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By Roy Edroso, Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 9:48AM
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Categories: Exploring the Right Wing Blogosphere, Politics
wimgnut.jpgThere have been some intelligent criticisms of Obama's Cairo speech to the Islamic world from the right and the left. As followers of our rightblogger columns will expect, though, there have also been some idiotic ones. Here is a quick round-up of the dumbest bits so far.

10.) Andy McCarthy, National Review. As previously noted, when Obama told Muslim leaders to "maintain your power through consent, not coercion," McCarthy suggested the Justice Department's decision to drop its own voter intimidation suit against Black Panthers in Philadelphia shows his hypocrisy. We bet you've already forgotten how Obama seized power by sending his Panther brothers to cut into John McCain's large Philadelphia voter base.

9.) Atlas Shrugs: "America did not vote for a 'Muslim presidency,' which is what this is... Little did America know that Obama's objective would be a conversion of this nation to 'the largest Muslim country in the world.'" And all done without firing a shot, or a single reverse-baptism!

8.) Atlas Shrugs, ibid. "[Obama] stated that 'Muslims have enriched the U.S. and have won Nobel prizes.' They have, in fact, received less than a handful of the international Nobel prizes." She then goes on -- we swear to G-d -- to list all the Muslim and Jewish Nobel Prize winners so we can see how many more Jewish laureates there are. Another Obama lie exposed!

7.) Atlas Shrugs, ibid. "If there is one thing that is perfectly clear, it's that Obama cannot distinguish between good and evil, right and wrong, and this puts us all in grave danger." Please, oh, please, Republicans, give this woman a prime-time speech at the 2012 Convention.

6.) David Frum: Obama says, "I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal." Frum: "Here is an American president intervening in an internal Muslim debate - and not only intervening, but intervening on the more reactionary side!" Agreed: he should have come out against head coverings for women, just as JFK came out against Catholic ladies wearing hats in church. (That's why they shot him, you know.)

5.) Martin Peretz, The New Republic. Shorter version: Being tnr's house reactionary is tiring -- I'll just quote half of David Frum's column.

4.) Jihad Watch: After Obama said "assalaamu alaykum," JW sniffed, "According to Islamic law, a Muslim may only extend this greeting -- Peace be upon you -- to a fellow Muslim... Islamic law is silent about what Muslims must do when naive non-Muslim Islamophilic Presidents offer the greeting to Muslims." And, of course, when the crowd responded to this blasphemy by hacking Obama to death with scimitars, we learned the real truth.

3.) Michelle Malkin. "While Obama basked in shouts of "We love you!," let's not forget how the Arab street really feels. Has always felt:" Here she showed a picture of something in flames, probably because her webmaster has not found a way to embed a gob of spit. Also: "Ed Morrissey has a more positive take and writes: 'I don't hear anything in this speech that Bush didn't say himself.' Er, that's the problem." Enough of these temporizing American Presidents, and on to the New Crusades!

2.) Yid with Lid: When Obama insisted that Muslims recognize Israel's legitimacy, YwL pounced: "Again he doesn't call for the recognition of Israel as a Jewish state." He also didn't call for Israel to be recognized as a state bordering Lebanon in the north, Syria in the northeast, Jordan in the east, and Egypt on the southwest. That means he plans to move it!

1.) The Charlotte Capitalist. On Obama's buttering-up the Muslims on their scientific achievements: "The president's error is in attributing 'Islam' to the accomplishments of the Arab world of a thousand years ago. The president couldn't be more wrong.It was Arabs qua Aristotelians and not Arabs qua Islamists who are responsible for the accomplishments described by the president." Similarly, CC calls on the people of the West to disown the works of Aristotle and all the ancients, since their works precede the Christian era.

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Comments (26)

Charlotte Capitalist says:

I don't think you read my piece. I never said anything about disowning the works of Aristotle. Where is that quote? I never said anything remotely close to what you are saying. My whole piece defends Aristotle.

Furthermore, you provide a quote of mine, but do not explain why it is "stupid". The quote is in fact true. Scientific success in the Arab world one thousand years ago had nothing to do with Islam. It had everything to do with the Greeks, in particular Aristotle.

Please re-read my piece and re-write the section about me.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 12:21PM
roy edroso says:

I never said anything about disowning the works of Aristotle.

It's. a. joke.

Now, please rewrite your comment. In ancient Greek, if you please!

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 12:41PM
Charlotte Capitalist says:

On second thought, don't change a thing. I'm getting a bunch of hits. You're still totally off base, but we'll let the readers make their own judgments.

Charlotte Capitalist

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 1:14PM
Charlotte Capitalist says:

On second thought, don't change a thing. I'm getting a bunch of hits. You're still totally off base, but we'll let the readers make their own judgments.

Charlotte Capitalist

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 1:15PM
Charlotte Capitalist says:

It's a joke? Okay. Whatever. I'll take the hits.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 1:16PM
C. August says:

Roy, it didn't look like a joke. It just looked like you didn't read more of CC's piece than to find a quote that worked for you.

I'm also curious why you brought up the Christian era, because CC's piece sure didn't. That may have been your joke... I'm not sure. Not to speak for him, but (psst! I think he's an atheist!)

The crux of what I got from CC's post was that Obama essentially credited _Islam_ with making the Enlightenment possible. This isn't hyperbole -- just read the transcript of the speech. When in truth, it was ancient Greek thought that was the Enlightenment's foundation, and some Arabs (not the Muslim religion) were responsible for _one_ of the ways Greek thought was transmitted through history.

The truth of Islam's history is that the few Arabian scholars who admired Aristotle were brutally persecuted, just like the Christians persecuted thinkers in their cultures. Ultimately, this is all about faith vs. reason.

How an actual understanding of history could be considered right-wing is beyond me. I think you missed the boat on this one, Roy.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 1:24PM
C. August says:

Roy, it didn't look like a joke. It just looked like you didn't read more of CC's piece than to find a quote that worked for you.

I'm also curious why you brought up the Christian era, because CC's piece sure didn't. That may have been your joke... I'm not sure. Not to speak for him, but (psst! I think he's an atheist!)

The crux of what I got from CC's post was that Obama essentially credited _Islam_ with making the Enlightenment possible. This isn't hyperbole -- just read the transcript of the speech. When in truth, it was ancient Greek thought that was the Enlightenment's foundation, and some Arabs (not the Muslim religion) were responsible for _one_ of the ways Greek thought was transmitted through history.

The truth of Islam's history is that the few Arabian scholars who admired Aristotle were brutally persecuted, just like the Christians persecuted thinkers in their cultures. Ultimately, this is all about faith vs. reason.

How an actual understanding of history could be considered right-wing is beyond me. I think you missed the boat on this one, Roy.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 1:25PM
slackerjax says:

Funny, looks like a jokey bit o' snark to me. Or maybe a snarkey bit o' joke. I get the two confused sometimes...

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 2:05PM
ignatov says:

I spotted the funny right away, Roy. Conservatives have no sense of humor.

Hilarious how Char-Con showed up in a huff with accusations of misattribution, though. Reminds me of the guy that showed up at LG&M denouncing a "shorter" as a mis-quote. He was roundly mocked but stuck around defending himself and ended up coining the meme, "I am aware of all internet traditions."

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 5:23PM
Seerak says:

Attack under cover of humor is a standard Leftist tactic, that few (if any) rightists ever utilize -- so if that's what "not having a sense of humor" means, it's a complement.

The way it works is to put forth something that's out-of-bounds (your term for it would likely be "edgy"), and then retreat behind "I was only kidding" if called on it.

The classic example was James Wolcott's "rooting for hurricanes" comment just a few months before Katrina hit. Boy, did he backpedal for all it was worth after that, to the point of deleting/relocating the original article away from all the links... but it didn't work too well, mainly because the original comment was not funny.

But hey, please keep it up. This sort of thing saves us a lot of words... we need only point.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 5:56PM
ignatov says:

But hey, please keep it up. This sort of thing saves us a lot of words... we need only point.

Do what to the who, now?

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 6:17PM
commie atheist says:

This thread is way too meta for me.

Attack under cover of humor is a standard Leftist tactic, that few (if any) rightists ever utilize -- so if that's what "not having a sense of humor" means, it's a complement.

The way it works is to put forth something that's out-of-bounds (your term for it would likely be "edgy"), and then retreat behind "I was only kidding" if called on it.

Um, I believe that Ann Coulter has built an entire career out of doing just what you describe. Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 5 2009 @ 8:18PM
silus dogood says:

this is indeed better than a three ring circus. obama does more tricks with bu..s..t
than a monkey on a stack of bananas.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 12:51AM
everysandwich says:

So intimidating voters with billy clubs is okay if the contest isn't close where the intimidation takes place? Sorry, but not going forward with that case seems like an example Eric Holder living his accusation that we're "a nation of cowards."

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 8:01AM
The Mad Jewess says:

Roy..so you believe that they said 'dumb' things, eh?

You think, Roy..that it is perfectly OK to have dumped the statue of Churchill off to UK, pretty much meaning; 'We couldn't care less about you anymore UK', and for Saint Obama to just throw our longtime friend, Israel under the bus as well, only to embrace rogue nations that hate our infidel ways?

BTW... "Peace be upon you" lol..

We have to use Political Correctedness now, after all, AMERICA is one of the LARGEST Muslim populations, according to the new Muslim Messiah, Obama.

LOL- come on ROY. Dont do what the GOP did in the last 8 years, you know, that BLIND loyalty?? Come on dude.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 10:32AM
Anonymous says:

keep up the good work roy.


also, wingnuts: when you get angry, make sure you understand why you're being laughed at...

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 12:53PM
Rajesh Dhawan says:

I had read the article by The Charlotte Capitalist and I am completely lost as to where you found him disowning Aristotle? One of his sources is Burgess Laughlin who wrote "The Aristotle Adventure" and he says,"We should be thankful for many pro-Aristotelian Arab philosophers including Averroes".
He also quotes Ayn Rand who was a big admirer of Aristotle.
You really need to do your research properly and please note you have the right to call something dumb or idiotic but you must first get your facts right.

Thank you

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 1:34PM
Rajesh dhawan says:

When I said he says,"We should be thankful for many pro-Aristotelian Arab philosophers including Averroes", I meat the blog author and not Mr. Laughlin.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 1:37PM
Edward Cline says:

The Charlotte Capitalist piece was great. Wouldn't change a word. And, by the way, the photo that introduces this section was, I'm certain, lifted from the movie, "Khartoum," with Obama's face tacked over Olivier's. Olivier played the Mahdi against Heston's Gordon.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 2:31PM
Nigel says:

The stupidest thing said about Obama's Cairo speech is this pathetic article, joke is right. The Charlotte Capitalist piece is definitely the most intelligent.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 6 2009 @ 11:04PM
N.C. says:

Oh man, Roy, you're in deep shit now. That guy sent over both his readers!

Posted On: Sunday, Jun. 7 2009 @ 1:49AM
Rebecca Z. says:

Thanks for posting those links! Added CC to my favorites. So after all this VV article serves a good purpose by linking to sites which seem to be more in touch with reality.

Posted On: Sunday, Jun. 7 2009 @ 6:48AM
atheist says:
and for Saint Obama to just throw our longtime friend, Israel under the bus as well

To me, this is always the dumbest part of the US/Israel relationship. Somehow, the US has only two choices: worship every move made by Israel, or throw Israel under the bus.

It is as if the USA had the most neurotic, insecure and high-maintenance girlfreind in the world. A perpetually jealous, perpetually suspicious girlfreind who can only be satisfied with lavish gifts and promises of eternal devotion. I sincerely hope that the USA can put this girlfreind down for a while, even if he can't quit her.

Posted On: Sunday, Jun. 7 2009 @ 1:35PM
Steven I. Weiss says:

Roy -

Recognizing Israel as a Jewish state is actually extremely controversial, and something that isn't done by the Palestinian Authority, for example.

See:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/21/pattern_recognition_why_israels_favorite_rhetorica/?ref=fpd

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 10 2009 @ 11:36AM
silus dogood says:

take a minuate,and google search
theobamadeception.com
watch a few minuates of real reporting,and wake up,and take the pill that will take you into the real world,unless you want to live with your head in the sand,and the matrix is your kind of place.

Posted On: Saturday, Jun. 13 2009 @ 10:55AM
Philadelphia SEO says:

Wow! what an idea ! What a concept ! Beautiful .,, Amazing …

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 5 2010 @ 2:28AM

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