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By Candice M. Giove, Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 12:31AM
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Categories: Gay Marriage, In the Streets, Politics, Protest
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Photos by Candice M. Giove.

When State Senator Rev. Ruben Diaz ascended the stage at an anti-gay marriage rally Sunday in front of Governor David A. Paterson's midtown office, he tried to put the fear of the God-fearing flock that stretched for several city blocks into him and his fellow politicians.

They pray and they vote.

The Bronx Democrat's threats resounded on Third Avenue between 40th and 35th streets, where an estimated 20,000 of the Tri-state area's devout decried the move to legalize marriage for all of New York's citizens at a rally sponsored by Radio Vision Cristiana International and the New York Hispanic Clergy Organization.

The state senator hoped that the crowd's numbers provided testimony to his strength to several colleagues sitting on the fence, now that their body will likely vote on the bill, which Governor Paterson proposed in April. The Assembly last week approved the legislation - after four hours of emotional debate - which led to the 89-52 vote.

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Diaz (above) shamed the Hispanic assembly members who voted in favor of the bill. He bellowed their names and the crowd perfunctorily responded with boos.

"They smacked us and don't respect us," Diaz yelled of those who supported or plan to support the bill.

"Tengo cuidado," he later warned.

The speakers, mostly clergymen or religious organization leaders, carried similar messages of condemnation for New York State's politicians.

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Rabbi Yehuda Levin, Union of Orthodox Rabbis and the Rabbinical Alliance of America, joined the Hispanic clergy members in their threats to primary politicians who vote to alter the definition of marriage.

"I want to say to Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver: You're an embarrassment as a Jew," he yelled, following up with a vision of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg presiding over a gay marriage at Silver's synagogue.

Levin also fretted that same sex marriage would open up the floodgates to a more expansive concept when he spoke to this reporter. "When they have the next movement that they want to have multiple wives or the next movement to marry their daughters will the Village Voice support that also or do they draw the line at homosexuals," he asked. "How far will the Village Voice go?"

For the clergy members in attendance, many believed that altering the definition of marriage would impinge on their rights. "Religious freedom does not encroach on the civil rights of people," explained Rev. Daniel Delgado, the New York and New Jersey regional director of the National Hispanic Leadership Conference. "People choose to live how they choose to live and that's their right, but marriage was not instituted by a governor. It was instituted by God."

For the thousands in the crowd that point could not be debated. And as the event started and Bible-clutching attendees flowed from Grand Central Station to pens positioned along Third Avenue, many let a group of counter-protestors at 42nd Street know just how they felt.

"This is the word of God," said one woman as she pressed her Bible close to those supporting gay rights. "We're praying for you," one anti-gay marriage protestor shouted at that crowd. Another man wagged his finger at them.

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Daniel Choi (pictured above), who was discharged this April from the National Guard for being openly gay, came out to support Governor Paterson. "He's a man of character," he said. "He's someone who history is going to remember. He stood up for the right policies and the right thing."

The soldier stood at the edge of the gate and extended his hand to those en route to the anti-gay marriage rally. "Some of us are Christians too and we're capable of love and we could love them back," he said.

Though the counter-protestors numbered few, organizers there expected many more to come out to a rally scheduled later in the evening sponsored by the Empire State Pride Agenda and Broadway Impact, featuring State Senator Tom Duane and City Council Speaker Christine Quinn.

The anti-gay marriage rally lingered for hours and worshippers listened as speakers reiterated over and over that marriage should strictly apply to men and women. And while these are words heard in churches - organizers estimated over 3,000 congregations arrived - Leslie Diaz, the state senator's wife, warned parents to monitor what is being taught in the city's public schools.

"These kids are being taught that two mommies are okay; that two daddies are okay; that they could choose whatever sex they want to have a relationship with is okay," she said. "You must be vigilant and you must be aware. Do not trust the Board of Education."

Bronx Assemblyman Michael Benjamin, who voted against the bill last week, also upheld the sanctity of marriage and instead said he favored civil unions. "We all have love for gay people. This is not about prejudices against people who are gay," he said.

Benjamin said that Governor Paterson's bill would not reflect his colleagues' actions. "I think it would not behoove the governor and his allies to go forward with the vote in the State Senate knowing that it will be resoundingly defeated," he said.

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John says:

I wonder what Senator Rev. Diaz and these 20,000 protestors would be saying if this huge protest was an anti-immigration protest instead of an anti-gay marriage protest. By the way, I'm not anti-immigration, just anti-bigotry!

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 2:19AM
Andrea Freiboden says:

What in the hell is 'gay marriage'? So, two guys who bugger one another are fit for marriage? Can you name a single human being--even a gay--who was brought into this world by a penis ejaculating inside an anus? How dare idiot liberals equate what gays do sexually with what normal couples do. What gays do only leads to anal cancer and sexual organs that smell like feces. What normal people do produces life, even gay life.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 4:45AM
Paula Brooks says:

"marriage was not instituted by a governor. It was instituted by God."

Then why is it you buy the marriage license at the governors courthouse and not God's church?

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 5:05AM
Joann Prinzivalli says:

The leading opponents of marriage equality wrap themselves in a cloak of Christianity, but they're like wolves wrapped in sheep's clothing. Their preachers lie about the bible, and the ignorant flocks do not know any better.

There is a gay marriage in the Bible:

1 Samuel 18:3 - David and King Saul's son Jonathan enter into a marriage covenant:
3 Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul.

1 Samuel 18:20-21: David marries Saul's daughter Michal:
20 And Michal, Saul's daughter, loved David: and they told Saul, and the thing pleased him. 21 And Saul said, I will give him her, that she may be a snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him. Wherefore Saul said to David, Thou shalt this day be my son-in-law a second time.

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is not about people in loving gay relationships. The Men of Sodom (Gen. 19:1-10)are shown to be macho misogynists who hate and fear "strangers" (people who are different). Ths sin of Sodom is not homosexuality, it is demeaning disrespect - to use other men in such a way as to debase them to be "less than women" (remember, the Men of Sodom were misogynists).

The "Reverend" State Senator Ruben Diaz and his followers with their message of heterosexist supremacy, are much more like the Men of Sodom than anyone in a loving gay relationship.

I could go on with all the other verses these people misuse and misinterpret. Their claim to be "Christian" is a sham - they seem to have assimilated "macho" culture into Christianity to create some sort of melange like Santeria.

Even if they are "Christian" in some way, they're not the only ones who can interpret the Bible. In the United States, everyone is supposed to be guaranteed the same freedom of religion. Diaz and his followers, Archbishop Dolan and his followers, Maggie Gallagher and all her ilk, should not be allowed to force their warped and immoral religion on those who believe differently.

In New York, African-American slaves could not get legally married to each other until 1809. Many states forbade mixed-race couples from marrying until 1967.

Until 1848 as to inheritances, and 1860 as to wages, married women and their assets in New York were under the complete control of their husbands. Marriage, for women, was the equivalent of civil death - all of her rights went to her husband because under the English common law, "the two become one, and that one is the husband."

Between 1836 and 1860, Christian preachers of the day railed against the Married Women's Property Acts because they would destroy the sanctity of marriage - the same argument used today by heterosexist supremacists to impose their peculiar religious culture on everyone.

These people are not only un-Christian, they are un-American. We should all have equal rights, equal protection and equal opportunity under the law, regardless of our sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, race, ethnic background, etc.

So why do they want to oppress me?

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 11:07AM
MTB says:

This hypocracy of the Lation community on this issue is astounding. A quick google search to reveal the numbers of Hispanic unwed teen mothers would give you a good indication of their view on the sancity of marriage.

The hispanic population growth to unwed mothers, the increased budgetary demands on the state and federal government for additional funding based on mutliple births to latino unwed mothers, and they are standing there trying to deny gay couples the right to marry, absolutely inexcusable. Let's vote on the use of our tax money, and start putting the hispanic funding for welfare, food stamps, and child care up for a vote, and see what happens to the Latino population.

My partner and I pay more in taxes than a straight couple because we can't be married, are they afraid that if all the gay men and women are treated fairly they won't get the money they want from the system.

I work in health care, and unwed lation mothers have no issue with having multiple births from multiple fathers. Many have only government issued insurance, and I can tell you when asked "Will the father be present" all too often we hear "No, he's in jail." Great indicators of morality and justice, or the sancity of marriage. These ministers should be ashamned of themselves. Take the log out of your own eye first before trying to take the splinter out of someone else's."

Let's cut the hispanic public funded programs to meet the states budget, and we'll see a whole new side to the Hispanic Family Values system.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 12:15PM
Anonymous says:

Gay couples should be subject to the same requirements as straight couples to get a marriage license:
1. Be 18 or older (or have parent consent)
2. Show proof of age and identity
3. Pay fee
4. Get married

There is NO requirement to prove fertility.
There is NO requirement to have a family.
There is NO requirement to have a religion.

The misinformation and unfounded excuses put forth my "some" religious groups are nothing short of shameful and discriminatory.

Equal civil marriage rights is about individual liberties and protections.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:11PM
pomegranate apple says:

You forgot the gender requirement on the license.

bride and groom. one man one woman.

There is no sexual orientation or sexual attraction requirement. Everyone has their choice whether or not they are going to participate.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 2:53AM
hadash says:

1 Corinthians 6:8-10

(8)Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers.

(9)Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders (10)nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 4:40AM
Hadasha says:

Here is proof that homosexuals did try to rape and have sex with the angels of the Lord. but were destroyed for going against God's word. Sodom and Gomorrah represents sin city, perversion, homosexuals.....
1 Corinthians 6:9
9)Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders (10)nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Genesis 19
Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed
1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning."
"No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the square."

3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof."

9 "Get out of our way," they replied. And they said, "This fellow came here as an alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We'll treat you worse than them." They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. 11 Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.

12 The two men said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it."

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 4:59AM
ANGEL says:

Candice M. Giove

I find your article on 20,000 in Midtown Protest Gay Marriage, Paterson, Silver, Village Voice TO BE BIAS AND PRO GAY!!!

I AS A REPORTER FOR 20 YEARS FIND YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS LIKE "THREATS" ARROGANT!AND HOSTEL
Sen,Rev. Ruben Diaz's was not in any way threating anyone nor the people that were protesting SAME SEX MARRIAGES. They were just speaking their rights to be heard, and spoke the truth according to the Word of God. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE OR don't like hearing the truth.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK THE TRUTH STILL REMAINS. YOU CAN'T CHANGE GOD NOR HIS WORDS.
TAKE A COURSE ON JOURNALISM YOU NEED IT.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:10AM
theExpertsOfGodsLawKilledGodsSon says:

Not only does Jesus marry a man, he marries many men...

Revelations 19:7,8
'"Let us be glad and rejoice and give him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his wife has made herself ready." And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.'

Lamb=Jesus
Wife= the Saints

Now, where does Jesus speak out against gays? He doesnt, never once. What he did say though was,

Matthew 23:9
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

How about a constitutional amendment banning calling the Pope- 'holy father'?

Interpreting the bible to make the laws of the land?

Stop using God to persecute Love. Theres enough prejudice in the world already.


Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:11AM
aNGEL says:

ANGEL says:

Candice M. Giove

I find your article on 20,000 in Midtown Protest Gay Marriage, Paterson, Silver, Village Voice TO BE BIAS AND PRO GAY!!!

I AS A REPORTER FOR 20 YEARS FIND YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS LIKE "THREATS" ARROGANT!AND HOSTEL
Sen,Rev. Ruben Diaz's was not in any way threating anyone nor the people that were protesting SAME SEX MARRIAGES. They were just speaking their rights to be heard, and spoke the truth according to the Word of God. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE OR don't like hearing the truth.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK THE TRUTH STILL REMAINS. YOU CAN'T CHANGE GOD NOR HIS WORDS.
TAKE A COURSE ON JOURNALISM YOU NEED IT.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:13AM
Anonymous says:

TO: theExpertsOfGodsLawKilledGodsSon

READ THE BIBLE

JESUS IS GOD IN THE FLESH
AND HE IS THE WORD
JESUS IS THE LAMB AND THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IS HIS BRIDE,
THE SAVED
WHAT DO YOU THINK SAVED MEAN?
WHAT DO YOU THINK HOLINESS MEAN?
IT MEANS WITH OUT SIN
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN, ACCORDING TO GOD!

1 Corinthians 6:8-10

(8)Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers.

(9)Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders (10)nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:21AM
GetAnEducation... says:

Hey Angel,

Maybe you should take a class for basic English.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:22AM
theExpertsOfGodsLawKilledGodsSon says:

Not only does Jesus marry a man, he marries many men...

Revelations 19:7,8
'"Let us be glad and rejoice and give him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his wife has made herself ready." And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.'

Lamb=Jesus
Wife= the Saints

Now, where does Jesus speak out against gays? He doesnt, never once. What he did say though was,

Matthew 23:9
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

How about a constitutional amendment banning calling the Pope- 'holy father'?

Interpreting the bible to make the laws of the land?

Stop using God to persecute Love. Theres enough prejudice in the world already.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:24AM
Anonymous says:

YOU SHOULD TURN TO GOD AND GET THE HOLYGHOST EDUCATION

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:24AM
theExpertsOfGodsLawKilledGodsSon says:

1 Corinthians 13:1-3

"If I speak in the tongues of mortals and of angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give away all my possessions, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing."

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:30AM
Anonymous says:

HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN, ACCORDING TO GOD!


THE PEOPLE OF GOD EXPRESS LOVE TO ALL SINNERS,
JUST AS CHRIST DID BY DYING ON THE CROSS FOR US ALL SO THAT ALL SINNERS MAY BE FORGIVEN IF THEY REPENT OF THEIR WICKED WAYS.
GOD LOVES AL HUMANS BUT HATES
SIN

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:33AM
Anonymous says:

DON'T GET CONFUSED JUST BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS SAID TO YOU, INSTEAD BE SET FREE, IN CHRIST JESUS. CHRISTIANS DO NOT HATE THEY REPRESENT CHRIST WITH LOVE AND COMPASSION. AND YET THEY ARE ALWAYS ACCUSED OF NOT HAVING LOVE JUST BECAUSE THE BRING FORTH THE MESSAGE OF GOD IN ITS TRUTH. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.
FACE THE TRUTH AND COME TO JESUS

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:38AM
theExpertsOfGodsLawKilledGodsSon says:

EATING SHELLFISH IS A SIN, ACCORDING TO GOD!
Leviticus 11:10

Who cares what every religions interpretation of 'sin' is?

The government shouldnt be in the business of enforcing biblical views. It should be in the business of ensuring equality for every citizen before the law....

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:48AM
Al Swearengen says:

Man, this brought the Churchies out with their stupid ALL CAPS shit.

Hey fuckheads, don't like gay marriage? Don't get one.

Otherwise shut the fuck up, no one cares in the least what you or your God thinks.

Posted On: Wednesday, May. 20 2009 @ 11:53AM
LA Barton says:

It is amazing how virulent the attitudes, words and actions become over an issue such as "gay marriage" vs. God- or Jesus- sanctioned "normal" marriage, whatever that is. The supposed "sacred words" from the Holy Books are invoked to justify and buttress the hatred for and demeaning of their fellow human beings who have views and feelings different from their own, as if God spoke these magic words directly to them --"Go and destroy them for they are unfit and imperfect. Ummmm...I do make a few mistakes now and then! Sorry about that. You understand what I'm saying!"

How self-serving this shallow crusade for marriage correctness! One could just as easily and, perhaps, with greater veracity, say that God has never said or wrote any such things to anyone at any time, any where or in any language. What can only be said is that some "men" wrote what they say God said or wrote, where such holy utterances just so happened to serve their purposes of the day and which continually morph into different meanings and relevance in different minds and times.

There are those that see and blindly believe in Moses (the Charleston Heston image) with the Ten Commandments as near proof that these are the words of God written in fire. Never mind that these same "Commandments" are ten of the forty-one Negative Confessions that are written on the walls of pyramids in Egypt. These words were written thousands of years before the Torah and Holy Bible. Perhaps, the ancient theft of history and culture is a far more insidious and egregious "sin" than "gay marriage." Talk about a Pandora's Box!

We so blissfully forget in willing ignorance that these same Holy Books were brought by the New World explorers (or were they really first-wave conquerors?) just before the long knives and bullets that brought real force to the Holy Words. Some choice -believe and comply or die!

Let's get our sanity back and more onto to the really important and germane issues like the weight of the 21st Century depression falling disproportionate again on "minorities" and the gentrification of Black and Hispanic communities in New York City and beyond. Ahhh! We forget, however, that this requires challenging the status quo and fighting those who benefit from it. I dare say the fighting of phantom enemies is far easier and with less downside risk.

What's next? Do we now bring back burning at the stake? How about a Camp Guantanamo for Gays? You'd be surprise who the inmates would be.

Posted On: Wednesday, May. 20 2009 @ 11:55AM
Wolfgang Hink says:

It is not natural for man to like man or woman to woman. It is still not proven they are born this way in the scientific community. Here is the issue.. If there is a God, which is the right way to believe? There is only three religions that believe in ONE Creator and God Judaism, Christianity and Islam. All three say it is a perversion and unnatural to perform Sodomy. It is an Abomination in the Bible. I think Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for this with Fire.

There is nothing healthy with this lifestyle, Homosexuals have the highest Aids cases than anybody else. This is Fact.

Posted On: Sunday, May. 24 2009 @ 6:17PM
Evangelist Diane says:

***The following is addressed to the Gay & Homosexual's*** who have insulted the intelligence of those who have written in the comments above & who participated in the protest... To the super-smart ones who claim their intelligence to be above everyone else's opinions, know this #1. "God chose the foolish, to shame those who believe to be wise in their own opinion"
#2. Yes, it is true that the Hispanic community, has had troubled marriages and great rates on divorce, yes, many are not college graduates and great proffessionals, but guess what, they are wise enough to repent and even wiser to follow & believe in the most high, everlasting, great awesome Father & Creator and... they are smart enough to read and believe in the true WORD of GOD! which brings me -----
to (Point)#3. To that special case, with the story of David & Jonathan, that many twist a brotherly love into a homo-relationship,,, ha ha ha,,,
you are out of scripture and sensibility to the truth, since it does say covenent, yet does not say a marriage covenent, "for he loved him as himself" as we are to love each other! compare it with other scripture!
(Point)#4. Whatever, you want to say about the CHURCH, we are the only entity, that prays, cares and have cried for the souls that the BIBLE, says will be lost! Unlike, (some) Politicians: We do not sell out on a vote or on $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ We speak the TRUTH, even if it hurts us!!!!
#5.Equality, is given for those who produce equality, what Gay couple has ever given BIRTH, to a Human BEING? Every gay marriage, stops two "Generations" from producing; FACT or Fiction??? FACT!!!!
Where will great men & women, come from?
Gay Marriages, stop procreation & generations cease to exist... it is God's proof.... Adam & Eve = produce life!
#6. Should all gay couples, have respect, yes... love, yes... understanding... yes
care... yes.... certain rights... yes...
MARRIAGE,,,,,, Never!!!!
#7. WHY??????? Because GOD SAID: IT IS AN ABOMINATION.... ROM 1:27, 1COR.6:9, GAL.5
AMONG OTHER VERSES....we will all have our day before HIM... Jesus, loves everyone, true but one thing He always did, called sin sin and ugly ugly, even to the Religious FAKES, yet there is still REAL & TRUE believers, we are not perfect or saints, but we refrain from sin & wordly lust and seek after righteousness & fear GOD, unlike those who mock him and have no respect for the church!!!!!!
#8. If Government, should not be involved in the decision of who we marry, as some Politicians claim, then they should not have a say on it either.... But, since they must be the ones to vote: I suggest this, if they are Atheist, fine... forget what the BOOK, says, but if they proclaim to be Believers, they must act, speak and try all they can to PRACTICE, what they believe....
Whenever, one puts politics before God or above God, he will never lead the people in the right direction.... A liscence for gay marriage is like saying, yes, you can and should marry... even if it will kill you and lead you to severe condemnation later...
A true believing Politician, brings God with him everywhere and puts him above all other matters, because that is what the Word calls a WISE MAN, anything else is just a fool, which God, will call a hypocrite on that great day....
(Point)9. Civil rights, have nothing to do with gay marriage, do not compare this with slavery, racism or bigotry, "the shoe does not fit" It is unjust for adulterers, pornograpy viewers, fornicaters, thieves, murderers, drunkards, etc.... to exalt themselves and claim equality, IS IT?, homosexual sin is listed in the same list.... Would you want me to quote scripture? Would you hear the truth of the Word? Would you let God love you and change you? Would you be humble enough to reason?
# 10. God,loves everyone, we have all sin and fallen short. We are called to change our ways to His ways, from our believes and opinions to His Truth. His love is power,
HE SETS US FREE & SHOWS HIS GLORY TO THOSE WHO WALK IN HIS WORD!!!! Lastly, understand this the Church is not hating on you, we speak truth to you, because we care & love you even if you insist on not believing it... May God Help Us All!!!
NOW IT'S SIMPLE ENGLISH: READ WITH YOUR HEART!!!!!!!! NOT WITH YOUR-------
ROMANS 1:27 ***** "EVEN THEIR WOMEN EXCHANGED NATURAL RELATIONS FOR UNNATURAL ONES,THE SAME WAY THE MEN ALSO ABANDONED NATURAL RELATIONS WITH WOMEN AND WERE INFLAMED WITH LUST FOR ONE ANOTHER. MEN COMMITTED INDECENT ACTS WITH OTHER MEN, AND RECEIVED IN THEMSELVES THE DUE PENALTY OF THEIR PERVESION"
1 COR.6:9 ***** "DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT THE WICKED WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD? DO NOT BE DECEIVED: NEITHER THE SEXUALLY INMORAL NOR IDOLATERS NOR ADULTERERS NOR MALE PROSTITUTES NOR HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS NOR THEIVES NOR THE GREEDY NOR DRUNKARDS NOR SLANDERERS NOR SWINDLERS WILL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD"
OPEN YOUR HEART TO JESUSCHRIST, YOUR SAVIOR: "YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH, SHALL SET YOU FREE" JOHN 8:32

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 26 2009 @ 1:41AM
Anonymous says:

For all you people who says its against god I am sorry to tell you God doesn't exist and he never did. You all need to get a life and let people live their lives how they want to. All you people who protest against gay marriage you are the real fags and need to get a life.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 26 2009 @ 3:34PM
John McFarland says:

Jesus Christ, I wish all this Jesus Christ bullshit would go the fuck away already. How the hell can the Latino community criticize another community's values? Nothing for nothing, but no group or person has the right to pass their judgment on anyone else who is exercising their free will, their rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And also, to add to the stupidity of the Latino protest, half of them if not more cannot even speak or write BASIC ENGLISH. Before you all come into this country and try changing and writing legislation that affects hard working Americans, quite possibly like yourselves, learn the LANGUAGE of the CONSTITUTION. All of my family who came here in the early 20th century knew not a word of English, and all had to struggle to learn it. They did. Do the same.

Posted On: Saturday, May. 30 2009 @ 11:24AM
HolierThanThouNOT! says:

From Evangelist Diane "Equality, is given for those who produce equality, what Gay couple has ever given BIRTH, to a Human BEING? Every gay marriage, stops two "Generations" from producing; FACT or Fiction??? FACT!!!!
Where will great men & women, come from?"

Umm, Diane... this is so true because we know that everyone woman can conceive a child LOL. NEWSFLASH: Not every couple that is composed of a man and a woman can conceive children. The elderly, also, cannot conceive children. So, maybe, we should ban all marriage except in the case of those men and women who want and are physically able to carry children. Yeah, that makes sense, right??? You are so profoundly illogical and dumb. Gay people are the ones who take in all the children that you "perfect Christians" don't want. Plenty of gay people have children the same way some heterosexuals are only able to... why is it wrong for gays, but not straights??? And, finally, if Jonathan and David are brothers, not lovers, I am the Easter bunny. Have a good day and stop talking out of your rear.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 13 2009 @ 3:43PM
HolierThanThouNOT! says:

From Evangelist Diane "Equality, is given for those who produce equality, what Gay couple has ever given BIRTH, to a Human BEING? Every gay marriage, stops two "Generations" from producing; FACT or Fiction??? FACT!!!!
Where will great men & women, come from?"

Umm, Diane... this is so true because we know that everyone woman can conceive a child LOL. NEWSFLASH: Not every couple that is composed of a man and a woman can conceive children. The elderly, also, cannot conceive children. So, maybe, we should ban all marriage except in the case of those men and women who want and are physically able to carry children. Yeah, that makes sense, right??? You are so profoundly illogical and dumb. Gay people are the ones who take in all the children that you "perfect Christians" don't want. Plenty of gay people have children the same way some heterosexuals are only able to... why is it wrong for gays, but not straights??? And, finally, if Jonathan and David are brothers, not lovers, I am the Easter bunny. Have a good day and stop talking out of your rear.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 13 2009 @ 3:44PM
StewartIII says:

Traditional Marriage Rallies Ignored by Media
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2009/06/15/traditional-marriage-rallies-ignored-media

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 9:27AM

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