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Mayoral Race 2009

12 Points Up in Monday Polls, Bloomberg Wins by 5. Was It All Just a Con?

By Roy Edroso, Tuesday, Nov. 3 2009 @ 11:27PM
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Hang on a second.

Five points?

A week ago Quinnipiac had Bloomberg up 18 points. Yesterday they had him up 12 points.

If the polls were anywhere near right, and the shift in their numbers reflected the rate of Thompson's gain, he should have lost by about 10 points.

What happened?...

Even the stalwart Times admits Bloomberg's "margin was far smaller than expected." Last night Liz Benjamin looked at the numbers and said they were "not decisive. Not at all," and noticed NBC, who counsel we had drunkenly accepted earlier, had withdrawn their early victory projection.

Time magazine calls Bloomberg's victory, long portrayed as an impending landslide on the magnitude of his 2005 58-39 crushing of Freddy Ferrer, a "squeaker."

Did Bloomberg lose a bunch of votes? Our guess is that he never had them to begin with.

On October 22 a Marist poll showed that "likely non-enrolled voters have moved toward Thompson." For one thing, this was a remarkable shift -- a month earlier Marist had seen the unenrolled breaking 65-31 for Bloomberg. On the 22nd they found them going 48-41 for Thompson.

Is that believeable? We didn't catch this at the time -- and we admit, we got played as bad as everyone else -- because we figured if those "voters" weren't enrolled at the time of the survey, which came after the voter registration deadline, their preference hardly mattered. In hindsight, aside from the question of whether their respondents understood what "enrolled" meant, we wonder if Marist or any other polling organization ever talked to certain kinds of people who were equipped with the franchise but might not respond to phone polls, even if they were "conducted in both English and Spanish."

A lot of citizens speak Farsi, Urdu, Creole, Mandarin, Russian, etc. A lot of citizens don't take calls from pollsters, or any strangers, whatever their language.

A lot of citizens are invisible, at least to the people who get paid to "reach out" to them, and not always because of the language they speak.

We respect professionals, including polling professionals, but the idea most large organizations have of who we are -- as revealed by the marketing that is thrown at us everywhere we go -- is often woefully inaccurate. This year the pollsters seemed to figure we were just like the people in the Bloomberg ads -- "multicultural" and "diverse" in a TV-friendly way, walking with the Mayor down clean sidewalks, shaking hands with him and optimistically looking toward the future.

But to a shocking extent, they miscalculated -- and so did we.

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Comments (3)

leonie haimson says:

you forget to mention the Garin-Hart poll that had Thompson behind by only three points among those who said they were certain to vote -- and only eight points behind overall. The poll that Wolfson et al ridiculed. That one was right on the money. Wolfson should be made to eat crow.

Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 12:57PM
Vinny L says:

100 Million dollars. Support from corrupt DemocRAT turn coats. Support from your charity recipients. Support from your friends in media and you only won by FIVE POINTS? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

SCREWWW ALL of the bosses at The NY Times, and the Daily News! The complaints about the elitist dictator subverting democracy and squeezing the middle class and working poor WERE VERY REAL TO US! Despite your efforts to shape OUR opinions about OUR own reality!

The Times was projecting Bloomberg the winner early by TKO on there website before the numbers were clear. They had to change their toon as you can see on their front page this morning. You have to go figure why none of the major papers conducted their own polls. They wanted us to believe the bogus marist/Quinnipiac polls!

Plus to minus 2 point inacurracy??? Really? How about the poll being OFF by over TEN percentage points! lol...

Oh, and to the UFT for not supporting Thompson: Screw ya!

I hope Bloomberg privatizes the entire school system and has all of your members working as indentured servants! I'll be praying for it everyday!

SEIU 1199? Screw ya!

All of you "House Slaves" in city politics supporting Quinn, Bloomberg and the developers, and the MTA etc... Screw all of ya's

You people vote for and help elect an elitist and then you start to wonder why all the prices shoot through the roof so only the rich can afford to live here and the homeless people get bus tickets to get out of town?

Mike Bloomberg is just doing what comes natural to him so I don't blame him. Rich people naturally don't want to be around people who aren't like them. And they think some people are just a waste of space and air.

In addition to banning smoking in outdoor areas... Soon, the dictator from Wall Street will start rationing and raising the price of food while saying it contributes to obesity and global warming. But of course the rich will have all they can eat and then some.

You think that's a stretch?

He's already rationing water in city bathrooms! While he runs all the water he wants at home! I can't even finish washing my hands in a public bathroom without the water shutting off...

Somebody once said that Thompson was just a redistributionist and Bloomberg is a job creator and you can't have redistribution without wealth creation. Well good, then maybe Bloomberg's talent is best used in the private sector! Leave the redistribution to government!

Vince from Harlem -

Posted On: Wednesday, Nov. 4 2009 @ 3:28PM
DICK BUTKUS says:

VINCE

HOW MANY DINKLE BERRIES HAVE YOU
ATE OUT OF JBERG ASSHOLE.

HES DOOMED LIKE THE REST OF JEWTOWN
ALL THE BEST PEOPLE LEFT YRS AGO.

BEC THEY SAW THE HOLOCAUST HE UNLEASHED
ON US AFT 911 DECEPTION
TICKETS TAXES RUNAWAY OVERDEVLPM AND
LOSS OF THOU. OF JOBS.

GO FIND ANOTHER WHORE
HE DONT CARE BOUT YOU FOOL.

Posted On: Thursday, Nov. 5 2009 @ 10:34AM

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