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MF Doom: Worst Rapper Ever?

Posted by Tom Breihan at 2:02 PM, January 27, 2006

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Did he really make a live album? Really?

MF Doom + Big Daddy Kane + Little Brother + Pete Rock + some other guy
Nokia Theatre
January 26, 2006

I was too busy watching Ninja Turtles to ponder the question at the time, but it doesn't seem remotely possible that anyone in 1989 would've been able to envision a day when Big Daddy Kane would be opening for Zev Love X. Zev was half of an alternately goofy and political duo with vague Native Tongues affiliations, and Kane was one of the great lights of New York rap, a born star with vicious charisma and good looks and fierce dance moves and an effortlessly quick and dazzling flow. So last night's show was truly bizarre, something like what might happen if Cam'ron opened for Elzhi from Slum Village seventeen years from now. Kane and Zev, of course, have had wildly divergent careers since 89. Kane's fell off pretty quickly in the early 90s, as he damaged his reputation making a few too many love-raps and, crucially, appearing naked in Madonna's Sex book. Despite a few late-90s rumors that he'd be signing with Roc-A-Fella, he's been effectively retired for about ten years, only popping up every so often to wreck a stage like he did at the VH-1 Hip-Hop Honors. Zev, of course, disappeared after the death of his brother and partner Subroc and resurfaced a few years later wearing a metal mask, muttering fascinatingly free-associative non-sequitur rhymes, and crafting disorienting beats from chopped-up shards of quiet storm and hotel-lounge jazz, calling himself MF Doom. These days, he's just about the only thing in underground rap worth anyone's attention while Kane is an almost-forgotten veteran. Still, last night's show didn't make much sense.

For one thing, it was the Nokia Theatre's first-ever rap show, and the venue had all the problems that non-rap venues always have with rap shows: stressed-out bouncers, baffled soundmen, truly bizarre choices in between-acts piped-in music. (Red Hot Chili Peppers? Really?) But the show's greatest problem was the weirdly cobbled-together bill. MF Doom is not one tenth the performer that Big Daddy Kane is. He doesn't even belong on the same bill, let alone headlining. And so the show came off looking like a celebration of mediocrity, a case study in why New York backpack-rap is in steep decline.

Here's the thing: MF Doom is a great rapper, an enigmatic master of persona shifts and weird transitions; he turns traditional battle-rap into an exercise in sidelong expressionism and internal-rhyme virtuosity. But his music isn't even remotely suited for a live show. On record, his under-the-breath all-tangent flow is compellingly mysterious, especially when paired with swirling low-fi beats. It's headphones stuff. Onstage, he doesn't have the advantage of that mystery; he's just a chubby dude in a mask rapping too loud over muddy beats and yelling about get-money between songs while two unbelievably obnoxious hypemen refuse to shut up and an inept DJ fucks up and makes excuses ("That's what happens when you use real vinyl, y'all"). He managed to fill the 2000-capacity Nokia Theatre, possibly his biggest-ever local headlining show, and he treated it like he was just playing some hole in the wall, standing still onstage and saying his rhymes while lights twirled around behind him, no presence or charisma, his mask the only remotely theatrical part of the show. Inexplicably, he didn't do anything from last year's DangerDoom, even though that album's primary-color plastic throwback beats would've probably sounded pretty good on a big sound system. He showed an absolute unwillingness to work for his adulation, and the result was an inexcusably boring and lazy show.

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The weirdest part was that Doom didn't see anything wrong with half-assing it even after a dazzlingly ferocious performance from Kane, still a star even if he hasn't released an album in years. Kane's show wasn't perfect. He didn't break out any of the absurdly great dance moves he showed on the VH-1 show. His bright-red leather pants were a dubious fashion decision. He ran out of breath a bit on "Warm It Up, Kane," though you probably would too if you tried to do that song while running through a crowd. But it's telling that the only slow part of Kane's set came when he surrendered the stage to the Furious Five's Melle Mel and Rahiem: old-school legends all, but Melle Mel is muscular to the point where it stops being cool and starts being gross. His arms are so huge that they don't even hang at his sides, and he seems barely able to move. When he took off his shirt, it was just uncomfortable, so it wasn't exactly heartbreaking to see them leave the stage after "The Message." Seriously, nasty. Kane did most of his classics ("Raw," "The Symphony," "Smooth Operator," "Ain't No Half-Steppin'"), but the most thrilling parts of his show weren't the nostalgia moments. An extended RIP-riff didn't start with Big Pun or Big L but with Barry White and Lou Rawls and, um, Chris Penn ("Y'all know you love Reservoir Dogs, don't front.") And his flawless fast-rap freestyle over "What's Your Fantasy" was just mind-boggling. Kane knows how to put on a show, and the other acts on the bill should've been taking notes.

Surprisingly, Little Brother didn't need that much help. The North Carolina trio has the overwhelming support of the Okayplayer crowd, fools who use the word "lyrical" like it actually means something and never, ever shut up about how bad rap is these days. The Minstrel Show, Little Brother's truly boring sophomore album, is one of 2005's most dishearteningly monochromatic records, a defiantly mediocre marathon of condescending anti-mainstream pandering and unearned arrogance. But onstage, they have drip none of the self-righteousness they have on record. They're into it, roaring out their lines and filling the stage with an overwhelming warmth; it was a nice surprise. Their punchlines are still disconcertingly weak ("Heart of a lion, eye of a tiger / 20-20 vision watching shit transpire"), but they know how to work a stage, which is infinitely more important. 9th Wonder is apparently too important to be their DJ these days, which is fine; it was fun seeing him come out on the first song, do the Dame Dash bottle-dance for a couple of minutes, and then disappear. Phonte and Big Pooh both do great fat-guy dances; they'd make good hypemen. Their set got old before it ended, but it went a long way toward showing why their following is as big as it is. And I think I heard them say something about doing a Gangsta Grillz mixtape before leaving the stage, so that's something.

Pete Rock was also on the bill, but it was hard to say why; he's a great producer, but he doesn't rap anymore, and he's not a particularly great DJ, so there wasn't much he could do. His set started out as a listening party; he'd talk about his new album and play a track, which doesn't exactly make for a riveting show. ("I got something with the Diplomats, my man Jim Jones." Crowd boos. "I know, I know. You gotta respect it because it's me, though!") After a little while, Jin wandered out, but he wasn't much help since he didn't have anyone to battle. Jin is still nothing more than a punchline rapper, and it's tough to envision him moving past that role. With no focus for his ire, he's totally lost; he ends up going on and on about fucking contracts and sales figures ("These days, if you don't sell platinum or gold, they say you a flop / I'd be happy to do 100,000 when I drop." Nobody cares, dude!). The funniest part was when he announced he was going to do a song big-upping producers, Pete Rock started to play a beat, and Jin said, "That's OK, I'm going to do it a cappella. But thanks!" Back to Fight Klub with this guy.

And still, the crowd ate him up, just like every other weak-ass rapper who stepped onstage last night. It was a far cry from the October Ghostface show at BB King's, where the crowd booed the awful backpack-rap openers Swollen Members off the stage. At this show, even the opening guy whose name I didn't catch got applause for his unbelievably terrible punchlines ("My father was a photographer; I was born focused"). It would be nice to see indie-rap return to its late-90s peak, but that isn't going to happen if crowds like the one last night keep encouraging the unacceptable. When underground rap gets a free pass just because it's underground, nobody wins. Nothing gets better.

comments

You're about as loquacious as they come, T-Bone, but your assessment of Little Brother is rather philistine. Sorry.

But yeah, MF Doom continues to dissapoint at his live shows. It'd probably prove more efficient for him to perform his material like an author would at his book signing.

Posted by: Stingy at January 27, 2006 3:41 PM

So I'll agree that Kane did tear shit up, that much is true. I'll also agree that Little Brother most likely did NOT (I came too late to catch them) but I'll have to disagree with your outlook and title of this review. First off, remember that DOOM really isn't much of a live performer as far as standards go. He doesn't partake in the usual hip-hop tradition of call and response. (One might see it as "rockin' a crowd" but at this point in the life of hip-hop doesn't that all seem a bit bland? How many times can we respond with an enthusiastic "yeah!" to a question like "are y'all ready to rock this shit?" without wanting to never do it again?) DOOM doesn't waste much of his time speaking to his crowd inbetween songs, a method most might have to use to catch their breath. Instead he runs from song to song, performing (in most cases) every lyric he's written in the fashion they were created in. Most rappers don't realize that microphones are intended to amplify voices, so they scream their first three or so songs with such passion until they ruin their voice for the remainder of the bill. DOOM has to have mastered breath control because he seemed to keep up with every syllable he wrote. Now I'll admit the Villain seemed a bit belligerent when he first stepped on stage, but he killed it once tracks from Madvillainy came on. How can you question the fact that he may be the worst rapper ever? Take into account how many "rappers" are on TV, on radio stations and on our fucking cell phones citing the same few reasons why they are the richest, toughest and best rappers out. The man created something new, borrowed from what he loved and became a completely different person. He sucessfully reinvented his career and persona. He's collaborated with so many it's hard to keep track. So what if the few pounds he's gained keep him from running through a crowd? It wasn't too often that we saw the likes of Big Pun or Biggie Smalls diving off stage to greet fans, but that didn't make them a candidate for "worst rapper ever". It's late, and I'm bored, and I disagree. DOOM ripped shit at the Nokia Theatre. Goodnight

Posted by: xfourninetwox at January 28, 2006 12:31 AM

Not sure it was Nokia's first rap show. Caught the reunited X-Clan there in front of "Junior Gong" Marley—who'd probably say he's a rapper. Whatever. Don't think you should be so hard on the hip-hop underground, though; MF Doom is wildly overrated, but cats like Brother Ali and Mr. Lif aren't. And the Lifesavas ripped shit up in front of the Coup not long ago in Brooklyn.

Posted by: tru blu at January 28, 2006 10:12 AM

Great review man, I totally agree with you on Little brother and especially Jin.

Posted by: HumanityCritic at January 28, 2006 10:40 AM

Shoots been fired at OKAYPLAYER,now look at them scatter.
What will hurt you only makes you stronger.
Wear it on the chin and Man Up!
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=602538&mesg_id=602538&page=

Posted by: Sun_das_ill at January 28, 2006 12:48 PM

friend,

you are officially what's hot in The Streets . . . err . . . okayplayer.

teehee.

--Will

Posted by: Will Dukes at January 28, 2006 2:38 PM

Okay that's entertaining and all, but if you're gonna do the whole blog-macho thing and shit on everybody, at least make sure your own shit is on point.. I'm pretty sure the "okayplayer crowd" would know that KMD was not a duo! :)

Posted by: jsmooth995 at January 28, 2006 3:29 PM

As someone that also attended that boring show I must say that your review was spot on truthful and I agree the Okayplayers are fools that will worship anything that’s underground and hate everything that's mainstream. Their ultra negative influence on indie hip hop culture is exactly what's wrong with underground hip hop music today.

Posted by: Bashar Jackson at January 30, 2006 12:41 AM

Tom. You should read this. It's by a member of Little Brother (Phonte). You done fucked up now . . .

"And fuck Village Voice for sending Tom Breihan to review that Doom show. That's like sending a vegan to review the 30th Annual New Hope Baptist Church Fried Chicken contest......

I have a serious problem with these white folks like Breihan who embrace rap's darker side, while simultaneously dissing anything on the other side of it (Doom, LB, etc...). Slug from Atmosphere did an interview disussing this new phenomenon of crackers embracing crack rap, and I thought his views were dead on...."--Phonte of Little Brother on http://www.thejustusleague.com/lawn/index.php?showtopic=21230

Now, Tom, I read the Slug interview (I'm sure it was in URB); and I see where Phonte is coming from.

Do you really have a right? . . . an argument?

ADDRESS THIS SHIT!!!!!!

Posted by: Stingy at February 5, 2006 3:39 AM

or in full . . .


"So a nigga's music is defined by his fans now?

Suppose college professors started bigging up 50? Or 40 year old soccer moms started singing the praises of Dipset? Would you consider them niggas to be any less 'hood' or 'street?'

Didn't think so....

Simply put, LB is just good hip-hop. That's it. Just plain ol' dope shit.

And fuck Village Voice for sending Tom Breihan to review that Doom show. That's like sending a vegan to review the 30th Annual New Hope Baptist Church Fried Chicken contest......

I have a serious problem with these white folks like Breihan who embrace rap's darker side, while simultaneously dissing anything on the other side of it (Doom, LB, etc...). Slug from Atmosphere did an interview disussing this new phenomenon of crackers embracing crack rap, and I thought his views were dead on...."--Phonte

Posted by: Stingy at February 5, 2006 3:46 AM

This isn't the first time an artist has gotten pissed about something I've written, and it hopefully won't be the last. He's got a right to his opinion, and I've got a right to mine. The Village Voice didn't send me to review the show; I decided to go and review it; they let me cover pretty much whatever I want, so the blame is entirely mine there. As for being a white person who enjoys a certain kind of rap more than another, I've written plenty about that on this site; click around and figure it out for yourself. The weird part is that I would like to like more indie-rap; there's just not that much being made right now that really moves me. The Aceyalone/RJD2 album, the last Atmosphere, even the Little Brother album: I put all these in hoping I'd get something out of them, and they all disappointed me. Is that my fault? Maybe it is.

Posted by: Tom Breihan at February 5, 2006 12:57 PM

I feel you, Tom. Thanks.

Posted by: Stingy at February 5, 2006 1:46 PM

and oh, you should check out the group "Asamov".

Posted by: Stingy at February 5, 2006 1:47 PM

Okay Im currently too busy at the moment to reallly address this...but ill be back soon.

This Tom Breihan character really needs to be handled. I like the shit LB and Slug said its soo true, and this mother fucker is the epidemy of this syndrome.

I dont have time to really get into this right now, but here:
Mr. Tom,
I see your photo on the web. You where these fuckin like frapacino glasses, and take these really fuckin lame ass homoerotic pictures. Well lets get to it or as Jeezy would say "Let's Get It, Yeahhhh." For somebody who has such a clear desire to get street cred, distance himself from who he really is--a honky suburban kid--you got a lot of nerve. Really. I dont care if you like LB or slug, or whoever fits your indictment of backpackin, I dont even really care too much for the latter anymore neither--but you got to be kidding the way you try and embrace tough guy/ thugsta/ crack rap so hard. You are a tru mutha fuckin flunky. So "Lets get it" dogg.

You seemingly love to embrace black death, black self destruction, and the like. To me, it seems you really must hate fuckin black dudes--or as you would probably call them the "underclass, to quote the current white upper class, academia vernacular--but I cant really say you do.

Instead i would really like to see you embrace 'the hood,' and gain that ironic, and elusive 'status. So heres what I suggest, why dont you get
"On the block," as the Jeez says. You need to start really gettin in the 'hood, and see what its like, that is really live it. I would really enjoy watchin you hit the strip, walk the block, wherin those honkey-ass glasses. We'll call it the "G-Code," "Yeeaah."

What you might find is its not such a "cool" place, and you might not want to stay their to long. Walkin the blocks, going to jail, "trafficing in the white," isnt some game, or amatuer, armchair spectator sport. Watchin--and in this case listening to--black people might be fun from the outside confines of your "zoo-like" perspective. But ill tell you this, when your inside that "cage" and your trying to survive amongst the "animals" it wont be that nice...Yeahhhh.

Since the ghetto and its people are so facsinating, wouldnt it be nice if your suburban chiildhood was like that. Well lets get at it dog...Yeahhhh. Move to the real hood, quit your job, start sellin drugs and "live it." But please dont abandon those thick frame glasses--that shit will be a hit.

The reality is "we livin' in Hell" and jeezy is right and not a bad artist at that. So please go find out...and ill be back motha fucka...

Posted by: raskass at February 6, 2006 4:33 PM

Okay Im currently too busy at the moment to reallly address this...but ill be back soon.

This Tom Breihan character really needs to be handled. I like the shit LB and Slug said its soo true, and this mother fucker is the epidemy of this syndrome.

I dont have time to really get into this right now, but here:
Mr. Tom,
I see your photo on the web. You where these fuckin like frapacino glasses, and take these really fuckin lame ass homoerotic pictures. Well lets get to it or as Jeezy would say "Let's Get It, Yeahhhh." For somebody who has such a clear desire to get street cred, distance himself from who he really is--a honky suburban kid--you got a lot of nerve. Really. I dont care if you like LB or slug, or whoever fits your indictment of backpackin, I dont even really care too much for the latter anymore neither--but you got to be kidding the way you try and embrace tough guy/ thugsta/ crack rap so hard. You are a tru mutha fuckin flunky. So "Lets get it" dogg.

You seemingly love to embrace black death, black self destruction, and the like. To me, it seems you really must hate fuckin black dudes--or as you would probably call them the "underclass, to quote the current white upper class, academia vernacular--but I cant really say you do.

Instead i would really like to see you embrace 'the hood,' and gain that ironic, and elusive 'status. So heres what I suggest, why dont you get
"On the block," as the Jeez says. You need to start really gettin in the 'hood, and see what its like, that is really live it. I would really enjoy watchin you hit the strip, walk the block, wherin those honkey-ass glasses. We'll call it the "G-Code," "Yeeaah."

What you might find is its not such a "cool" place, and you might not want to stay their to long. Walkin the blocks, going to jail, "trafficing in the white," isnt some game, or amatuer, armchair spectator sport. Watchin--and in this case listening to--black people might be fun from the outside confines of your "zoo-like" perspective. But ill tell you this, when your inside that "cage" and your trying to survive amongst the "animals" it wont be that nice...Yeahhhh.

Since the ghetto and its people are so facsinating, wouldnt it be nice if your suburban childhood was like that. Well lets get at it dog...Yeahhhh. Move to the real hood, quit your job, start sellin drugs and "live it." But please dont abandon those thick frame glasses--that shit will be a hit.

The reality is "we livin' in Hell" and jeezy is right and not a bad artist at that. So please go find out...and ill be back motha fucka...

Posted by: raskass at February 6, 2006 4:33 PM

I love this idea that I'm somehow trying to get street credibility. I write about music on the internet, dude.

Posted by: Tom Breihan at February 7, 2006 11:44 AM

And another “white music dude” jumps on the trendy bandwagon of ruthlessly attacking rap artists. Gotta love it – you can almost see this guy feeling more like a man with every new negative adjective he comes up to bash these guys and their fans. You can almost feel the years of pent up hostility and jealously towards a music that took over the industry over the past decade as he typed his words onto the screen. It’s like you were almost there with him as he raced through his incomplete internet research so could appear like he knew what he was talking about in a review he wasn’t qualified to write, replete with telltale factual errors (ala Pitchfork).

And can you blame him? I mean, the low-down, dirty Source is the biggest selling music magazine out there, outselling both Rolling Stone and Spin. If something isn’t done to halt the crossover appeal of a music that was once just for and by black people to the white kids, Tom will just have to suffer through more and more of this (c)rap that all sounds the same anyway. Right Tom, “monochromatic”?

So the solution is clear for white guys like me and you Tom. Any rap dealing with everyday, regular life and/or having a universal appeal through its soulful sound is strictly for the hip-hop backpackers. Those guys are all poser nerds. I agree. Little Brother might agree (peep the “Lovin It” video). And I’m sick of all my indie rock friends jocking MF Doom too, so he stinks. It’s a brave new day, guys, where we don’t have to even pretend to like hip-hop anymore – saggy pants are so silly-looking now.

But don’t front on the old school cats because they aren’t doing anything threateningly “relevant” anyhow – that way you look like you were “down.” You did listen to PE, Tribe, and Beastie Boys back then, like all good white boys did, so it’s not really much of a stretch. And you can still pander to Kanye and Outkast, because there’s really no stopping them at this point anyway. But most importantly, be sure to keep celebrating everything that’s real ghetto and ignorant, because none of my “music friends” would listen to that stuff seriously anyway, plus the subject matter is pretty foreign to anyone that can afford to buy music in the first place.

That’s right. It’s time to stop all this racial intermingling; it’s bad for white music. Blacks, you get back over there with your poor ghetto rhymes, guns, crack, jewelry, and hos. Whites, back over here with your Midwestern indie rock, high-school angst, melodrama, and beer bottle collections. Someone has to get this straightened out, and you, Tom, with your voice, are just the guy to do it. Let’s just hope that Lauryn Hill doesn’t ever get it back together.

Posted by: nickenitro at February 8, 2006 12:17 AM


Please go back home. Please take notes from Jon Caramanica on how to respect the culture that you are shitting on.Jon is the real and your not.
Please come to the next Livendirect show with an
open mind!

Posted by: peteroasis at February 8, 2006 12:18 AM

Ha, finally someone understands what I'm trying to do! We've got to stop the rap music!

I love rap music, kids. I just don't like halfassed live shows.

Posted by: Tom Breihan at February 8, 2006 12:20 PM

but that's the thing, Tom. It doesn't really seem like you do love rap music. Not underground rap music, anyway. You pretty much said it yourself.

"The weird part is that I would like to like more indie-rap; there's just not that much being made right now that really moves me."

Maybe you should leave the underground rap live reviews and related articles to someone at Village Voice who really understands and respects and enjoys the genre?

just a thought.

Posted by: 310james at February 23, 2006 2:06 PM

i just came across your blog, and it turns out that you have the same exact opinions that did about this show. mf doom is a terrible live performer, and kane definitely got the crowd hyped. i assume, though, that you didn't stay for the encore, when talib kweli came out to do a freestyle, and everyone expected doom to come out and do "fly that knot." but alas, no. doom just came onstage for a second, said "it's time to get drunk," and kweli was left looking like a moron. the lights went on, and we all left, sad, with a little piece of ourselves dead.

Posted by: steve horowitz at March 9, 2006 9:28 AM

Hey Tom, how are those rape charges coming along? I told the guys that you probably didn't do it, but they said that DNA evidence is "solid proof" or some shit.

If you ask me bro, you did what you had to do.

Posted by: joe at February 21, 2009 8:48 AM

Nice review, did you see his new song http://tr.im/i6IT

Posted by: DAnO at April 1, 2009 4:07 PM

I can't believe the shit I am reading on here. White, black, asshole or no-dude's got a right to his opinions. You guys are right though, white folk should only be able to listen to Crosby Stills Nash and Young and the fucking Cure. Idiots.

If you don't like a review-DISAGREE WITH IT. Help me understand what it means to say "This dude has to be dealt with." Really? How? If you love hip-hop, and you have artists you really dig you should be secure in that. For example, I totally 100% disagree with the author about DOOM. Did it ruin my day? My life? Do I need to make sure he's "dealt with?" Man, go home and listen to who you like...go see the artists you like. Stop being rap Nazis, if we all liked the same shit I would be as lame as y'all REAL fan-people out there. Haha, couldn't resist.

Please tell me that wasn't the real Rass-Kass? What a dumbass opinion, but I still dig his music a lot. Why am I still writing?

Posted by: QZA113 at May 4, 2009 5:04 PM

what rap really needs is less self important A-holes like this reporter. Dissin on underground MC's cause he's all wet for Big Daddy kane. No one likes dance moves fool, thats why he dont do that anymore. You have done hip hop injustice with this article, go home and rhyme in your underoos in the mirror. real hip hop heads got work to do.

Oh and MF doom does do weak ass shows, and im a big fan of him.

Posted by: Lonestarr at May 12, 2009 5:14 PM

Picking the worst rapper ever is a relative thing. It's pretty much the same as picking the dumbest redneck or the worst Nicholas Cage movie. Every answer is correct.

Posted by: Zach at October 29, 2009 6:29 PM

DOOM is one of my all-time favorites , but everyone - including himself - knows that his live show is garbage.

Notice that this article was written before the whole DOOMposter controversy. If DOOM didn't know that he sucked live, he would never even dream that he could get away with having imposters perform live in place of him.

I'd pay more money to see DOOM barbeque live than perform his music live. Well, ya know, if the food was included.. and beer.

Posted by: Officer McGillicuddy at November 4, 2009 5:50 PM

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