH!
~

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 9:51PM
Simba B says:

Is Dennis the Peasant a wingnut? I thought for some reason he was one of us, if a bit Jesus-General-ish.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:04PM
Kathy says:

"..I was never asked to join in the PJM games for some reason or other"

Maybe your nose is shiny? Would you say it glows?

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:21PM
ed says:

...since no one returned my call. I even provided a phone number to make it easier.

No one returned your call? But "thousands of entries at [your] site involve very serious matters and many will tell you things you won't hear from too many others." Plus you're funny! You were Pajamas Media material even if you weren't invited to join them for some inexplicable reason! Don't they know who you are?

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 10:55PM
Righteous Bubba says:

Maybe your nose is shiny? Would you say it glows?

Christmas is so far away...boo hoo.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:00PM
Sean S. says:

@Carin

No doubt the bloggers at Pajamas got a raw deal; but they weren't naive either. Like many people involved in the various early ways of internet investing madness, they made the basic mistake of believing that you could actually make serious income from nothing more than a handful of banner ad's. They bought into the myth, and to a certain extent, are responsible for their own predicament now. Afterall, they could have very easily kept abreast of the online advertising market, and seeing what was going on with comparable websites, and figured that rough times were ahead.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:11PM
J— says:

Christmas is so far away...boo hoo.

Ah, but April Fools' Day—Pajamas Media's Day of Reckoning—is just around the corner.

Posted On: Monday, Feb. 2 2009 @ 11:22PM
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© says:

Smugly Elite Audience?

Isn't that the hot new right-wing punk rock band?
~

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 12:51AM
Hattie says:

Dennis the Peasant appears to have a problem with women.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 1:07AM
Brian says:

I love the taste of right-wing bloggers' tears. Mmmm....delicious.

This is sweet justice for all the harm they have done America over the past 8 years in particular.

Time to put on the pajamas and head to bed now children. No more alowance from Mommy and Daddy.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 12:06PM
synykyl says:

The idea that the clowns at Pajamas Media were going to replace the "MSM" was always ridiculous. If it wasn't obvious back in 2005, it sure is now. Their investors should start looking for a government bailout.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 12:27PM
former blogger says:

When bloggers talk to each other except for the acne it's like high school just never ended.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 12:51PM
Old Ski Bum says:

I'm enjoying the demise of the NYT as much as you are enjoying the demise of PJM.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 2:09PM
MARIO says:

THESE GUYS oBAMAMANIA, WAS ALL ABOUT GETTING AWAY FROM SMALL MINDED RIGHT WINGERS WHO CALL EVERYONE CRAZY, EVEN THOUGHT THEY ARE REALLY ACTING COMPLETELY INSANE AND DOPED UP JUST THE SAME.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 2:33PM
Mike Licht says:

Did Joe the Plumber kill the Pajamas Media Bloggers Network?

See

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/did-joe-the-plumber-kill-pajamas-media/

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 2:35PM
Noesis says:

Say, can you tell us how Air America is doing again? How's that working for you liberals?

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 3:11PM
Anonymous says:

can you tell us how Air America is doing

They seem to be hanging in there. Besides, I don't recall Air America claiming they were going to replace the mainstream media.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 4:07PM
commie atheist says:

Leeds Man, it appears that you have pissed off Chris Clarke. He's deleted his Goldstein parody. Shame.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 7:17PM
Righteous Bubba says:

Chris Clarke is too mature to want to be known for being mean to a "mediocre and talentless wingnut blogger".

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 8:54PM
Sean Peters says:
Say, can you tell us how Air America is doing again? How's that working for you liberals?

Still on the air, thanks. And still in the selling ads business. Unlike certain other outlets.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 3 2009 @ 11:38PM
Richard Silverstein says:
It will be interesting to see how you react when HuffPo folds, as I think it is very likely to do.
Now why would a media venture valued last year at about $200 million be in any danger of folding? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? In all its history I never heard any valuation of PJM, probably because it had none.

One other important diff. bet. HuffPo and PJM is that HuffPo doesn't pay its bloggers anything. Much as I dislike this, it does keep expenses low & allow the principals to plow revenues back into the product--which is far superior than anything PJM ever produced.

Face it righties, the Zeitgeist is agin' ya. PJM's sleeping the big sleep is but one small indication that the times they are a changin'. And you're all being left behind. Now go cry in your beer or whatever it is you cry over.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 4 2009 @ 12:15AM
Leeds man says:

Leeds Man, it appears that you have pissed off Chris Clarke. He's deleted his Goldstein parody. Shame.

Chris decided he didn't want any more to do with the feces-flinging. I respect that.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 4 2009 @ 3:35PM
Andrew Sansone says:

NY Giants Fans must see! http://tinyurl.com/mvnj5u

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 11 2009 @ 3:25PM

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