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By Graham Rayman, Thursday, Dec. 10 2009 @ 3:34PM
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Ever wonder what online poker companies think of you, the consumer?

Well, on the heels of our piece in this week's Voice about James Giordano and Internet gambling, someone forwarded us an investment bank's analysis of an online poker company named PartyGaming.

Advocates of online poker like Rep. Barney Frank, who is sponsoring a bill to legalize it, and former senator-turned-lobbyist Alphonse D'Amato, paint internet poker as just a fun way to win money at home or as a matter of personal freedom.

But the 2006 analysis by the Swiss-American investment bank UBS strips away the spin and looks only at the business model. The result is a less than flattering portrayal.

Check out this sentence: "Attracting poor players -- the fish -- to feed the good ones -- the sharks -- is the only way the online poker model works," the analysis says...

Ten percent of players, the sharks, generate almost 80 percent of the revenue, the anaysis says. That means there are a relative handful of professional poker players that are sucking money off of the casual players, who are known as "fish, donkeys or donators," the analysis says.

If you are one of those, you basically don't have a chance to win. Your typical shark plays multiple tables, and uses databases to track player history. They aren't playing for fun. UBS' analysts argue that PartyGaming seems to have been set up to favor the sharks.

Think about that, the next time you sit down for an online hand.

In order for online poker sites to succeed, they desperately need a steady flow of new fish, the analysis says. "Finding new fish to feed the sharks is the most important requirement for PartyGaming to succeed," the analysis says. "Without these fish, the model falls apart."

Eventually, UBS concludes, if an online poker site can't keep attracting new customers to be the fish, profits will inevitably drop.

The analogy is that if each shark eats two fish a day, and those fish aren't replaced, then eventually, the number of fish will decrease and the ocean will be filled with sharks. Those sharks will then starve because there aren't enough fish to eat.

"In the world of profiteering, we believe that sharks who were once winning comfortably will leave the site and look for greener pastures because they are not winning enough to justify their time," UBS says.

After the U.S. banned online poker for money, PartyGaming avoided losing money by attracting more players in Europe, the analysis says. Eventually, that bump will fade. "We cannot see how poker can recover to its highs because the player pool will become shark infested," UBS analysts write.

Keep that in mind next time you're tempted to ante up, sucker fish.

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Al Swearengen says:

All right, as a grinder who was playing around 200,000 hands/year a couple of years ago, this is a bit too alarmist.

Because above all, Poker is still a game of luck, especially online poker where you can't see your opponent physically sweating out their bluff. Sometimes your opponent just has a slightly better hand. The biggest pots I've ever lost were straights and flushes that lost to slightly better straights and flushes.

I still play a few tournaments a week but I've ditched the databases and software that overlays statistics on screen. It's been pretty successful to just play the basics--don't play many hands, play hard on the hands you do play (pot-sized bets), and learn to fold if passive players come over the top.

The only way to play online poker is to really get into the level 3 thinking, what does your opponent think about you. Since I play tight-aggressive no one is coming back at me without a hand.

Posted On: Thursday, Dec. 10 2009 @ 5:38PM
Bill says:

I use to win alot of money playing online poker untill they came out with the bad beat jackpot.Now thats all i get is bad beats so i only play live poker now.

Posted On: Thursday, Dec. 10 2009 @ 6:58PM
Andy says:

The report is as foolish as many other reports these "analysts" put out. Fish has a choice to play on smaller sites not attended by the sharks. Sharks by sucking out the money are not doing any favors to the poker rooms, who need the money to be "recycled" many times over to collect as much rake as they can. There is a lot more to it than a report by some anal-yst who has no idea what he is talking about. It's like saying that for Tiger Woods to keep winnig and making money he needs weaker golf players, so stop playing golf unless you are as good as Tiger. And if you go with a "poker is a game of luck" theory, than there is no point of talking about fish and sharks.

Posted On: Friday, Dec. 11 2009 @ 8:21AM
Bobby says:

Two problems with this story....Firstly it's based on old information and secondly, UBS analysts know pretty much nothing about gambling (unless it's with your money).

These days most legitimate poker networks ban sites with too many sharks because over time they realized that the fish (who actually feed the networks) will just stop playing, while others have taken to closing sharks accounts to get them off their websites.

Posted On: Friday, Dec. 11 2009 @ 11:14AM
Mean Gene says:

Pretty much everything in this article and in the comments about the article is patent nonsense, written by people who have absolutely no clue about poker in general and online poker in particular. The "fish-shark" paradigm described in the article is so off-base it beggars belief. If this is the kind of "analysis" investment banks are providing their customers (and if this is the sort of information newspapers are providing their readers) then no wonder we're all in the proverbial handbasket.

Posted On: Friday, Dec. 11 2009 @ 12:55PM
D Chas says:

This is one of the most thoughtless, and unresearched articles I have read in a long time. It suggest that no one should compete in anything unless they are already an expert. It also suggest that these "sharks" started out as sharks. Beginners learn, get better, and move up the food chain, everyone starts as a fish. Besides there are many levels of stakes, the lower the stakes the weaker the players, there are no sharks waiting to outplay newcomers at the microstakes.

Posted On: Saturday, Dec. 12 2009 @ 6:19AM
Mike S says:

The problem with the author's logic is that, for ANY global group of players that play a competitive strategy game for money, some of them will be losers and some of them will be winners! If you remove some winning players, some of the losers become winning players. If you remove some losing players, some of the winning players become losing players. Therefore a site wanting to "attract fish" is the same as a site wanting to attract PLAYERS of any sort... which is hard to argue with. The fish/shark economy works itself out from whatever given player base the site happens to attract.

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