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By Roy Edroso, Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 12:01AM
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The phrase "politically correct" has been knocking around for decades. Its wikipedia entry shows the continuing argument over its origins. But the term is best known to normal people by its opposite: politically incorrect. This is generally applied to something that you might want to say -- usually a joke -- but which would put you afoul of the oversensitive "PC police" who have a bug up their ass about race, class, gender, etc, and won't tolerate remarks that most of us might find mildly offensive but still funny.

It stands to reason that politically incorrect jokes have become the definition of a guilty pleasure. Thus, when the makers of South Park brought out their offensively funny Team America: World Police, MSNBC issued a list of "The 10 Least Politically Correct Movies Ever" -- films that break taboos to the delight of their audiences. Books and websites of politically incorrect jokes proliferate. And when something gets denounced and pulled off the air because someone's ox was gored, the standard reaction to such political correctness is usually along the lines of, "Doesn't anyone have a friggin' sense of humor anymore?"

Since liberals are thought to be overprotective (linguistically, anyhow) of women and minority groups, they're usually the ones who take the shots for being politically correct. But in the age of the blogosphere, where outrage is the default reaction, taking offense has become a bi-partisan sport, and the right has been making great strides in political correctness, as we saw in their responses to jokes about teabagging, the White House Correspondents Dinner, and President Obama's "Special Olympics" joke on Leno.

Of course, this last was a joke by a politician, and politicians in our PC era are expected to watch their mouths. But last week the right's PC police got after a late-show talk-show host for making a joke, and in such an absurdly overblown way that they may have just won the PC trophy for their team for a long time to come.

It started on Monday night, when on his CBS show David Letterman made a couple of Sarah Palin jokes -- which, as anyone with a television knows, is par for the course in late night TV. At first rightbloggers focused their wrath on Letterman's Top Ten list, trying in an ordinary way to squeeze some outrage out of it ("Did Letterman just call Palin a hooker?").

That probably would have been that, but a few of the brethren swung over to a joke from Letterman's monologue, in which he referred to "one awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game" -- a permanent-campaign appearance with Rudolph Giuliani -- "during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."

This got a laugh and some applause from the studio audience (and some mildly sour, Bristol-defensive comments from rightbloggers -- at first), and Letterman moved on. But citizen journalists began to research the joke, and Jim Treacher found that though "At first I thought 'her daughter' referred to Bristol" -- as presumably the tickled audience thought as well -- "The thing is, that joke isn't about Bristol: Palin brought her 14-year-old daughter Willow to the Yankees game with her."

Now, at this point an ordinary person might think, okay, Letterman must have missed that detail in the day's events. Treacher did, and the audience probably wouldn't have approved the joke so heartily if it were about a kid. Still, living in this PC age as we do, it might be a good idea for Letterman to clarify his joke for the easily offended -- as he did the next day, insisting he did indeed mean Bristol Palin, and even admitting for good measure that his joke was in "poor taste."

We now take leave of what ordinary people might think and descend into rightblogger world, where the reaction went more like this:

First of all, despite the initial confusion some of them experienced, almost no rightbloggers accepted Letterman's version of events. "David Letterman joked about the statutory rape of a 14-year-old girl, simply because her mother is the Republican governotr of Alaska, Sarah Palin," said Don Surber. "If they are the wrong sort of women and teenagers, i.e., 'fly-over,' 'Christianist,' 'wealthy-not-minority' well, then nothing matters but that they be diminished, de-humanized and destroyed for their choices and their sex lives," interpreted The Anchoress, who seems to have missed Letterman's Paris Hilton jokes.

"Letterman: No no no. I meant to call her OTHER daughter a whore," roared RedState. "Yeesh! Guessing maybe you should have checked on who was at the game then, Dave. OR you did and are walking it back." "That excuse would work," Sundries Shack sniffed, "if it weren't for the fact that the daughter who was at the game, thus the one who was the target of the joke, was Willow, not her older sister, you bitter old buffoon." As proof, SS offered a later joke Letterman made about the trouble Palin had "keeping Eliot Spitzer away from her daughter" -- a joke clearly about the horny ex-governor (and applauded by the audience -- say, come no one gives them a hard time?), but which SS took as "a prostitution 'joke' about the same daughter."

Riehl World View seemed at least to accept the possibility that Letterman was talking about what he said he was talking about, and offered a choice: "Poorly researched and thought out inappropriate joke, or is Letterman even more of a pig for using it?" By now the outrage was so high-pitched that even a joke about knocking up the knocked-up daughter was politically incorrect.

Some wondered: "Why Aren't Feminists Upset With David Letterman?" It would indeed be rich to hoist feminists on this petard, but the National Organization of Women did denounce Letterman. Some were pleased with their new comrades but, as longtime readers will have guessed, it wasn't good enough for others: NewsBusters called NOW's denunciation "a fine example of liberal hypocrisy," because NOW also "took the opportunity to bash conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh... Couldn't just chastise a fellow liberal without bringing up a conservative?" Michelle Malkin denounced NOW's "holier-than-thou potshot of its own." So NOW's response, however critical, just wasn't politically correct enough.

Longtime readers will not be surprised to learn that Barack Obama got hauled into it. Ace of Spades asked, "Obama's older daughter is approaching [Willow's] age. Can we expect similar knocked-up jokes for her?" He then answered his own question: "Dan Riehl notes the 'Chelsea Clinton Rule' seems to only apply to Chelsea Clinton. And Obama's kids, I'm certain." "Sarah Palin is an open target from Hollywood, New York and the news media," said RightPundits, "and people can take cheapshots at her without consequences in the Obama era."

Believe it or not, mainstream media conservatives got on this and improved on it. S.E. Cupp actually blamed Obama "because he allowed his surrogates in the media and Hollywood and everyone else on the left to do this dirty talking for him." And Sarah Palin herself, on the Today Show to denounce Letterman, talked about the "double standard that has been applied here" because "Barack Obama said the family's off-limits -- you don't talk about my family. And the candidate who must be obeyed -- everybody adhered to that and left his family."

Obama actually specifically included Palin's family in his remarks about families, but unlike late-night jokes, this thing was getting too big for a fact-check. Emboldened by the coverage their outrage generated, rightbloggers set themselves a more ambitious goal: getting Letterman thrown off the air for his inappropriate joke.

"This is gaining steam and the excuse that this was 'comedy' simply won't fly," said Macsmind. "Either Letterman is suspended or CBS can toss what's left of it's credibility." "Should he be fired for it?" asked Say Anything. "My first impulse, because of the sheer stupid and vulgar nature of what passes for 'comedy' these days and the clear double standards of the media, was to say, yes, he should. Get rid of him. He deserves it." Later he relented and said Letterman should only be "sanctioned or suspended." "CBS SHOULD TAKE LETTERMAN OFF THE AIR OR LETTERMAN SHOULD RESIGN," cried Reliapundit. "OR THEY SHOULD ALL ADMIT THEY'RE BIASED LEFT-WING SCUM."

Other prescribed different punishments. "The Palins Should Sue Letterman," said Bernie Quigly. While Letterman -- "still boyish at 62, which should tell you something right there" -- claimed "he was talking about the 18-year-old Bristol and not the 14-year-old Willow... It still publicly injures and shames a child who is only 18."

"Angry fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles and grandparents of young girls are putting pressure on the sponsors, the network and their local CBS stations," claimed RedState. "It's working."

It actually seems unlikely, as CBS has just signed Letterman to a contract extension through 2012. But the rightbloggers are still in there pitching, organizing a Fire David Letterman rally for this Tuesday outside the Ed Sullivan Theater. And they have help from a New York Republican assemblyman, who also called for Letterman to be fired.

You might wonder why Palin is feeding this thing. Probably it's because sideshows like this are the best way for her to keep her profile high and her base riled ("Letterman dustup shows Palin still has political star power").

As for the rightbloggers, they got their story promoted, which in their guild rates merit badges all around. And they continue to dream of Letterman's scalp, which would be an even bigger trophy -- up there with that of Dan Rather, their last big kill. Now, you might make a distinction between Rather, who as a newsman had at least has an overt connection to politics, and Letterman, a TV comedian who makes fun of celebrities. But that's because you don't have your PC thinking cap on. Letterman's famous. If they can knock him off the air, they will have created an example for the others. It'll be like Don Imus getting knocked off the air for his comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team -- only this time they'll get the credit. And people will think twice about messing with the rightwing PC police.

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Comments (77)

Ann in Seattle says:

Hey ---- that late night rat, called a mother of 5, a grandmother, and the Gov of a state,a slut on national TV. Her crime? She is tall, beautiful,and dynamic, --- who doesn't look, walk, or talk the way He thinks she should.

The late night rat has no decency. He doesn't deserve the lofty position he now holds.There has to be a position waiting for him in the fast food industry. (aahhh - do you want fries with that??)

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 12:56AM
David's Advocate says:

America has known David Letterman for a lot longer than Sarah Palin. Maybe when she's done scoring some cheap political points, she might want to ask herself whether or not she REALLY would want to be the one responsible for kicking him off the air.

Dave's audience votes, too.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:27AM
Piper Willow says:

Ann in Seattle lied, of course, but we expect nothing less of right-wing morons and Palin-lovers. (One and the same, I know...) Stupid Sarah really draws the losers.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:29AM
Maryanna says:

So what if she's a mother of 5? She needs to keep an eye on those girls of her. And yes, Bristol was knocked up by an athlete, Levi!

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:47AM
Ann in Seattle says:

You idiots don't get it! This is not about politics. Its about common decency. That rat is attacking this countrys most valuable asset, ---- Its girls, its women, its mothers.

I wish I could get close to that RAT. I'd scratch his eyes out!

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:57AM
voice of reason says:

Why is Sarah so upset about the rape innuendo? The bible is very clear that god approves rape.
see Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
There is no disease in the history of mankind that has taken more lives and caused more suffering than organized religion.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 2:18AM
Consumer Unit 5012 says:

"(Letterman is) still boyish at 62, which should tell you something right there"

I don't get it. What's that supposed to tell us?

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:47AM
Realist says:

a child who is only 18

Also known as an "adult" in most jurisdictions.

The idea that these bozos are going to get Letterman kicked off the air is pretty funny.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 7:24AM
Dennis says:

Big fucking deal if he loses his gig. That old prick hasn't been funny in years.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 7:52AM
FMguru says:

A late-night comedian told an unfunny off-color joke about a public figure? Well, knock me over with a feather.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 8:07AM
Susan of Texas says:

It's strange that Sarah Palin is so upset about someone making a joke about her underage daughter but does nothing when someone actually has sex with her underage daughter and the daughter is left with a child. I'd be more upset with him, but absolutely nothing happened. Why is Levi "GQ" Johnson not in jail or married, whichever one is worse?

Why doesn't the right want to protect its virgin daughters??

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 8:07AM
Greg in RI says:

What does A-Rod think about that joke? Has anyone asked him? Is he offended? :-)

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 12:23PM
Max in OH says:

And this differs from the Imus debacle ... how? Amazing double-standards applied here.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 12:31PM
Susan of Texas says:

When even NOW is on your side, claiming double standand is very stupid. Try again.

After all, it's not like the right has been mocking political correctness. Nope. Protesting sexist comments about women isn't like liberals at all.

Between the protests and PC complaints and the appeals to minorities it's like you're admitting the left is right after all.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 12:39PM
lb says:

If Rome burned to fiddles, this is an expletive symphony.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:16PM
Chris Vosburg says:

I first heard the term "politically incorrect" in the sixties, when I overheard my college-age older sister and friends talking about-- wait for it-- shaving their legs.

Letterman's joke is funny, of course, for the following reason only, and I deeply regret having to point this out, by the way.

Sarah Palin's fundamentalist Christian beliefs require that she believe in an "abstinence only" sex education for her children.

As any reasonable person might have expected, the result was something different than what Sarah expected: the pregnancy of teenage daughter Bristol.

Sarah Palin's beliefs remain unchanged by this clear wake-up call, and irony is regarded as humorous by us humans, so Letterman's joke is not about any of Sarah's kids, it is about Sarah herself, who moronically adheres to a course of action which has clearly produced results antithetical to what she claims to desire, and is likely to do so again. And again. And again.

Ba dump bum [laughter]

Poor Willow has much to endure as the daughter of poor stupid Sarah Palin, but Letterman's joke is not about her. Letterman's joke is about the stupid fundamentalism that infuses the thought processes of appallingly crappy parent Sarah.

And if you're wondering why Letterman doen't simply say so, consider this. If Letterman actually said out loud that this is what the joke is about, he would bring down a righteous fury on the network which hasn't been seen since John Lennon offhandedly quipped that the Beatles were more popular than Christ.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:19PM
parsec says:

This is right wing small-ball. They don't have any heavy hitters, the pitching's too good, and the fence is too far away. And they still can't make it to first base.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:19PM
jim says:

Internet Goopers gone PC?

Try this: check & see if ANY of these WATBs were similarly outraged by Senator McCain's infamous (& childishly stupid) rape joke - which he delighted in sharing MANY times.

How very odd that a self-described "pitbull with lipstick" now suddenly needs pearls to clutch & a fainting-couch. Is this perchance the same Sarah Palin who was said to react to Obama defeating Hillary Clinton by exclaiming, "Sambo beat the bitch"? The same one who turned her family into politcal props, & used her daughter as a human shield to deflect boos at a Phillies game?

Yeah, go ahead, Sarah, keep giving David Letterman a hard time - after all, that worked out so well for John McCain.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:22PM
R. Porrofatto says:

We all know that Palin does have an unmarried daughter who was in fact very famously knocked up when she was 17, whose famous teen pregnancy led her to say that abstinence for teens was unrealistic which was enough for her to be named "Teen Abstinence Ambassador," whose once faithful husband-to-be is no longer engaged but his mom the Oxycontin-dealer loves him all the same, etc. ad nauseum. I'm pretty sure this entire ridiculous saga has been in all the papers, and I would think that any late-night comedian for whom this wasn't fodder for tasteless jokes was simply not doing his job.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:25PM
Susan of Texas says:

Playing the victim is another mistake. Palin's not bright enough to understand that a woman who wants to become president shouldn't keep complaining that she's a helpless victim of a late night comedian.

Is anybody actually advising this woman, or is she just as clueless and arrogant as that other right-wing beauty queen Carrie Prejean?

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:29PM
synykyl says:

... You idiots don't get it! This is not about politics. Its about ...

Don't kid yourself. It is most definitely about politics.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:53PM
Tom M says:

Nice work, Roy, the whole imbroglio was another sad attempt to get publicity for the Sarah. Her faux pas with the dinner speaker saga could be covered with this tasteless joke and the delayed reaction.
Letterman remains unwatched in this house, he starts at the same time as Stephen Colbert and right after Jon Stewart, why would I change the channel? I want laughs, I watch a comedian.
Sorry, Dave, you don't qualify.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 2:05PM
Dave says:

Hey Roy, do you feel like a failure that the only writing gig you have is for this lame ass blog?

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 2:12PM
synykyl says:

Roy gets paid to make fun of conservatives. Seems like pretty sweet gig to me ;-)

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 2:25PM
Moi says:

Roy can defend himself, Dave, but this lame ass blog is NOT the only writing gig he has. He has another lame ass blog called alicublog.
And I am just lame ass enough myself that if I could only read one blog a day, it would be his. Try it. If you don't like it, it just means you're stupid. Or something.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 2:30PM
Kate says:

"Wailin' Palin"? "Tighty Rightys"?

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 2:45PM
yoyo says:

Last September, a skit on Saturday Night Live suggested incest in the Palin family. "What about the husband?" asked a mock Times reporter. "You know he's doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It's Alaska!" No outrage. Sarah Palin appeared on the show one month later in late October.

Days after the announcement of Bristol's pregnancy, Conan O'Brien joked, "It's true, John McCain's running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, has revealed that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. Palin said, 'We should never have introduced her to John Edwards.'" Where was the outrage? Was Conan promoting infidelity with an underage girl?

From two different Tonight Shows: "Governor Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. Oh, boy, you thought John Edwards was in trouble before, now he's really done it!" AND..."All the Republicans are heaping praise on Governor Palin. Fred Thompson said, as an actor, he could see them making a movie about Sarah Palin and her family. Didn't they already make that movie? I think it was called 'Knocked Up!'"--Jay Leno

Craig Ferguson's skit of "Larry King vs Levi Johnston" asks about "kinky sex" with the drapes open. Craig Ferguson's honorary Alaska citizenship, granted by Governor Palin wasn't rescinded.

"According to expense reports, Sarah Palin charged the state of Alaska over $21,000 for her children to travel with her on official business. In fairness to Gov. Palin, when she leaves them home alone they get pregnant." --Seth Meyers (SNL). Sarah Palin was in a sketch with Meyers a week earlier.

October 8, 2008, Sarah Palin walked out on the ice with six year old Piper and 13 year old Willow, before the game, Conan O'Brien said, "Saturday night, Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers' hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box."
Oh, yes he did. You get the outrage...but not a peep then. According to the new "logic", O'Brien was advocating for some really sick stuff.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 2:54PM
Zach Vargo says:

I don't why politics have to get involved. Everyone should be angry with that joke made by Letterman. If my daughter was called a whore on national television I would make a huge scene. You don't see anyone making a comment about the Obama children. Even O'Reilly and Hannity repeatedly stated that family, especially children, should be attacked verbally by anybody. And they are some of the biggest opposers of President Obama.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:32PM
Susan of Texas says:

I'm sorry but you'll have to gin up your own fake outrage, we won't do it for you.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:34PM
commie athiest says:

yoyo - you're expecting consistency from people like "Ann in Seattle" and "Max in OH"? People with only one brain cell between them? Dream on.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:41PM
commie atheist says:

Of course, if I could figure out how to spell my name, I'd be really smart.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:42PM
Dave says:

"alicublog"

Oh, I'm sorry Moi. I didn't realize the hack also wrote for that world famous blog of such literary excellence. So please, let me correct myself.....two stupid, lame ass, low paying blogs.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:45PM
Al Swearengen says:

Shut up you dumb fuck rightwing PC assholes.

Signed,
People with a sense of humor

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:54PM
merl says:

and dave is reading this lame ass blog for some strange reason. envy?

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 3:58PM
Lazlo H. says:

Letterman is not calling any Palin girl a whore; rather, he implied that the oldest one is a slut. Getting pregnant out of wedlock is part of the Bristol Palin brand, and referring to that fact is clearly within the bounds of acceptable behavior for a late night TV host, if somewhat obnoxious and tasteless.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 4:15PM
anonymous says:

... I didn't realize the hack also wrote for that world famous blog of such literary excellence ...

There are lots of things you don't realize Dave. For instance, which is your ass, and which is the whole in the ground? FYI, Your ass is the one with your head up it.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 4:32PM
anonymous says:

Oops. That should have been 'hole', not 'whole'. Sorry if that confused you Dave.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 4:40PM
Mustard is Evil says:

Many of you forget, for a right-winger, the only type of politically-incorrect jokes that one is supposed to brush off as "just a joke" needs to be one involving eliminationist rhetoric. You know, like "Tree. Rope. Journalist. Some assembly required." (Oh, my sides are aching.) Or the one about how any troop with two bullets, Pelosi, Reid, Bin Laden... (Hilarious! And just a joke! Get over it!) Or, you know, those craaaaaazy hijinks with those "fraternity pranks" at Abu Gharib. I'm still laughing over those wacky escapades. You liberals just don't get comedy, I guess...

But you know, poking fun at some non-abstinent product of an abstinence-only ideologue- now that's just too much! Sickos. I don't know how you liberals live with yourselves.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 5:38PM
sugarbiscuit says:

Ann in Seattle said on Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 1:57AM :

"You idiots don't get it! This is not about politics. Its about common decency. That rat is attacking this countrys most valuable asset, ---- Its girls, its women, its mothers.

I wish I could get close to that RAT. I'd scratch his eyes out!"

Gee, Ann, would that be the kind of "common decency" that refers to a human being as a "rat" repeatedly?

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 5:45PM
Susan of Texas says:

Cindy Sheehan wasn't considered out of bounds by the right. Rush Limbaugh has been calling women foul names for years. No woman or child is--remember Michelle Malkin's internet stalking of a little boy and his family? She hid in the shrubbery and peeked in the child's windows.

Most of all, the right has been calling unwed mothers sluts for years. They have built careers out of shaming women for having sex outside of marriage. Ross Douthat:

Having your mother kick you out of the house if you get pregnant out of wedlock probably isn't going to improve your life chances, but the fear that your mother might kick you out stands a good chance of deterring you from making a bad decision in the first place. The fact that shame provokes an impulsive response is a feature, not a bug, when you're trying to deter bad behavior that is itself impulsive.

So excuse us for sniggering at Palin's Abstinence Only! knocked up daughter, who is pathetically trying to make a buck by touring the country and telling teenagers the earth-shattering news that sex can lead to babies. We're not impressed, and you're just making us laugh harder at your double standards, hypocrisy and general stupidity.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 6:08PM
roy edroso says:

Dave is certainly welcome here anytime. Don't forget to bookmark, Dave!

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 6:15PM
Mr Wonderful says:

And didja catch Sarah chatting with Matt Lauer?

Sarah--she's "feisty," sez USA Today, from which I cut/pasted the following--cracks, "it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman." What exactly did that mean?

"Take it however you want to take it," said Palin. "Willow, no doubt would want to stay away from David Letterman," and, "Hey maybe he couldn't be trusted because Willow's had enough of this type of comment! Maybe Willow would want to react to him in a way that would catch him off guard!"

All feistily said with that aren't-I-sassy grin. And if what Roy so touchingly refers to as "an ordinary person" were to suggest that, in invoking her daughter in a "joke" context suggesting either consensual sex or Letterman-as-pedophile, Palin is exploiting one of her children AGAIN in public (ie, for political gain), what does she say? "Take it however you want to take it."

This woman would be evil if she weren't so obvious and in over her head. You can't even call it hypocrisy. The public pronouncements aren't consistent enough to establish a baseline for hypocrisy.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 6:16PM
Punditus Maximus says:

You know, I really do get the idea of saying that the joke was lousy. But he's a fricking comedian. He makes a lot of jokes. Some of them are over the line, and he should get some crap about it, and then -- as long as the ratio of over-the-line to okay is reasonable -- we should drop the subject.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 7:04PM
Dave says:

Ann in Seattle says:
"Hey ---- that late night rat, called a mother of 5, a grandmother, and the Gov of a state,a slut on national TV. Her crime? She is tall, beautiful,and dynamic, --- who doesn't look, walk, or talk the way He thinks she should."

I'm confused. So what does Jesus have against Sarah Palin's appearance?

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 7:09PM
synykyl says:

Don't think of Sarah Palin as an obnoxious hypocrite, think of her as a millstone around the Republican Party's neck. We should all be grateful for anything that keeps her in the news.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 7:18PM
Sarge says:

What's the big deal, Obama's daughter being raped would also be hilarious.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 7:32PM
Susan of Texas says:

Sarge there appears to have taken one to the old noggin. Thank you for your service, sir, but your short term memory and/or reading skills seem to have suffered some damage.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 7:51PM
Righteous Bubba says:

Everyone should be angry with that joke made by Letterman.

My angry schedule is pretty full. I'll have to fit this one in between AL ROKER ATTACKED HEIDI PRATT and CARRIE PREJEAN'S FIRING WAS UNJUST!

Also starvation war torture et cetera.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 8:05PM
Susan of Texas says:

So what does Jesus have against Sarah Palin's appearance?

She was wearing a cotton-polyester blend.

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 8:25PM
waldo says:

I grew heartily sick of Letterman a loooong time ago, as he endlessly smeared the Clintons with his 'dirty sex' jokes about Monica. I haven't found him funny in any way for ages and his 'trained seal' audiences who cheer raucously every time he opens his mouth are worse than canned laughter. I'm glad he's getting his arse kicked for his stupid joke about the Palin family.

That said, Sarah the patsy Judas goat is a far lower form of hypocrite than Letterman. A political whore of sweeping dimensions, she exposed and utilised her daughter's pregnancy as a tool in her election bid while preaching family values. Her political animality is further illustrated by her daughter's lack of training in ethical behaviour when it came to her sexual adventures and especially now that she (Bristol) promotes abstinence after having denounced it's promotion as useless.
The Wasilla hillbillys are the Ted Haggard of politics. Anyone opposed to them is a Godless murder-lover but they can do and say anything they like, all-the- while regurgitating pious banality for the suckers.


Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 8:55PM
Ann from Seattle says:

Attention LIBERAL DEVIATES !!(but i repeat myself) Word is out that your HERO, the RAT,is out on his ASS...

I'd like to stay and chat, but I must go and take a OBAMA and wipe my BARACK .. HA

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 11:50PM
commie atheist says:

You know what's really funny? Sarge getting fucked up the ass by a private. Hahahahaha!

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 12:19AM
Jim Treacher says:

Thanks for the mention! I'm sure you made some very good points (kinda long; didn't read), and I appreciate the effort.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 12:20AM
commie atheist says:

Mother, may I bitchslap Treacher?

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 12:20AM
Julia Grey says:

Word is out that your HERO, the RAT,is out on his ASS...

Dream on, sister.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 12:45AM
Brian X says:

Maybe I'm missing something, but wasn't Letterman's comment not so much "Bristol/Willow is a slut" as "Sarah pimps her daughters"? Whichever daughter he intended didn't matter -- she was a MacGuffin for the punchline.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 12:47AM
Douglas Watts says:

So the right gets offended because Letterman made a joke about Palin's knocked up daughter getting ... knocked up.

And let me see ... the intended reference of the joke is an 18 year old woman. According to the right, if you are 18 you are an adult, in the sense that you can be sentenced to death in a gas chamber, sent to war to die or, if you are a brown skinned furriner, you can be tortured to death in a U.S. gulag in Romania. The right believes all of this stuff is okey dokey for an 18 year old.

But if Letterman makes a joke about a knocked up 18 year old getting knocked up, she's just a child.

American exceptionalism. Gotta love it.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 2:21AM
Barbara says:

Hoist WITH petard not ON. If you insist on using this expression please bother to get it right.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 3:17AM
Anonymous Academic (Making Kids Hate Parents Since 1995) says:

Jim Treacher writes, "Thanks for the mention! I'm sure you made some very good points (kinda long; didn't read), and I appreciate the effort."

Oh, JIm. If you think this blog posting is not worth your time, then you'll never have the time to read the Sadly, No! post entitled, "Hot for Treacher."

Oh, and Jim, weren't you already posting here as Ann from Seattle or was it Jim from OH or whatever names you were trying to fob off as having a little national girth to your victimology?

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 5:47AM
LIBRUL DV8 says:

WERE IN UR PANTS THRILLIN UR PUBES?

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 9:08AM
sugarbiscuit says:

Ann from Seattle said on Monday, Jun. 15 2009 @ 11:50PM :

"Attention LIBERAL DEVIATES !!(but i repeat myself) Word is out that your HERO, the RAT,is out on his ASS...

I'd like to stay and chat, but I must go and take a OBAMA and wipe my BARACK .. HA"


Again, more of that "common decency" that Ann is slavishly committed to expanding throughout our political discourse.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 9:15AM
synykyl says:

Attention LIBERAL DEVIATES !!

Hmm. Are you the same Ann in/from Seattle who said this was not about politics? ;-)

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 3:28PM
Tim Lara says:

I cant believe that he was basically backed into a corner and forced to apologize, not once but twice... Palin's camp took this way too far saying that he was joking about the rape of their youngest daughter... cmon wtf. anyways i have the video fo the original joke up at http://yovia.com/blogs/lgrenville/2009/06/15/fire-david-letterman/

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 5:23PM
Leeds man says:

Nothing to add, so I'll counter pedantry with yet more pedantry

Hoist WITH petard not ON

WITH, ON and BY are all correct. Don't know why, but I find ON more pleasing.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 16 2009 @ 9:06PM
Ariel says:

DAVID LETTERMAN'S HATE, ETC. !

David Letterman's hate is as old as some ancient Hebrew prophets.
Speaking of anti-Semitism, it's Jerry Falwell and other fundy leaders who've gleefully predicted that in the future EVERY nation will be against Israel (an international first?) and that TWO-THIRDS of all Jews will be killed, right?
Wrong! It's the ancient Hebrew prophet Zechariah who predicted all this in the 13th and 14th chapters of his book! The last prophet, Malachi, explains the reason for this future Holocaust that'll outdo even Hitler's by stating that "Judah hath dealt treacherously" and "the Lord will cut off the man that doeth this" and asks "Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother?"
Haven't evangelicals generally been the best friends of Israel and Jewish persons? Then please explain the recent filthy, hate-filled, back-stabbing tirades by David Letterman (and Sandra Bernhard and Kathy Griffin) against a leading evangelical named Sarah Palin, and explain why most Jewish leaders have seemingly condoned Palin's continuing "crucifixion"!
While David, Sandra, and Kathy are tragically turning comedy into tragedy, they are also helping to speed up and fulfill the Final Holocaust a la Zechariah and Malachi, thus helping to make the Bible even more believable!
(For even more stunning information, visit MSN and type in "Separation of Raunch and State" and "Bible Verses Obama Avoids.")

[just spied the above item on the web]

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 12:10AM
Jim Treacher says:

If you think this blog posting is not worth your time, then you'll never have the time to read the Sadly, No! post entitled, "Hot for Treacher."

I skimmed it. It seemed pretty good.

Oh, and Jim, weren't you already posting here as Ann from Seattle or was it Jim from OH or whatever names you were trying to fob off as having a little national girth to your victimology?

If I deny it, that's just further proof, right?

I cant believe that he was basically backed into a corner and forced to apologize, not once but twice...

What did he say the first time that could be considered an apology? Do you have a direct quote?

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 12:21AM
g says:

Which politician two weeks ago bravely said "screw political correctness!"?

Oh, that's right.....Sarah Palin.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 11:54AM
jvill says:

Ann from Seattle says: Attention LIBERAL DEVIATES !!(but i repeat myself) Word is out that your HERO, the RAT,is out on his ASS...

I'd like to stay and chat, but I must go and take a OBAMA and wipe my BARACK .. HA"

OK, so first Ann says this isn't about politics, but then makes it political. Then Letterman is a hero, even though he makes fun of celebrities and politicians of all stripes. And then PC Enforcer Ann from Seattle compares a black man's skin to the color of shit.

Is it my birthday?

Which one of you picked "Self-Mocking Satirical Racist Dipshit" off my wishlist?

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 12:25PM
Frank says:

By the way, Ann from Seattle, it's spelled "deviant."

And do you know what's really deviant? Charging women for their rape kits.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 12:50PM
synykyl says:

(For even more stunning information, visit MSN and type in "Separation of Raunch and State" and "Bible Verses Obama Avoids.")

Yeah. Thanks for the tip.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 1:13PM
ignatov says:

Treacher claims he didn't read Roy's article but for some reason he hangs around chatting in the comments. He's an odd bird.

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 17 2009 @ 1:26PM
Mia Kulper says:
Ann in Seattle says: "---- called a mother of 5, a grandmother, and the Gov of a state,a slut on national TV. Her crime? She is tall, beautiful,and dynamic, ---"
Is Palin a mother of 5 or 4?

Until Palin produces her super secret hospital birth records from when she says she, and not her daughter Bristol, gave birth to "Trig," she invites the continued speculation with her stonewalling.

It certainly wouldn't be her daughter's first illegitimate child born out of wedlock, I think we can all agree.

So why would Palin want to continue to hide those hospital birth certificate records, if they actually exist, Ann?

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 18 2009 @ 5:09PM
Mia Kulper says:
Ann in Seattle says: "---- called a mother of 5, a grandmother, and the Gov of a state,a slut on national TV. Her crime? She is tall, beautiful,and dynamic, ---"
Is Palin a mother of 5 or 4?

Until Palin produces her super secret hospital birth records from when she says she, and not her daughter Bristol, gave birth to "Trig," she invites the continued speculation with her stonewalling.

It certainly wouldn't be her daughter's first illegitimate child born out of wedlock, I think we can all agree.

So why would Palin want to continue to hide those hospital birth certificate records, if they actually exist, Ann?

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 18 2009 @ 5:37PM
Jim Treacher says:

"Treacher claims he didn't read Roy's article but for some reason he hangs around chatting in the comments."

They tend to be much shorter and more clearly written. (No offense, Roy!)

Posted On: Monday, Jun. 22 2009 @ 12:30PM
Joe Smugs says:

Palin is a moronic hypocrite and her family is a brood of maggots. David Letterman has saved America by shaming that harpy into resigning.

Down with the PC police -- from both sides!

Posted On: Saturday, Jul. 4 2009 @ 7:28PM
Calculation says:

Well done with this article its great We live in a society where pizza gets to your house before the police.

Posted On: Sunday, Feb. 21 2010 @ 10:01PM
flac to mp3 converter says:

How many have had their computers crash because of viruses or Trojans loaded when we accidentally arrive at the 'wrong' web site or have had our teenagers do the same thing? How much pornography is available on the Internet? Are these questions that may be addressed by the FCC or Henry Waxman? Absolutely not! There are web sites that broadcast conservative, libertarian or Republican thoughts that need to be eradicated. The fact that people want to hear Rush Limbaugh a great deal more than that idiot Chris Matthews only indicates they've been brainwashed . . . but in the wrong way. Henry Waxman to the rescue! Matthews, Maddow et. al. need to be heard! We'll whisper if need be. We'll seek others with open minds and we'll find each other. Neither Henry Waxman nor any other liberal will stop us.

Posted On: Thursday, Mar. 11 2010 @ 8:30AM

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