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By Roy Edroso, Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 12:00AM
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As you may have heard, some of the town hall meetings held by public officials for debate on Obama's health care plans have become brawls. In St. Petersburg, protesters bellowed until Representative Kathy Castor left the meeting; in St. Louis, a health care reform proponent, Brian Matthews, said he was rushed by police and arrested (he was one of six); a health care reform opponent, Kenneth Gladney, said he was beaten by health care reform proponents. (Gladney is black, of which much has been made by rightbloggers: Lloyd Marcus asks, "As a Black Conservative, Should I Be Afraid?")

The accusation from the left is that talk-show hosts, tea party organizers and other rightwing types have "astroturfed" to get people to destroy the meetings; defenders from the right say that the protesters are not organized operatives but self-motivated citizens angry at Obamacare and besides, the Democrats do it too, enabled by George Soros, unions, and illegal aliens.

Thus the flareups at town halls have become an inkblot in which anyone can see his opponents acting as mobsters intent on stifling free speech and the true will (always consonant with one's own) of the people. Some liberals have raised the specter of fascism, but as we have seen, conservatives have been crying fascist for months, and are very accustomed to its use. We must say, though, that for devoted anti-fascists the rightbloggers seem oddly pleased that these public meetings are devolving into shouting matches and fistfights.

Rightbloggers have not been shy about promoting a confrontational approach to town halls. "I have a tradition of making Catholic Congressman [Tim] Bishop uncomfortable in Town Meetings when it comes to life issues," proudly declared Causa Nostrae Laetitiae. "...He doesn't deserve a 'happy' [Long Island Town Hall] meeting till he stops killing babies, either though abortion or denial of health care." (Bishop stopped holding these meetings after one featured "participants screaming questions at Mr. Bishop, then repeatedly shouting him down when he tried to respond," per the Wall Street Journal.)

The protesters "are forcefully and sometimes boisterously making it clear that the sheeple will be silent no more," said Political Christian. "... many men and women who hold these positions have brought dishonor to the position and themselves by acting to advance a destructive ideology... In these cases, it is perfectly appropriate for the citizens to display their righteous anger at those who have abused the public trust and treasury."

The West Virginia Rebel's Blog approved a report that "Angry protesters shouted down Democrats at public events from Texas to Pennsylvania" and declared, "For the Democrats, this is becoming a wake-up call as more people start voicing their skepticism over Obamacare."

Politicians who tried to lower the temperature were treated with contempt. "So a cowardly Arkansas Democrat thinks he can silence angry Tea Partiers by holding a townhall meeting inside a Children's Hospital, huh?" rhetorically asked The Rhetorican. "He must think he's so clever." The Rhetorican suggested his colleagues use silent protest, then get Representative Vic Snyder later: "And when that townhall is over, just move on to your representative's local office and stage another protest on the street; and this time really let your voices show them how angry you are." (He needn't have bothered: protesters heckled at the hospital anyway.)

When Representative Brad Miller eschewed town halls because, he claimed, he'd received a death threat, rightbloggers made fun of him. "I'm calling Bull sh__ on this claim by a Democrat from North Carolina," said Blue Crab Boulevard; Miller had no town halls scheduled, so "what, exactly, is he canceling?" "This is a good way to blame Conservatives Republicans American citizens for not wanting to see the health system destroyed," said Pirate's Cove. "Brad will presumably spend August quaking in his loafers behind locked doors, counting down the days until he can flee back to D.C., away from his angry constituents," said Confederate Yankee. Undeterred, protesters picketed Miller's office instead; Capitol Police are investigating the death threat.

"So how are citizens to react to this revolutionary power grab? Politely?" asked View from the Right. "Like the subdued, tranquilized, Canadianized guests on the News Hour? No. Like Americans. What's happening is great."

When he heard that "the debate between supporters and opponents of the legislation became so heated that Shelby County Sheriff's deputies and Memphis police officers called for reinforcements," RedState's Robert A. Hahn was elated: "Another Democratic Congressman finds out that the natives are restless."

Looks like Norman Rockwell's image of Freedom of Speech at a town hall has gotten an aggro makeover.

It must be said that a few rightbloggers have suggested at least tactical civility at the town halls ("When we protest, we must make our concerns known, but not drown out elected officials [and their representatives] when they are trying to speak"). This usually gets an uncivil response from their commenters ("Yeah, because being unilaterally civil has worked so well in the past. Given a choice between being the France of this war, or the America, I'll take America," "I know you liberals can't believe it, but people are sick and tired of your bullshit and they're not gonna bend over and bite on a pillow anymore," etc).

As the town brawls became news and Democrats complained, rightbloggers shifted attention to the real enemies of free speech, namely the Democrats. When the White House asked supporters to notify them of anti-reform memes ("If you get an e-mail or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov") -- presumably for an outreach like Obama's earlier FightTheSmears.com, to answer stories that government health care will kill babies and senior citizens and such like -- Michelle Malkin called it the Internet Snitch Brigade, and suggested it would be used to track down the President's enemies. "Conformity is now the new dissent," cried The Two Malcontents. "Obama Unleashes his Goon Squads," said White Civil Rights. "Obama Tells US Citizen Opposition To Shut Up--Or Else," said Salisbury News. "This is Hitlerian, folks, and the same things that were affected by Hitler's brownshirts in 1940s Nazi Germany!"

Inevitably, we're back to Hitler. "The One Word to Describe Obamacare," said Dr. David Janda, "is FASCIST." The Democrats, said directed-by, are "lining up labor union goon squads to show up at town hall meetings to disrupt the attendees. That will inevitably lead to violence, which the Dems will then hang on the unruly Nazi mobs (sic)." (The "sic" was presumably added to avoid confusion as to who the real Nazis are, or will be.) When liberals pulled the same stunt against conservatives, American Thinker declared it "the Town Hall Libel" (comparison assumed intentional -- there's even a quote from Leo Rosten!), and suggested Democrats are the real Nazis, etc.

In this environment, it is understandable that some people have shown up to a town hall with guns. "After seeing many of the videos of union thugs actually assaulting people," explained Blue Collar Republican, "one would have to be a complete idiot to even ask why so many people brought their guns to a town hall meeting in one of the most dangerous cities in the country."

Reliapundit also caught gun fever, but amplified and extended his remarks into the future, for the most entertaining rightblogger remark of the week:

"IF THE DEMOCRATS PASS THIS BILL, THEN THEY WILL LOSE BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE IN 2010 - UNLESS OBAMA AND HIS ACORN AND HIS ACORN THUGS STEAL THE ELECTION. AND IF THE OBAMANISTAS STEAL THE ELECTION - (AS OBAMA PALS AHMADINEJAD DID, AND AS CHAVEZ DID, AND AS ZELAYA WAS TRYING TO DO), THEN YOU WILL SEE IRANIAN-STYLE PROTESTS IN THE STREETS ALL OVER THE USA... REMEMBER: NOT TOO MANY LIBERALS OWN FIREARMS. AND THE US MILITARY WILL NOT FIRE ON AMERICANS... VOTE GOP. BUY AMMO."

Vox populi, folks! In this rightblogger reading, the only way they can be sure the will of the people is being observed is if they win, by any means necessary.

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Comments (79)

Substance McGravitas says:

THE US MILITARY WILL NOT FIRE ON AMERICANS...

You poor deluded hippie.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 12:10AM
commie atheist says:

Well, they will fire on poor, deluded hippies. But Real Americans from Real America? Never.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 1:51AM
Richard Blumenthal says:

Here's another reason for Tim Bishop of NY to fear coming face to face with his constituents. http://shouldirun.com displays screenshots (link is on the left column) of "stimulus" projects in New York's 1st Congressional District that were supposed to create jobs, but the monetary awards are to out of district companies! This is probably true for other districts, too.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 8:56AM
Duncan says:

commie atheist, the only way you can make that work is if you define "Real Americans" as people who don't get shot at. Think of the Bonus Army. If US troops could fire on a crowd of American war veterans and their families, and probably the victims were derided as a bunch of dirty Reds, then anyone can be a target.

I wonder, though, is it only Democratic pols who are being targeted by these protesters? After all, a lot of Republicans also voted for Bush's (plus Obama's) bailout plan.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:48AM
Frank says:

So, is ACORN the real world equivalent of SPECTRE from the early James Bond movies for these people? Also, I propose a moratorium on references to Hitler, at least until people learn how to make logical arguments.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 11:07AM
Nikki says:

Um....Richard Blumenthal? Even though the stimulus money went to companies not based in New York, don't you think those companies will need to hire local help to get the job done?

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 11:12AM
JohnEWilliams says:

The Kenneth Gladney video is the RASHOMON for our times.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 11:20AM
Homer says:

Sending belligerent Republicans over to disrupt things was proven to be a successful strategy in Florida when Bush usurped the Presidency. Republican staffers were flown in from DC to stage angry and loud protests supposedly by Florida residents wishing to stop the recount. They're at it again and judging by the amounts of idiots buying into the charade, they're being successful again. What a bunch of assholes! And what a sorry excuse for a press corps we have.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 11:57AM
TR says:

Anyone else remember when a MoveOn.org internet ad contest had a single submission that likened Bush to Hitler, and the Republicans and the media got their panties into a giant fucking wad over that?

I guess those days are long gone.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 12:01PM
Halloween Jack says:

I'm always a little tickled by people who think that ACORN is some sort of guerrilla-thug army. I want to stop by their headquarters just to see if they're handing out black berets and Uzis instead of clipboards.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 12:08PM
JohnEWilliams says:

Ooooh.... berets!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 12:57PM
Scott says:

"they're not gonna bend over and bite on a pillow anymore,"

mmm I love a good rightwing buttsex metaphor.

in reliapundit's defense it was the national guard that mowed those people down at Kent state, and he obviously has a plan to deal with them... I think.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 1:52PM
coozledad says:

Brad Miller is an NC native, and an astute man who foresaw the mortgage backed securities meltdown. Confederate Yankee is a carpetbagger whose candidate in the last election, Hugh Webster, is currently under investigation for swiping several thousand dollars from his elderly aunt.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 2:16PM
Jay B. says:

Shorter right wing critique of Democrats possibly passing legislation:

We're not going to have Obama shoved down our throats anymore repeatedly, while Nancy Pelosi sports her strap on and mercilessly reams us from behind while we gasp for air in between moments of getting the shaft.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 2:36PM
Scott says:

Cheers!
Always good to see another reader of the Michelle Malkin slash-fiction newsletter.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 3:48PM
Travis says:
THE US MILITARY WILL NOT FIRE ON AMERICANS

Not only is this obviously wrong in case of DFHs, it's also wrong with the type of explosive scenario he wants to create, where the Americans are clearly armed and are part of an enraged army of partisans. The military response to that type of confrontation will be immediate, and will not have anything to do with ideology.

I know soldiers, and if some rioter has a visible gun, the soldier's first concern is his life and those of his buddies -- certainly not whether the gun owner has a cool handle on redstate.com and worships Ayn Rand.

NB: note to admins -- really wish you had a preview button or an edit feature.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:23PM
Jim Treacher says:

Is Gladney really black, though? Sure, he's darker than Michael Jackson, but that doesn't mean he should expect any backup from Al Sharpton.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:23PM
Susan of Texas says:

Why don't you ask him for his birth certificate, Jim?

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:27PM
Jay B. says:

Al Sharpton jokes! Zing! Next stop: the abyss.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:31PM
reliapundit says:

i suggest that if obama steals the next general election that the public should revolt.

do you think we should not revolt if they steal the election?

if not, then why not?

all polls show that a vast majority of americans are very happy with their health insurance (90%) and that a majority dislikes obamacare (55%).

if congress disobeys the will of the people on this issue, they will lose the congress as they lost they house in 1994.

they will deserve what they will get: their asses kicked!

btw: i am a registered dem - have been since 1974.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:32PM
reliapundit says:

YOU WROTE:

In this rightblogger reading, the only way they can be sure the will of the people is being observed is if they win, by any means necessary.

SINCE THE PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY OPPOSE THE 1000 PAGE OBAMACARE FIASCO, AND SINCE THE CITIZENS TURNING UP AT TOWNHALLS HAVE BEEN ATTACKED BY HIRED THUGS AND SEIU GOONS,YOU HAVE IT BASS ACKWARDS:

THE PRO-OBAMACARE FOLKS ARE THE ONES WHO WANT TO WIN AT ANY COST, EVEN THOUGHT THEY ARE THE MINORITY.

WE ANTI-OBAMACARE FOLKS ARE THE MAJORITY.

IN A DEMOCRACY THAT SHOULD COUNT.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:36PM
Susan of Texas says:

Dude, either go with all caps or no caps. You're like a whore who wants to remain a virgin, here.

If people against Obama are the majority, why did you lose the election?

By the way, we assume you'll opt out of Medicare and pay your own medical bills when you're old and sick.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:50PM
Leeds man says:

Somebody did sing Send In The Clowns! Hi Jim. Reliapundit, you'd be so much more convincing if you could find a larger font in flashing red for your big letters. Funny little fellow.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:54PM
roy edroso says:

WE ANTI-OBAMACARE FOLKS ARE THE MAJORITY.

IN A DEMOCRACY THAT SHOULD COUNT.

Your majority status may be confirmed at the next election. We understand your impatience but, in our view, fantasizing a new civil war is a counterproductive way to fill your time.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:58PM
Jay B. says:

btw: i am a registered dem - have been since 1974.

Phew. I thought you were just some moron on the Internet. I didn't know you had credibility.

Can you tell me about the time you silenced, nay, converted, liberals at some dinner party you were at one time? Because that would totally convince me that you are TOTALLY RIGHT.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 4:59PM
Susan of Texas says:

...in our view, fantasizing a new civil war is a counterproductive way to fill your time.

Well, not always.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 5:04PM
RELIAPUNDIT says:

i luv how most libs respond with snide attacks on fonts and ad hominem attacks.

no one on the left likes facts anymore.

least of all obama - who, according to the wash post - LIED about insurance profits.

gee:

i wonder why he lied!?!?

could it be the facts don't help him!?

yes.

i mentioned my party affiliation as a warning: many opposed to obamacare and showing up as angry citizens at townhalls are dems and independents.

this is the left's waterloo.

YAY!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 5:07PM
reliapundit says:

i grew up in the left: a child of card-carrying commies.

i used to hang with founding members of the working families party - socialista all, like obama.

i saw the light: you all can too.

start by taking a respectful stance toward truth and the facts.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 5:10PM
Stephen Hawking says:

I KNOW ONE THING I"LL NEVER SET FOOT IN ENGLAND BECAUSE IF I DO THEY"LL KILL ME FOR SURE. THAT SOCIIALISTA MEDICINE AND ..Whoops, sorry, this keypad's all fucked up.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 5:20PM
Jay B. says:

Oh yeah? Well, I LUUUUVE how right-wing sub-literates assert something without providing links or anything else, as if the very assertion of something proves their case! I wonder why that is? Could it be that, given the difficult-to-discern differences between their ass and their elbow that they merely regurgitate the same stupid cant they heard from some other some guy and pass it off as "fact"?

least of all obama - who, according to the wash post - LIED about insurance profits.?

Ah yes, "record profits" vs. "massive profits". I agree. It's shameful that a President would be so imprecise about the relative massive profitability about those poor, benighted insurance companies. Why United Health Care didn't have record profits, only gigantic first quarter profits ($859 million) at a time when the economy sucks and people don't have health care.

I can only trust, given your straight-shooting nature, that you disapprove of false claims, whether its of the relative amount of money a insurer rightfully takes from you or whether Saddam Hussein was really going to nuke us.

That or you are a completely dishonest fuck.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 5:21PM
Susan of Texas says:

You would think that someone who advocates sticking to the facts would notice that Obama was backed by the ultra-rich elite and is not, in fact, a socialist. But that would take less extremist hysteria and more thinking, so we see the problem.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 5:34PM
Tom M says:

start by taking a respectful stance toward truth and the facts.
Republican congress critters first. Virginia Foxx (NC-R) saying seniors would be put to death by their government. Bachmann, well, that's a special kind of crazy there. The beloved Sarah Palin saying the gov't DEATH PANEL will kill her baby, you know the which one, too, the one with which she would never play politics.

Fact: the US spends at least 40% more for health care than any other OECD country and yet those countries live longer and, for many diseases have better outcomes.
If socialized medicine, which isn't where we're going, kills people, how can those countries have longer life expectancy?
And, no, Bill O'Reilly is wrong, it's not because there are more of us.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 5:41PM
reliapundit says:

obama ran as a centrist

not as a leftie who was gonna force congress to write 1000 page bills they wouldn't even bother to read.

bills which radically alter key parts of our lives p parts most of us like.

that's why independents and modeates are so ANGRY and why the townhalls are filled with ANGRY citizens.

when joe the plumber called it like he saw it (and called obama a socialist), we on the right knew he was correct.

the centrists and moderates thought joe the plumber was wrong, and contiunued to feel that obama was a moderate.

they have buyer's remorse now.

if obamna doesn't tack to the center - (or oif the cinbgress doesn't dump obamacare nd carbon taxes), then the dems will lose their majorities in both houses.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:11PM
reliapundit says:

jay b:

you are stupid dumbass lasy piece fo shit muthfucka.

here's your link, you lazy asshole:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/08/AR2009080802064.html

it shows the evil insurance companies made 2.2% profit!

oh how evil!

when obama said they'd made record prift he LIED. and you sucked his dick.

BTW: i have two degrees from major USA universities. attacking me for being illiterate or dumb is off the mark.

you and your comrades on the left are the stupid dupes.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:18PM
reliapundit says:

And Bob Jones and Jerry Falwell signed my diplomas with their own excrement!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:33PM
Matt T. says:

You know, if you're going to blubber about "ad hominem attacks" you shouldn't make them. And if you're going to brag about having two degrees, I'd think you'd have a better handle on basic grammar and punctuation. Finally, if you're going to use NotJoe The NotPlumber as a source of ideological purity, you should expect to be made fun of, and often at that.

However, I say shine on, you crazy diamond, you.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:40PM
Realist says:

Well, they will fire on poor, deluded hippies. But Real Americans from Real America? Never.

Think not? Better check with Randy Weaver before you put any money on that.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:42PM
Realist says:

I found the juxtaposition of this:

or oif the cinbgress doesn't dump obamacare nd carbon taxes

and this:

i have two degrees from major USA universities. attacking me for being illiterate or dumb is off the mark

to be quite informative.

And while I can't speak for anybody else, I'm certainly not buying the "registered dem . , , since 1974" bullshit.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:49PM
Susan of Texas says:

you and your comrades on the left are the stupid dupes

Obama ran as the Democratic candidate. And the right constantly accused him of being the most liberal senator in Congress. So if you decided that Obama was centrist, that makes you the stupid one.

Humana made a 2% profit in 2008. That 2% turned out to be a profit of $647,150,000--over half a trillion dollars.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:51PM
Jay B. says:

I'm lazy because you don't back up your arguments? Novel.

Here's the Post's nonsensical editorial:

The latest Fortune 500 ranking of most profitable industries has pharmaceuticals third, medical products and equipment fourth, and health insurers down at No. 35. Drugmakers reported a 19.3 percent profit margin; insurers, 2.2 percent.

That's just shitty reasoning -- and it's not even your fault, it's the Post's. The profitability is based on percentages rather than the amount of money made. It doesn't make a good comparison for just how profitable the insurance industry is, because it doesn't take in account the scale of the industry.

Again, UHG made -- as profit -- $859 million last quarter. It's a testament to just how enormous the money involved is that 2.2% profit (or, in the illiterate, "prift") reaches into the tens of billions for the for-profit health care industry.

when obama said they'd made record prift he LIED. and you sucked his dick.

That is both poorly spelled and senseless! You must have graduated from a major USA university! Oh wait:

BTW: i have two degrees from major USA universities. attacking me for being illiterate or dumb is off the mark.

Yeah. Way off.

Face it rp, you've decided to side with a bloated, inefficient, predatory system that costs more and provides less than comparable systems in other developed nations. You've decided to oppose it dishonestly and under the bullshit reasoning that Obama campaigned as a "centrist" which this incremental approach of "public option" clearly is, and it's not even clear he's supporting that.

Moreover, you've decided that SIX months after a one-sided electoral drubbing to start whining about "democracy" and Waterloos after 8 strong years of federal mismanagement and creeping police statism that's put you in the position to oppose it in the first place. In other words, we haven't even started getting the right's shit stains off the sheets and you're already throwing shit at the drapes. In the service of massively profitable and utterly awful business concerns.

But at least you get to misuse and misunderstand the word "fascist", so there's always that, Mr. "TWO" major universities of the USA.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 6:58PM
Greg says:

Reliapundit wrote:
"i suggest that if obama steals the next general election that the public should revolt.

"do you think we should not revolt if they steal the election?"

Fair enough. On a related note, if we discover that reliapundit flings his own feces at Catholic nuns and breaks kneecaps at the VFW, we should demand his prosecution. Why would you have a problem with that?

Hey, just because you haven't done it doesn't mean we can't threaten you in the event you do.

You are being watched, poo-boy.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 7:08PM
Greg says:

Reliapundit wrote:
"i suggest that if obama steals the next general election that the public should revolt.

"do you think we should not revolt if they steal the election?"

Fair enough. On a related note, if we discover that reliapundit flings his own feces at Catholic nuns and breaks kneecaps at the VFW, we should demand his prosecution. Why would you have a problem with that?

Hey, just because you haven't done it doesn't mean we can't threaten you in the event you do.

You are being watched, poo-boy.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 7:10PM
Jim Treacher says:

Why don't you ask him for his birth certificate, Jim?

Well, I might if it were a Constitutional issue. Why do you ask?

Hi Jim.

Hello.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 7:11PM
Jay B. says:

I'm lazy because you don't link to the lame argument you're making? Novel.

I'd say that's rich coming from a graduate of ONE major USA university -- but two? It's like I've died and gone to a hell where morons have not a lick of self-awareness, or, as I like to call it, the Internet! Every day is a treasure.

For instance, did anyone else know that the poor insurance industry ONLY made 2.2% profit (or as the illiterate try and sound it out "prift") last year? Now, that might not sound like much to you or me, but that said percentage, in an economy of scale, actually represents tens of billions of dollars? Again, UHG, made $859 million in ONE quarter last year. Profit. And that profit was made by shafting normal people trying to get treatments.

But yes, Obama is a socialist. Because a democrat, a uselessly 'educated' one at that, said so.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 7:11PM
Jim Treacher says:

Why don't you ask him for his birth certificate, Jim?

Well, I might if it were a Constitutional issue. Why do you ask?

Hi Jim.

Hello.

You would think that someone who advocates sticking to the facts would notice that Obama was backed by the ultra-rich elite and is not, in fact, a socialist.

You would think that somebody with any knowledge of history would know that wealthy people espouse socialism all the time.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 7:16PM
Jackson says:

Reliapundit:

i luv how most libs respond with snide attacks on fonts and ad hominem attacks.

Reliapundit:

you are stupid dumbass lasy piece fo shit muthfucka.

here's your link, you lazy asshole:

When you're done arguing with yourself, idiot, we're all ears.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:03PM
ANNE says:

The voice can screw its self-righteous self! Silence anyone who doesn't want that fucking asshole Obama's Marxist/death care plan! Why don't you all commit mass suicide and rid the world of your filth and evil, and let those of us who still want freedom alone!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:05PM
Dart says:

Obamatons are fucktards, it's just that simple. Obama and his rich fifth-column have raped us all, and now they want to shut us up. Fucktards one and all!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:11PM
roy edroso says:

You would think that somebody with any knowledge of history would know that wealthy people espouse socialism all the time.

Oh we know all about that -- we read Matt Taibbi.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:15PM
Leeds man says:

i luv how most libs respond with snide attacks on fonts and ad hominem attacks.

No, reliapundit. Argumentum ad hominem means "argument against the man", not the whiny toddler with the persecution complex. That would be argumentum ad sphincter.

Jim, you seem off your game, but thanks for playing!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:18PM
Brad says:

ACORN; so many votes and so few living voters. Cheats and liars just like their Furer Obama.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:18PM
Leeds man says:

Anne! Dart! We don't want to silence you! You're comedy gold! See you in the Death Camps!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:22PM
Devon says:

Can any of one remember a time when a president of the United States had his own logo? Having a ruler's logo issued as part of national programs isn't in our history but exists in others that aren't too favorable. But then, the left have always been oppressors.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:29PM
Greg says:

Susan,

"If people against Obama are the majority, why did you lose the election?" Well stupid, the cheating was massive, and rest of the fools who voted for "O" were duped by our state run media.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:33PM
Anne says:

Leeds man, you are more entertaining! You actually think you are a wit! By the way, we have largely been silence, talked over, ridiculed and mariganlized by silly bastards like you! You really are a scream, unfortunate as it is, you are to dumb to take seriously, lol!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:39PM
Leeds man says:

Wow, the loonies are out in force today. Has Obama cut off the antipsychotic medications already? I thought that was going to be after the Enforced Euthanasia/Abortion Initiative.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:42PM
g says:

Wow, Roy, I gotta thank you for writing this column. These right-wingers are comedy gold!

Annie and Dart especially!

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:47PM
JohnEWilliams says:

Hi Jim also!

Jim, I sense my sense of history is not perhaps what it ought to be, given your lecture above about people who don't know their history of "rich people espous[ing] socialism all the time". Really? "All the time?" Like, literally, all the time? Maybe I should get on Ashton Kutcher's Twitter feed or something.

Also, which rich people in history have I missed "espousing socialism all the time?" John Lennon, maybe? (It's okay, he's dead now.)

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:48PM
Scott says:

"Well stupid, the cheating was massive, and rest of the fools who voted for "O" were duped by our state run media"


ha rich. the delusion known as 'conservative exceptionalism' aka 'cognitive dissonance' aka 'LALALA MYFINGERSAREINMYEARSCONSERVATIVESAREINCAPABLEOFSCREWINGUP LALALA'


you fool

1piece of evidence supporting your accusation, please.


let's put it this way, if Obama stole the election then saddam had massive stockpiles of ICBMs.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 9:48PM
Leeds man says:

Anne, if you took me seriously I would think even less of you than I do now. But I am mortified that someone actually turned you into a mariganl. Nobody deserves that.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 10:00PM
Anonymous says:
"Michelle Malkin called it the Internet Snitch Brigade, and suggested it would be used to track down the President's enemies. "Conformity is now the new dissent," cried The Two Malcontents. "Obama Unleashes his Goon Squads," said White Civil Rights. "Obama Tells US Citizen Opposition To Shut Up--Or Else," said Salisbury News. "This is Hitlerian, folks, and the same things that were affected by Hitler's brownshirts in 1940s Nazi Germany!" "

As the inestimable Internet commenter blakno1 once said: "These brownshirts are projecting like the octoplex down at the mall!"

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 10:03PM
Poerba says:

How could Reliapundit have hung in there for not one but TWO degrees surrounded by commie professors? I'm guessing Liberty and Regent.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 10:14PM
waldo says:

This column is like a flashlight in a dirty kitchen...when it goes on there's things scuttling everywhere. But I won't clean up the roaches here.
Thanks for documenting the atrocities Roy.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 10:19PM
SteveB says:

Yes, Obama lied and people died!

Well, not died, really. But they were led to believe the health-insurance industry had "record" profits when, in fact, they merely had "massive" profits.

I don't know how the guy can live with himself.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 11:01PM
Jim Treacher says:

Oh we know all about that -- we read Matt Taibbi.

Ah, you're the one.

Jim, you seem off your game, but thanks for playing!

You're welcome.

Jim, I sense my sense of history is not perhaps what it ought to be, given your lecture above about people who don't know their history of "rich people espous[ing] socialism all the time". Really? "All the time?" Like, literally, all the time?

Okay, I concede that they do need to sleep, and at times are too inebriated to form words.

Just kidding, of course. There's never ever been a wealthy socialist.

Posted On: Monday, Aug. 10 2009 @ 11:07PM
Thomas R. says:

Wow...I haven't been to any of the wild health care town halls, but reading the comments here is almost like being there. All we need is someone yelling...

"KEEP YOUR FILTHY SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!!"

There...spooky isn't it?

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 12:49AM
Anonymous says:

Reliapundit's cat walked on the keyboard, producing:

"i suggest that if obama steals the next general election that the public should revolt.

do you think we should not revolt if they steal the election?

if not, then why not?"

Um.... because you would be committing treason to a degree that NO Liberals did, even in the worst years of the Bush Junta?

Why do you hate America? Do you WANT the Terrorists to win?

America--love it, or LEAVE IT, terr-symps!

(Wow, this sort of macho posturing is actually kind of fun. I can see why so many Conservatives spent the Bush years talking entirely in jingoistic quasifascist slogans.)

For people who claim to idolize toughness, you folks sure can be whiny little babies the instant things stop going your way.

Oh, and what if Obama wins by a clear and honest majority? (Yes, I know. You think this is as likely as a three-sided circle, but bear with me.) Will you refuse to accept the result out of sheer spite?

Why do you hate America?

Oh, yeah. Because it's no longer a wholly-owned subsiduary of BushCo, and you and people like you are such fear-crazed, petty weaklings that you'd rather burn the country to the bedrock than let The OTHER Team run things for a few years.

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 1:50AM
Wingnut Conspiracy Theorist #45957 says:

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Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 4:55AM
Douglas Watts says:

I blame the IslamoSocialistMuslimist old people for getting sick and selfishly destroying the profits and bonuses of our great capitalist leaders, the insurance companies.

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 10:43AM
Specialist G says:

You know, I'm curious about these Death Camps/Death Panels that the wingnuts are always going on about, the one that are going to wipe out half of Bible Spice's family of snowbilly grifters? I can't find anything in the current bill's language. When I asked friends in England and Canada how they run their Death Panels, they denied even having them! Maybe one of our multiple degree holding wingnuts can offer a source for this claim. All in all, I guess it's better to have them throwing childish tantrums in town halls than shooting up Unitarian churches, killing doctors, blowing up Federal buildings, or murdering women in health clubs...

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 11:13AM
dai says:

"If people against Obama are the majority, why did you lose the election?" Well stupid, the cheating was massive, and rest of the fools who voted for "O" were duped by our state run media.

State run media? In 2008, Bush was head of the state - why was his state run media supporting Obama?

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 12:02PM
TR says:

Can we get some of these conservatives a bigger platform to express their views?

Nothing could better sway independents and moderates over to our side than seeing what a bunch of batshit crazy conspiracy theoriests are making up the GOP these days.

Goldwater wept.

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 12:08PM
Frank says:

Crazy Eileen, the woman that screamed "BIRF CERTIFICATE!!!11one!1!" at Mike Castle in Delaware, should go to one of these meetings. It would be good for a laugh.

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 1:36PM
horatius says:

Umm... Wingnuts?? Don't you have a healthcare townhall to mob off to?

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 2:34PM
JohnEWilliams says:

"Just kidding, of course. There's never ever been a wealthy socialist."

Well, now, Jim, that wasn't hardly the point.

But you know that.

Posted On: Tuesday, Aug. 11 2009 @ 4:05PM
ckc (not kc) says:

Like the subdued, tranquilized, Canadianized guests on the News Hour...

...but, but, but... (zzzzzzzzzzzz eh?

Posted On: Thursday, Aug. 13 2009 @ 10:46PM
Jim Treacher says:

"But you know that."

I'd opine on your knowledge as well, if you ever exhibited any.

Posted On: Sunday, Aug. 16 2009 @ 11:03AM
Leeds man says:

I'd opine on your knowledge as well, if you ever exhibited any.

Jim Treacher: Translating Grade Three taunts into Grade Nine English since November, 2008.

I think the back translation of this one is "I'm rubber, you're glue".

Posted On: Sunday, Aug. 16 2009 @ 8:06PM
Steve Johnson says:

You sound like a fucking retard. I hope Obama steals the election for real like George Bush and you're fucking Republicans did in the past 8 years.

What part of "Im George Bush and I fucking distroyed the country and our economy in 8 short years" don't you understand you fucking stupid assed twit.

I'm sick and fucking tired of listening to you fucking "Oh the sky is falling" retarded hillbillys that don't know how to vote nor govern when given the chance.

I hope fucking ACORN shows up at every fucking tea bag event with the SEIU and Teamsters and beats the shit of you fucking tea baggers every chance they get. I think its high time for another civil war and rid the planet of the fucking neanderthal conservative pilgrim motherfuckers once and for all. Just push the south into the fucking ocean and call it a day. You stupid racist slave owning backwards assed pieces of shit.

Posted On: Sunday, Nov. 8 2009 @ 8:57PM

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