Welcome to blogs.villagevoice.com
Blogs
  • News
    • » News Home
    • » Daily News
    • » Runnin' Scared - News Blog
    • » Tom Robbins
    • » Wayne Barrett
  • Music
    • » Music Home
    • » Top Picks
    • » Find a Bar or Club
    • » Pazz & Jop
    • » Down in Front
    • » Sound of the City
    • » Siren
    • » Submit an Event
    • » Jukebox
    • » Join Music Newsletter
    • » Entertainment Ads
  • Calendar
    • » Calendar Home
    • » Top Picks
    • » Comedy Events
    • » Submit an Event
    • » Entertainment Ads
  • Restaurants
    • » Restaurants Home
    • » Restaurant Guide
    • » Restaurant Reviews
    • » Sietsema's Counter Culture
    • » Find a Bar or Club
    • » Fork in the Road (column)
    • » Fork in the Road (blog)
    • » Sponsored Online Menus
    • » Choice Eats Tasting Event
    • » Join Dining Newsletter
    • » Restaurant Ads
    • » Happy Hours App
  •  
  • Arts
    • » Arts Home
    • » Calendar
    • » Books
    • » Theater
    • » Art
    • » Dance
    • » Obies Theater Awards
  • Films
    • » Films Home
    • » Now Showing
    • » Movie Showtimes
    • » Reviews
    • » Join NY Film Club
    • » Movie Ads
  • The Ads
    • Ad Index
    • Flip Book
    • Media Kit
    • » Fitness Health & Beauty Guide
    • » Sponsored Online Menus
  • Classifieds
    • Free Online Classifieds
    • Real Estate For Rent
    • Sexy Black Book
    • Virtual Career Fair
    • Personals
    • Real Estate for Sale
    • Place an Ad (print)
  • Blogs
    • » Runnin' Scared
    • » Sound of the City
    • » La Daily Musto
    • » Fork in the Road (blog)
    • » All City
  • Columns
    • » La Dolce Musto
    • » Tom Robbins
    • » Sex
    • » Horoscope
  • Best Of
    • » Arts & Entertainment
    • » Bars & Clubs
    • » Food & Drink
    • » People & Places
    • » Shopping & Services
    • » Sports & Recreation
    • » Best of Ads
  • Bars/Clubs
    • » Bars/Clubs Home
    • » Gay Bars & Clubs
    • » Bars/Club Ads
    • » Happy Hours App
  • Archives
    • Advanced Archive Search
    • Locations Map
    • Event Search
  • Reader Recommendations
  • Promotions
    • Street Team
    • Join The Street Team
    • Contests & Promotions
    • Text Alerts
    • Buy Village Voice Merchandise
    • Supplements Archive
  • Site Map

Top

blog

Stories

  • Free Verse Poetry

    Tiger Woods' Sex Texts as Free Verse Poetry

    By Foster Kamer

    1
  • Overlooked and Hoberated

    J. Hoberman Responds to Armond White

    By J. Hoberman

    2
  • Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics

    The Media's Hipster Addiction

    By Foster Kamer

    3
  • Protest

    Tea Partiers Lose Morning to Bloodfest

    By Roy Edroso

    4
  • Blowhards

    Andrew Breitbart: Pussy.

    By Foster Kamer

    5
  • Exploring the Right Wing Blogosphere

    Rightbloggers Whoop Up a Texas Re-Education

    By Roy Edroso

    6
  • Dating

    Renaissance Dating Tips: The Finale

    By Village Voice contributor

    7
  • Media

    Happy Birthday, Rupert Murdoch!

    By Foster Kamer

    8
  • Primers

    Carlos Slim: The Richest Man in the World

    By Foster Kamer

    9
  • Overlooked and Hoberated

    Proof! Critic Called for Baumbach's Abortion

    By J. Hoberman

    10
  • Politics

    Chatting with Monserrate's Spiritual Advisor

    By Steven Thrasher

    11
  • Dating

    Still More Renaissance Pick-Up Lines!

    By Village Voice contributor

    12
  • Dating

    Renaissance Pick-Up Strategies Exposed

    By Village Voice contributor

    13
  • Nanny State

    Bloomberg: Won't Somebody Please Think of The Children?

    By Roy Edroso

    14
  • Death and Taxes

    Oldest Woman in U.S. Cedes Crown

    By Foster Kamer

    15
 
Baseball

Jersey Rays: Pipe Dream or Just-Barely-Conceivable Pipe Dream?

By Neil deMause, Wednesday, Jan. 27 2010 @ 10:56AM
Comments (4)
Categories: Featured

jerseyrays.jpg
​
Normally, the Tampa Bay Rays complaining that their home stadium is a dump wouldn't be news here in New York, given that 1) people have been complaining about Tropicana Field since before the Rays even debuted there in 1998 and 2) the Rays only enter New Yorkers' radar in the odd seasons when they threaten to break through the Yanks-Sox oligarchy in the A.L. East.

All that changed this week, however, when Peter Gammons, former star of ESPN and the $20 bill, mentioned in his MLB.com column that "there are smart people in the Major League Baseball offices wondering if there's hope of even discussing a potential move of the Rays to New Jersey or Southern Connecticut over certain protests from the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox and Phillies."

It was just one line in a long essay about whether Florida is fit for major league baseball (verdict: if you can't love B.J. Upton, who can you love?), but with that, a meme was born. Soon enough, WNBC was blogging about where you could fit a stadium in North Jersey, and from there it was off to the races.

So, could it actually work? From the Rays' perspective, undoubtedly — and that's not a comment on the state-of-the-artness of the Trop or the underwater-ness of the Florida economy, but rather on the awesome might of the New York-area media market. When I ran some numbers for Baseball Prospectus a few years back (subscription-only, sorry — hey, it's the future of journalism), it turned out that a Florida team could turn a profit on a move to New Jersey even if they had to pay for a new stadium out of their own pocket, thanks largely to the massive boodle that they could rake in from Big Apple-priced cable deals.

In fact, adding a third team to the tristate area would have benefits for baseball as a whole as well. For those who haven't noticed, MLB has a bit of a competitive balance problem, where the big-market teams like the Yankees and Mets have been able to spend their opponents into the ground on the strength of their outsized revenues. (In the Mets' case, of course, they've been mostly using the money to dig a hole to the N.L. East basement.) Adding a third team to the region, as NBC blogger Craig Calcaterra noted last month, would dilute the New York teams' economic advantage in one fell swoop without resorting to a salary cap or extreme revenue sharing or other means that might tick off the players' union. Some economists have even suggested that New York could reasonably support five teams with its population — a baseball reincarnation of the Stapleton Stapes, anyone?

The big obstacle, of course, is that such a move would undeniably tick off the Steinbrenners and the Wilpons, who would not be pleased to see a large chunk of their media money get reassigned to the Jersey Swamp Things or the Connecticut Nutmeg Counterfeiters. While the notion of "territorial rights" is a convenient MLB fiction, conferred on baseball owners by themselves to ward off exactly this sort of market poaching, it's a fiction that by now has a long, established history, one that Yankee and Met lawyers would no doubt be eager to bring up in the inevitable lawsuits that would fly if a third team tried to land in the area.

There are, however, two possible scenarios where a third New York franchise might just be feasible, if you squint just right. First off, the owners of the Oakland A's are currently involved in a squabble of their own over territorial rights, seeking to relocate to San Jose, which the owners of the San Francisco Giants point out is officially their territory — albeit only because of an aborted Giants move to the South Bay way back in the '80s. One possible outcome of this Bay Area battle is for MLB commissioner to sit both sides down and negotiate a price for indemnification of their relinquishing their grip on San Jose. Once that precedent is set, if the price is low enough that when translated to New York dollars a team could relocate here without having to sell off all their best players to pay it ... but that's a big "if."

The alternate route: New Jersey or Connecticut could file an antitrust lawsuit against MLB, charging that the whole "territorial rights" canard is an illegal conspiracy to deny them the right to relocate a business to their state. Yes, baseball has an antitrust exemption, dating back to a bizarre case involving the owners of the Baltimore Terrapins of the Federal League, but plenty of scholars believe it's on shaky legal grounds, which is why MLB has tended to try to avoid allowing challenges to get as far as a courtroom. In fact, the last legal challenge to the antitrust exemption was put forward by the state of Florida in the early '90s, after MLB refused to let the Giants relocate there — a suit that was later settled out of court by the granting of a new expansion team to Florida.

That team? The Tampa Bay Rays. At least somebody would be happy about the irony.

Comments (4) Write Comment
Share

Comments (4)

floormaster squeeze says:

The problem in the U. S. is that the status of "Big League City" is aspirational or historical rather than economical. If you look at soccer worldwide the status of "big league" is enforced by the market and made very real by promotion and relegation (if you have a sucky team you cannot manage or support you are gone until you get your act back together).

It is possible to have a big city support more teams and the most extreme example comes from Buenos Aries where 13 of the 20 top professional soccer teams reside (2 more nearby in the province as well).

Posted On: Friday, Jan. 29 2010 @ 2:31PM
nfl football jerseys says:

Hi! Good idea, but will this really work?

Posted On: Friday, Jan. 29 2010 @ 2:34PM
John Bladen says:


If we in the western world weren't hobbled by the flawed legal notion of sports league's having "territorial" rights to markets they do (and in many cases, do not) have representation in, this would already have happened.

New York used to have several baseball teams, and even in the middle of the last century had three professional teams.

I could accept (and see some legal justification for) the right to preclude movement into a given population area if that area did not possess sufficient market capacity to absorb a (or another) franchise - franchise location limits set by population, more or less. There is no justification for limiting franchise location by municipal border. A third franchise in metro NY would still leave all three in 'possession' of arguably the largest market (or share thereof) in the game. If we are truly in a free market system, the NY market would have franchises added until it's clubs are no longer at the "top of the heap" revenue-wise. It's funny how "whatever the market will bear" is a phrase used only in player salary and owner subsidy arguments - never in franchise relocation discussions.

League lawyers suggesting this would be equivalent to someone adding a second team in Minnesota are simply lying. They (and the courts they plead before) know it.

Posted On: Friday, Jan. 29 2010 @ 6:07PM
NailsCF says:

Hey, they had three teams here up until 1957 - all quite popular, as I recall. Which I don't, because I was born in 1978. But from the old folks waxing fondly about the days when Mickey Mantle played across the Harlem River from Willie Mays and Duke Snider was walloping 'em out of Ebbetts Field, seems like all three teams had quite a following.

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 2 2010 @ 3:21PM

Write Comment


Comments may not show up immediately after submission. Please wait a minute after posting a comment for it to appear.

All reader comments are subject to our Terms of Use. By clicking "Post," you acknowledge that you have reviewed and agree to these Terms.

Tools

Search Runnin' Scared


Follow

Email tips to tips@villagevoice.com

SlideShows»

  • Smell the Glove Party
  • Driven by Boredom's 9 Year Anniversary Party (NSFW)
  • Late-Night at the Shank
  • More Slideshows >>

Most …

  • Big Energy Tube Thing "Smashes" Record, Sounds Terrifying, Still Totally Misunderstood
  • Big Win for Satan: Heavy Metal Addict Wins Disability Benefits
  • Sauced Court Cop Pops Paddy's Day Gat Shot
  • City Has $$ for Computer Consultants, Not for Firehouses: Daily News
  • Ivanka Trump Stalker (Stalker? Really?) Arrested
  • More Recent Entries...
  • Is the Media's "Hipster" Grifting Soon to End? (35)
  • Rightbloggers Find New Texas School Curriculum a Boon to Re-Education (29)
  • If Armond White Only Knew What a Monster J. Hoberman Really Is... (24)
  • Bruce Asante, 29, Stabbed and Killed in the Bronx (22)
  • Richard Cedeno, 25, Shot and Killed Outside City College (15)
  • Is the Media's "Hipster" Grifting Soon to End?
  • If Armond White Only Knew What a Monster J. Hoberman Really Is...
  • Anthony Weiner, Senators Call for End to Ban on Gay Men Donating Blood
  • Proof That Critic Armond White Did Call for Noah Baumbach's Abortion
  • Alex Chilton, Big Star Singer: Memorialized in House of Representatives Floor Speech?

Twitter Feed

Follow villagevoice on Twitter

More Twitter >>

VVM on Digg

  • 1
    diggs
    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer (Surprise, Surprise!) Doesn't Li
  • 64
    diggs
    Malnourished Easter Bunnies Seized
  • 51
    diggs
    Jewish Org Says: No Facebook, Digg for 24hrs
  • 93
    diggs
    Man Gets Fired, Lights Ex-Employer's Boat on Fire
  • 79
    diggs
    Stem-Cell Boob Jobs: Doctors Now Turning Extra Fat Into Tits
  • 38
    diggs
    Wear Your Stomach On Your Finger!
  • 60
    diggs
    Man arrested for peeing on 7 Hispanic girls
  • 73
    diggs
    Moron of the Day Paid for Crack with Monopoly Money
  • 2
    diggs
    Butterfly Explosion at SXSW: Irish Shoegaze in a Basement Re
  • 147
    diggs
    The 10 Best Stories in the Star Wars Expanded Universe
  • 322
    diggs
    Cheech and Chong: 5 surprising facts
  • 280
    diggs
    How a Bag of Rice Can Save Your iPhone’s Life
  • 437
    diggs
    Wachovia Admits It Laundered Millions in Mexican Drug Cash
  • 394
    diggs
    Top 10 Kit Kat Flavors You’ve Probably Never Tried
  • 331
    diggs
    Missouri Lawmaker Wants Women to Give Reason For Abortion
  • 337
    diggs
    Woman Gardens Topless Near School; Kids Like It, Cops Don't
  • 384
    diggs
    Dad Tries to Sell Son on Craigslist for $5,000
  • 269
    diggs
    SXSW Interactive Is Dead
  • 191
    diggs
    Alex Chilton Of Big Star Dies In New Orleans
  • 385
    diggs
    Blockbuster Fights Bankruptcy: A Lost Cause?
  • 8774
    diggs
    Legalization of Marijuana Bill in California
  • 5801
    diggs
    Guess Who is Facing 21 Years in Prison?
  • 5051
    diggs
    Guys Dates Several Prostitutes. No Sex. Just Regular Dates.
  • 4605
    diggs
    Get Up, Stand Up: Ammiano Introduces Marijuana Legalization
  • 3753
    diggs
    Denver Airports Controversial 32 FT Zombie Mustang Sculpture
  • 3742
    diggs
    Guy Dumps His Cheating Girlfriend Live on Radio (Audio)
  • 2720
    diggs
    Meet Scientology's Worst Enemy
  • 2695
    diggs
    Decision Tree: Should I Buy an iPad? (PIC)
  • 2631
    diggs
    The best (PIC) of Colin Powell you'll see today.
  • 2589
    diggs
    Police Get The Wrong House In Galveston, Assault 12-Year old

Links

  • Village Voice
  • Wayne Barrett
  • Elizabeth Dwoskin
  • Jockbeat
  • Michael Musto
  • Tom Robbins
  • Somebody Got Murdered
  • Studies in Crap
  • New York Daily News
  • New York Post
  • New York Times
  • Newsday
  • Wall Street Journal
  • Washington Post
  • YouTube
  • Salon
  • Slate
  • Gawker
  • Huffington Post
  • Daily Kos
  • Drudge Report
  • The Daily Show
  • Colbert Report
  • Politico
  • Philadelphia Inquirer
  • Associated Press
  • Fox News
  • The Onion
  • ESPN
  • CNN
  • Time
  • Forward
  • New York
  • New Yorker
  • New York Review of Books
  • New York Observer
  • ABC News
  • CBS News
  • MSNBC
  • Newsweek
  • New York Sun
  • National Review
  • New Republic
  • Harper's
  • Atlantic
  • Vanity Fair
  • The Nation
  • Radar
  • New York Law Journal
  • Columbia Journalism Review
  • Columbia Spectator
  • Washington Square News
  • News India Times
  • Women's Wear Daily
  • Amsterdam News
  • New York Press
  • Time Out
  • IRIN
  • Indymedia
  • FAIR: Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting
  • Cryptome
  • Human Rights Watch
  • United for a Fair Economy
  • International Crisis Group
  • nola.com: New Orleans Times-Picayune
  • The New Yorker:Iraq Coverage
  • Index on Censorship
  • CounterPunch
  • Center for Contemporary Conflict
  • McClatchy D.C. Bureau
  • TomDispatch.com
  • Common Dreams News Center
  • War Report — Project on Defense Alternatives
  • Power & Interest News Report
  • Selves and Others
  • Antiwar.com
  • Johnson's Russia List
  • Energy Bulletin
  • Dry Dipstick
  • IFIWatchnet
  • Al Jazeera
  • chechnya-sl
  • Bushims
  • ACLU's Torture FOIA
  • Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
  • National Security Archive
  • Waxman Committee
  • Ethics Daily
  • Bretton Woods Project
  • Human Rights First
  • Center for Public Integrity
  • GlobalSecurity.org
  • Institute for War & Peace Reporting
  • 9-11 Timeline
  • Iraq Body Count
  • Students for an Orwellian Society
  • Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
  • whitehouse.gov
  • whitehouse.org
About Us | Work for Village Voice | Esubscribe | Free Classifieds | Advertising | Privacy Policy | Problem With the Site? | RSS | Site Map
©2010 Village Voice, LLC. All rights reserved.