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By Roy Edroso, Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 12:07AM
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On Sunday President Obama spoke at Notre Dame University, where he had been invited to address graduates of the Catholic school. As the President is pro-choice, this raised some controversy among Catholics. And, to paraphrase Jesus, where two or three are gathered to oppose Obama, there also are rightbloggers. Whatever their denomination, the brethren joined with excitable churchmen to denounce the event and to predict catastrophe.

Things didn't work out as they predicted -- in fact the President was warmly received by his audience and loudly defended when he was heckled -- but at least they got to tell the world that they were mortally offended, and that's what counts.

A common theme was that by accepting Notre Dame's invitation, Obama committed a hostile act against both the university and Jesus Christ. "Today, President Obama spoiled graduation ceremonies for a more than de minimis number of University of Notre Dame students and/or their close family members by delivering the commencement speech and accepting an honorary degree," said Power Line's Paul Mirengoff without saying how he arrived at that conclusion. He hoped alumni would in reaction withdraw their support from the university -- "that would strike this non-Catholic, non-alum as an entirely reasonable and proper response."

"Obama's decision to go forward with the speech knowing that it divides the faithful from the lukewarm is the driving of a wedge, plain and simple," said Why Mommy is a Republican, though she didn't seem to have anything against wedges, per se: "Take heart, readers. When the nation is polarized and people are outraged, hearts and minds can and do change." (Should they need help, she pointed readers to "graphic video of an actual abortion procedure.")

Fox News claimed local police and the Secret Service were "preparing for an estimated 20,000 protesters to come to their neighborhood," which heartened the faithful. "Showdown at Notre Dame," cried Michelle Malkin. Though "the White House is pooh-poohing the controversy," she clearly looked forward to fireworks.

L.A. Catholic went schismatic, asking whether "we have two churches existing side by side in this country?... We have one bunch in the Church who love, vote for and abase themselves toward pro-abortion politicians... We have another group in the Church who love preborn babies and their moms." So did Timothy Birdnow: "The Apostle Paul warned that before the coming of Anti-Christ there would be a great apostacy, a falling away from the Church," he rumbled. "Notre Dame's actions illustrate quite plainly that they, and likely many other 'Catholic' institutions in America, have surely succumbed to such apostacy." Notre Dame underclassmen, your course is clear: transfer to Ave Maria, ere the final trump sounds.

Taking things even further was Justified Right, who said "Notre Dame Protests Ought to Be Violent."

We searched his post in vain for signs that Justified Right was kidding. "Abortion is not an academic exercise of constitutional interpretation," he went on. "It is not a cold war. It is a hot war. People are being killed, and Caesar is not only allowing the deaths, he is promoting them." Still he insisted that "it is the personality of social left-wing protesters to be physically violent toward people and destructive toward property during their protests..."

Finally, after reviewing the doctrine of just war, Justified Right decreed "arms will not be used," and that his fellow children in Christ should seize the commencement stage "before The President gets to it, and not yielded until he leaves the campus."

SWAC Girl concurred, pointing readers to a site called Stop Obama at Notre Dame and approving of the stage-grabbing scheme -- adding, "I am not Catholic but have been impressed and touched by the passion of those who are standing up to the University."

Some anticipated near-divine intervention: Fighting Irish Thomas repeated a story "that the Vatican itself is on the verge of stepping in to stop the South Bend sacrilege." So did The Radio Patriot: "Pope Benedict may be 'correcting the abuses at Notre Dame.'"

But the Holy Father wasn't acting fast enough for Reliapundit. "Where's the freakin' Pope?!" he roared. "BENEDICT IS USELESS. AND HE'S KILLING THE RC CHURCH." In comments he added that he, too, was not a Catholic.

Protesters did show up in South Bend -- though not the predicted multitudes -- and some were arrested, which proved that both religious and secular freedom were dead in America.

"I actually found myself crying," said Blue Collar Republican. "Have Catholics so abandoned what they believe to the point that they feel they need to arrest one of their own for standing up for Catholic doctrine?" BCR then added: "If I were Catholic, I would be at Notre Dame on Sunday after watching this."

Whispers in the Loggia was so angry after the arrests "no mention of the controversy surrounding President Obama's appearance at tomorrow's graduation was made during this afternoon's Baccalaureate Mass for the Class of 2009" -- which seems a sensible omission to us, under the circumstances -- that he reproduced a picture of a dismembered fetus.

Southern Baptist Rick Scarborough said he'd received a $1,000 donation to go to Notre Dame and "stand for truth and with courageous men and women, going to jail if called upon." (He was not so called, but talked about weeping when others were.)

Some just got so mad that they could spit, figuratively. "The Prostitutes who Run Notre Dame Abase Themselves to Moloch on Sunday," said Marc Shea.

Obama's speech, as anyone familiar with his style would have expected, was temporizing and MOR, shifting the topic to the terms of discussion of abortion, rather than abortion itself. This tolerance angle got both himself and the event planner out of a jam.

Rightbloggers certainly couldn't have expected the President to be confrontational, but they pretended to be mad that he wasn't.

Hot Air's Allahpundit, while acknowledging that "realistically, this was the only rhetorical move he could have made," sneered that Obama "didn't have the stones to use this as an opportunity to make the case for choice." In case you're wondering where Allahpundit's stones are on abortion, he claimed that "this isn't my issue." But he said nice things about anti-abortion people, who of course are a large part of what's left of the conservative coalition he supports, mainly for the unreasonableness he presumed on their behalf ("I sympathize enough with true-believing pro-lifers to see how insulting the 'agree to disagree' approach must be to the depth of their conviction"). He also criticized the large majority of students who gave vocal support to the President who came to address them as "O-bots."

Sister Toldjah didn't want any of this tolerance crap either. "So, exactly what 'common ground' can be found with someone who doesn't believe that a 'non-viable' infant born alive after an attempted late term abortion should receive medical care..."

Some made do with what few fireworks there were. Gateway Pundit at least enjoyed the brief interruptions of Obama's speech: "Now Obama knows what it feels like to be a Republican." He also lauded that "Notre Dame Alumni confirm $13.9 million in witheld donations." Freedom Eden saw signs and portents in mortarboards marked with pro-life and pro-Obama insignia. "Note that the Obama symbol is upside down," she said. "Appropriate." (And probably predicted in Revelations.)

As befit their contempt for common ground, some rightbloggers filled the after-speech void by picking fights with Little Green Footballs' Charles Johnson. Though a longtime, full-throated rightblogger, Johnson had failed to side with the brethren on the commencement, and for this they threw him (to coin a phrase) under the bus. "He's a lefty, plain and simple, back to his pre-9/11 days just like Andrew Sullivan," said Weasel Zippers. "Dude has seriously become as wacky as the posters at Daily Kos, Crooks and Liars, and Firedoglake," said Stop the ACLU. Reliapundit characterized Johnson's position as "GOD SUCKS. BELIEVERS ARE MORONS," and his redoubt as the "Dickhead Lounge."

And on this unfortunate scene we draw the curtain, expecting that rightbloggers will soon recover themselves and focus on another outrage -- Joe Biden's treasonous revelation of the location of Cheney's secret bunker ("What a dumbass. What happens when Biden needs a secure, undisclosed location?"). As long as there are molehills, there will be rightbloggers to make mountains of them.

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Comments (23)

atheist says:

I'm as partisan and angry as anyone. I'm not opposed to the concept of protesting a president's actions. But at least, I can look at the situation objectively and see it from Obama's point of view.

Obama wants to bring the country together. The abortion debate, as it is currently constituted, pulls the public apart. In addition, Obama has dedicated himself to cleaning up the various messes of the Bush administration, and a polarized public is one of those messes.

So Obama does what he tends to usually do and he gets in the middle of this brawl and tries to defuse it. Whatever your opinion of the debate itself, you have to admit that none of Obama's actions are surprising, once you think about them for a while. And neither are Notre Dame's actions, or the Pope's lack of action on this. None of it is surprising to someone who just looks at it calmly.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:02AM
MikeJ says:

I wonder if any of those people who post to "graphic video of an actual abortion procedure" have ever seen an appendectomy? Just because YOU don't want an appendix growing uncontrollably inside you doesn't mean you have the right to kill it! Look at its DNA! It's human!

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:27AM
OhioOrrin says:

extremsits, left & right, must not be allowed to define this, or any issue.

as usual, the majority center is where practical policies lie.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:48AM
anthony says:

thank you for that insight ohioorrin, now off you go before the three bears return home.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:56AM
Apsaras says:

Furthermore, MikeJ, most of the "graphic abortion" movies and images don't even come from actual abortions, but rather from miscarriages.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 10:01AM
E says:

Has ND ever had a pro death penalty speaker at commencement, or war supporter? Were these same "Catholics" as indignant?

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 11:11AM
OhioOrrin says:

thx anthony.

I read vv 4 the fairy tales.

chiao

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 11:22AM
BillyT says:

Obama clearly cops out when he's asked to come clean about his stand on the issue: "It's above my pay grade," he said. His actions, though, speak louder than his face-saving words. As a state legislator in Illinois, he voted against a law that would have mandated that medical attention be given to babies that survived a fouled-up abortion. In Congress, he voted for partial-birth abortion, the process whereby newborns are essentially killed just after birth.

Have to ask the Catholics, though. Where was the outrage when your priests were fiddling with little boys everywhere and your bishops were covering up this evil?

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 12:43PM
Susan of Texas says:

I want to know why the right isn't protesting vasectomies. That's interfering in God's God-given right to decided who lives and who dies.

What's that? How many children a man decides to have is up to him? Gosh, why didn't we women think of that?

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 12:55PM
g says:

BillyT's comment above is a good illustration of the rhetoric of misinformation that's out there about Mr. Obama's record.

Here's a story about the Illinois State law Obama voted against: http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/aug/20/nation/chi-abortion-obama_20aug20

His vote against it had nothing to do with "withholding medical attention", it was for very narrow legal wording issues, and there was already a law on the books that allowed for such protections.

He voting against a ban on so-called "partial birth abortion" - but only someone who wants to inflame opinion and mislead would call it voting "for" the procedure.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 1:54PM
Dennis Savage says:

I've got a DVD of All That Jazz -- do you think we can get them to outlaw open-heart surgery?

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 3:24PM
Homer says:

The rightbloggers obviously want to see the catholic church back in its prime. Torturing and burning alive those that disagree on minor doctrinary details, setting national policy, priests buggering boys with impunity and collecting what little money the poor have to decorate their churches. You see, if this was the case, Obama could never be President, he would have been burned at the stake by the followers of that loving catholic God who runs his eternal torture chamber as we speak. Happy, happy, joy, joy for demented right wing weirdos. I realize I'm missing some detail here, it's actually three gods as I understand it, but it's really only one and then there are thousands of saints and other entourage, but the gist of the matter is that that christian god is a rather unpleasant person to put it mildly.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 3:34PM
waldo says:

I'm so happy that the wingnuts are frothing over every issue in which the president is achieving spectacularly good results.
I hope their discomfort increases exponentially with each new issue that the president addresses and completes.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:16PM
NYRepublican says:

Obama supports "partial-birth" abortion, which is you deliver a baby except for its head, and then you crush the skull of the baby and remove the rest of the baby. This is fact and readily verifiable.

The problem with the Notre Dame graduation and the media is that the media failed to report how many people actually were present at a silent, non-violent demonstration! (I heard it was 4,000, but I can't find a link in the media, I heard that number from someone who was present)

Anyway, God does not punish us, our sins do. Sin in Greek is amartia, which means missing the mark, so whenever you sin, you fail to do what is right, and abortion is nothing more than a contraception of last resort. Maybe if we didn't encourage women to have sex because it is so-called "safe", we would have less pregnancies and more families. The problem is in the African-American community, not in the limousine liberal or homosexual community (HIV is the problem there).

Anyway, if in their "comprehensive" sexual education classes they told students that 1 in 4 kids gets an STD by 25, and that 1 in 2 people are sexually active, then they would understand that condoms don't decrease the prevalence of STDs! Abstinence does!

Anyway, im not wasting any more time here, evolution is so real, I mean, I left my unused toilet paper on the windowsill and when I came home 50 billion years later ouila there was life! Something from nothing.... dilute the US dollar to spend it - something from nothing!

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:21PM
TR says:

Has ND ever had a pro death penalty speaker at commencement, or war supporter? Were these same "Catholics" as indignant?

President George W. Bush, 2001.

He wasn't pushing the war that the Vatican had denounced yet, but he had signed off on and presided over a record number of executions in Texas.

For all the talk from the Bill Donohues of the world -- and the small small percentage of Catholics he represents -- Bush had done much more personally to offend the Catholic understanding of a culture of life than Obama has. And they didn't give a shit.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:22PM
Jay B. says:

Have to ask the Catholics, though. Where was the outrage when your priests were fiddling with little boys everywhere and your bishops were covering up this evil?

Are you kidding or simply being blindingly obtuse?

Here's a good place to start. Of course many of us became ex-Catholics long before then because of it, and MANY OTHER THINGS we didn't like about the whole thing.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 9:29PM
Matt T. says:

NYRepublican,

That was one of the wackiest screeds I've seen all week, and that includes Andy Breitbart's nonsense about he was a manly man for giving the finger to protest-type folk, even if they were protesting child soldiers. I salute you, sir. The incoherent ending about evolution was just beautiful.

Posted On: Monday, May. 18 2009 @ 10:10PM
Pere says:

"I wonder if any of those people who post to "graphic video of an actual abortion procedure" have ever seen an appendectomy? Just because YOU don't want an appendix growing uncontrollably inside you doesn't mean you have the right to kill it! Look at its DNA! It's human!"

It's not a living human being with DNA unique to 2 parents.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 1:43AM
atheist says:

Actually, your appendix does have DNA unique to 2 parents: your parents.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 5:10AM
Realist says:

"Today, President Obama spoiled graduation ceremonies"

Once again I'm amazed by the ability of rightbloggers to parody themselves. I have to confess I thought Roy was joking at first. Surely no one - and particularly not a lawyer, an educated man - would open an essay with such a ridiculously childish statement.

If I hadn't clicked the link and seen it for myself, I'd have sworn it was something from the Onion.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 7:17AM
Lisa Graas says:

Thanks for the link! ;-)

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 10:55AM
Cyrus says:

Anyway, God does not punish us, our sins do. Sin in Greek is amartia, which means missing the mark, so whenever you sin, you fail to do what is right, and abortion is nothing more than a contraception of last resort.

Hey, that is interesting. Likewise, "sin" in French is pecher, which means fish, so whenever you sin, you're cold-blooded and have trouble breathing on land.

WTF? I'd dismiss this guy as a spoof if his comment was more coherent.

Posted On: Tuesday, May. 19 2009 @ 2:05PM
kmcleod says:

ah well...at least this takes the heat off of Tom Hanks...

Posted On: Wednesday, May. 20 2009 @ 7:25AM

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