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By Elizabeth Dwoskin, Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 11:30AM
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gunwall.jpgAn East Village boutique owner who last July was shot by his schizophrenic neighbor -- and then accused Craigslist of selling the man the gun -- has lost his court battle with the online service provider.

In a decision to be published tomorrow, Manhattan federal court judge Richard Berman wrote that Craigslist wasn't at fault for the gun purchase because it was not the publisher of the ad. Publishers of "third party content" are immune from prosecution under the Communications Decency Act of 1996.

Boutique owner Charles Gibson's complaint claimed Craigslist "is either unable or unwilling to allocate the necessary resources to monitor, police, maintain and properly supervise the goods and services" sold on its site. Gibson was shot six times, and sued Craigslist for $10 million dollars.

Of course, the real question in this case is this: how a schizophrenic man from New York was able to qualify for a permit to purchase a gun in the first place? This seems to fly in the face of New York's strict gun laws and Mayor Mike Bloomberg's efforts to prosecute out-of-state gun dealers for selling guns that end up getting trafficked to New York.

Even if Craigslist isn't legally responsible, clearly founder Craig Newmark takes it to heart when people use his site for the wrong reasons. Not long ago, and amidst public pressure, he attended the funeral of a woman who was murdered after she went to the home of a man who placed a baby-sitting ad on the site.

But there's a big difference between this lawsuit and the "Craigslist Killer" cases. In this case, we think Craigslist should bear some responsibility. A gun is a known lethal product, and a seller of guns must have a license to do so.

While it would be almost ridiculous to expect them to vet the backgrounds of people who put ads up on their site, Craiglist could easily check gun licenses, and it should. Its service is an ideal medium for anyone who might try to bypass gun laws and sell to people like Jesus Ortiz -- the man who shot Charles Gibson last July.

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Greg Collier says:

CL is selective about the type of postings they monitor - clearly gun submissions is not one of them.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 12:59PM
Egg Cheese Bacon says:

"In this case, we think Craigslist should bear some responsibility. A gun is a known lethal product, and a seller of guns must have a license to do so."

That is a slippery slope. Should the owner of the community bulletin board be liable when a used ginsu knife is used to stab someone? Should the city be liable when belladonna from the farmers' market is used to mix a poison?

Of course not, and the reason is that in these cases, the benefits of free commerce outweigh the burden of regulation. The same is likely true of guns: people value guns, and they value a vibrant secondary market. The problem with this post is that it does not acknowledge or investigate this possibility. Instead it offers the knee-jerk reaction: guns are dangerous, must regulate.

The manufacturer is regulated. The seller is regulated. The buyer is regulated. Now the marketplace must be regulated? How many layers of ineffective procedure do we need before we realize that it's the shooters, not the firearms, that are the problem.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 29 2009 @ 12:59PM

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