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The New Jay-Z Album: A Bad Idea?

By Tom Breihan, Tuesday, Sep. 12 2006 @ 6:27PM
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Three whole years ago

The plot thickens. Someone in Bratislava, Slovakia went to the second night of Jay-Z's world tour, took a partially obscured photo of a semi-cryptic message that flashed on Jay's JumboTron, and e-mailed it to both Nah Right and Allhiphop Rumors. There's so much in there that's unlikely and inconclusive, but it still stands as further proof of something that everyone already knew: Jay-Z is recording a new record, and it's going to be out by the end of November. The screen in Bratislava apparently told all of Slovakia the release date and everything, but I guess someone's head was in someone's way, and we all have to speculate that maybe November 21 will be the day we get our first new Jay-Z album in three years. Nobody ever really believed that Jay was retired in the first place, of course; even on The Black Album, he was dropping hints and making allusions about a possible return. He did an onslaught of press around the time that album was released, and he see-sawed back and forth on whether this would be his actual last album or whether he'd maybe leave himself open to doing something in the future if he felt like it. And then he did another Best of Both Worlds album and an album with Linkin Park and an ill-fated tour with R. Kelly and a bunch of publicity-grabbing shows: Live 8, the I Declare War show, the Reasonable Doubt anniversary show, plenty of others. He ran out onstage with Kanye West and the Roots and Mariah Carey. He made guest appearances for Kanye and Beyonce and Young Jeezy and Rick Ross and Bun B and Lupe Fiasco. He pretty much never stopped doing the stuff he'd been doing all along; he just did it more slowly and deliberately, and we treated it like a major event whenever he deigned to come down from his mountain and bless us with a lazy verse or two.

The question now is whether he missed his window. Jay seems to have engendered a fair amount of industry bitterness during his tenure as Def Jam president. At first, it seemed like a great idea: someone who'd had amazing success both as an artist and a businessman, someone who clearly understood the rap business better than pretty much anyone else, taking the reigns of the most dominant rap label in history and holding in his hands the futures of Def Jam's remarkable roster, lending his expertise to smaller artists now that he wasn't going to be using it for himself anymore. Artistically, at least, he's had some great results. Late Registration and Fishscale and Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101, three of my favorite rap albums of the last couple of years, all came out during his watch. As Noz has pointed out, he's granted a surprising amount of independence; all of those albums are true and accurate depictions of their artists' aesthetics. With Kanye and Young Jeezy, he's had commercial success. But lately, his presidency has turned into something of a disaster, with albums going out into the world with minimal promotion and languishing by themselves. The Roots and Method Man released Def Jam albums on the same day and ended up competing against each other and putting up mediocre numbers; neither one seems particularly happy about it. The label hasn't had much success in turning Rihanna and Ne-Yo and Rick Ross into major stars, despite their best efforts. Freeway and Redman and Joe Budden all continue to languish on the shelves. Lady Sovereign somehow ended up with a Def Jam contract. LL Cool J showed up to the VMAs alongside 50 Cent a couple of weeks back and said that Jay works harder to promote himself than he does to promote his artists, and it was total sour grapes, but it still seemed sort of true. Now: it's entirely unclear to what extent these missteps belong to Jay. He's certainly not running the whole damn company by himself, and he's working in a climate where nobody but scrubbed country superstars and scrubbed Disney Channel pin-ups seems to be able to move records. Still, his legendary business sense isn't looking so good right now.

To make matters worse, his guest appearances have mostly been just OK lately. Jay was never someone who used his best material on other people's records; he's not a Ludacris. But early on in his fake retirement, he was still having great moments: his endlessly quotable verse on Kanye's "Diamonds" remix, "Dear Summer," even "Crazy in Love." More recently, though, he's been aping Rick Ross's turgid flow on Ross's own remix and dropping unmemorable punchlines on Beyonce songs. His appearances on Lupe Fiasco's just-leaked "Pressure" is an interesting case-in-point: it's warm and playful and virtuosic, but it also feels somehow inessential, like he's just fulfilling obligations and mumbling a couple of quick lines rather than challenging himself or doing his best to top the other guy on the track. I love Lupe, but he shouldn't be able to outrap Jay-Z even on his own song, not yet. I would dearly love to see Jay-Z come back with a new album and just obliterate the universe with it, but I'm a little skeptical whether he's going to bother.

I'm probably just being alarmist. Jay's Reasonable Doubt show was transcendent, still the best show I've seen this year and I've seen a lot of shows. He's still capable of coming up with something like "44 Fours." And a three-year break between albums is only really a big thing for someone who put out an album a year for the better part of a decade; Christina Aguilera took a longer time to grind out a new album, and she never told anyone she was retiring. I have no doubt that Jay has another amazing album in it, but if the past year has proved anything, it's that Jay-Z is not above skepticism.

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Comments (12)

dilz says:

"The label hasn't had much success in turning Rihanna and Ne-Yo and Rick Ross into major stars, despite their best efforts."

Um, what? I mean argue Rick Ross is a one-hit-wonder if you want, but Rihanna and Ne-Yo are the definition of 'stars' right now.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 3:25PM
BCTW says:

Wow - I couldn't agree more. Jay is turning Hiphop's most famous label into a R&B and snap music factory! That shit is unacceptable! And then he only lets Ghost get one fuckin single off an album that critics hailed as great? Then he releases the Roots and Meth on the same day, pitting labelmates against eachother, even though again both are critically acclaimed?? After everything the Roots and especially ?uestlove have done for him, this is how he pays them back? With no promotion or radio play or video play? What is this fool doing? He's running Def Jam into the ground and LL has a right to voice his opinion about the state of affairs of the label that LL helped launch. And then the public wants a Redman album but he won't put out Red.
And then you sign Nas, make a huge deal out of it, and then you turn around and prep your own album? What part of the game is that?
And Tom is right - dude's lyrics have gotten so lazy it's a shame. All he does is brag about how he's on resorts and islands and how he's President Carter etc. The shit is tired. And dude is about to be fired for his mis-management of the label. Like the man who's dick Jay rides said, "your reign on the top was short like leprechauns..." I expect Dame to be the last man standing for real. Jay has no loyalty but to himself and when Beyonce leaves him and he's not the head of Def Jam anymore, Jay's gonna be looking for a tall tree and a short rope... I hope he finds it. Save Hophop!

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 3:37PM
coqui says:

i always hated jay-z (i give the man grudgin repsect for finding great ways to talk about tired themes). always thought he bit too much, and his blatant dumming down to snag more listeners always got on my damn nerves. fine. i'm over it, the man 'retired' so i don't have to deal with him. but now he's fucking with cats that, if i don't like their music, respect what they try to do. fishscale is def. top five albums of the year, if it don't have the number one spot. i've heard some of meth's songs leaked, and i'm impressed, he sounds like he might be hungry on this album. the roots are always interesting, and funk doc deserves some goddam support. I swear to God, if Jay-Z fucks up the NaS album, I'ma find him and beat his pop diva-dating ass. How wack can you be to run a fucking Hip Hop institution like Def Jam into the ground? I remember honestly being glad when this cat took the helm at Def Jam, cuz I thought he'd do right by east coast rap, but like the man above me said, all def jam doing right now is pop&B and snap music. son needs to stop making bullshit apearences at award shows and writing throw away guest verses and start doing his fucking job.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 5:36PM
G Off says:

-The Roots signed a deal that didn't give them huge dollars upfront that they would have had trouble re-couping. If you have less money in your deal, you are going to have less promotions.

-Meth has done a second round of media (same as his last album) where he goes off about people writing that he has fallen off or not lived up to potential. Well, he hasn't and he has hurt himself more than his label did. Meth needs to reinvent himself and stop living off the past.

-Redman has no buzz except for a few people that live on the internet (and don't buy albums anyway). His commercial relevance is long gone. Just be honest about it.

-Jay, Nas, Kanye, Fabolous, and Jeezy are all supposedly dropping in the 4th quarter. At least let him drop the big albums before you say he has failed.

-People are thirsty for good hip hop music and when Jay drops his album, along with the others, just be happy about it. All this hating should be directed at the lazy ass artists who don't do any work to promote their own projects or to stay hot in the streets.

-If you get your albums from the internet and you aren't spending your dollars on the albums, you don't get to bitch about who is getting what promotion.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 6:18PM
coqui says:

i actually download legally, but you got valid points. didn't realize that about the roots, and you gotta give me a pass on red, nostaliga and all that. you might be right on meth, but dropping him and the roots on the same day was clearly a mistake on Jay's part. i ain't checkin for jeezy or 'ye in the fourth quarter really, one isn't a rapper, this nig yells catchy ad libs between some bullshit, and the other is a grade C rapper with great production skills who ain't figured that out yet. I'm all for Fab, but his last album didn't seem to generate that much buzz out here in the midwest (i'm originally from NY, but i'm in Nebraska now, so if i hear you on the radio here, it's a given you've blown up), not that that means he wack, i just don't know if he's gonna be a hit maker. As for NaS, like i said, if that album isn't properly marketed, it'll be an outrage, and i don't know what to say to anybody who disagrees with that. I don't know what to think about a possible Jay-Z album. I find this man tired. I realize I'm in the minority, but i'm tired of Jay-Z. His last four albums we're, for the most part, all about the same shit. I'm tired of hearing about how much money he has, how savvy he his. Yeah man, I know you cool, anything else? I'm just talkin shit though, I'll prolly cop the album if he does it out of shear curiosity.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 7:38PM
Renato Pagnani says:

Whether Hov has that much control over promotion and development of talent is one thing, but I really think there's some element of truth to LL's statement claiming Jay promotes himself better than anyone else. What this means for Nas and his supposed drop in November too is up in the air; I don't think it's a good thing for Nasir though.

Anyways, great minds must think alike because I recently wrote an article about Jay-Z's return to rap (you can read it here: http://until-the-train-stops.blogspot.com/2006/08/he-cant-leave-rap-alone-game-needs-him.html) which focuses more on the musical aspect of his upcoming material, but both of our articles share the same underlying point: don't let us down Jay!

Renato

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 7:51PM
G Off says:

Word, coqui. I think everyone is just frustrated with the lack of quality product that has come out this year, but if you look at what is coming down the pipeline, there is some hope. Lupe, Luda, Clipse, Nas, Game, Jay, Kanye- I think we will have plenty to talk about in the next few months.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 9:02PM
faux_rillz says:

Where do you get this stuff from, Tom? Are you simply that desperate to hate on Jay? By any measure--commercial or artistic--his presidency has been a resounding success. Two of last year's four biggest rap albums and two of this year's biggest RnB records. I think that's pretty meaningful in the present climate. Beyond that, he's returned the Def Jam brand to relevance after a lull of close to a decade, by developing artists signed directly to the label, rather than simply distributing the fruit of other people's efforts, as the label did during the preceding decade for Murder Inc., Ruff Ryders and Roc-a-Fella. For the first time in ages people are actually excited about and anticipating Def Jam projects. And for all of you whining about how he's defining the label's artistic legacy, clearly you've forgotten or are too young to remember such embarassments as South Central Cartel and The Don. As far as I can tell, Jays only real misstep--aside from crapping out albums by Memph Bleek and the Young Guns early on which, hey, he is compelled to do with the same regularity that he probably defecates--was putting out a Meth album at all, and I am frankly astounded that it did the numbers that it did. Not having sunk advertising dollars into a doomed project by a bitter has-been and thereby avoiding actually losing money on it counts as a victory. As for the people sniping at Jay--LL, DMX and Meth--let me know when somebody that matters weighs in with something critical.

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 10:13PM
faux_rillz says:

"defining" = defiling

Posted On: Wednesday, Sep. 13 2006 @ 10:16PM
jubilee.shine says:

the hype & dissent are both misplaced. hiphop hasnt been relevant since 97 when b.i.g. & pac were took out--to accomplish specifically that. until the street aims squarely at the imperial white supremacy & its (jimmy) henchmen which assassinated them, the industry will only be clowns & troublemakers.

hiphop was once a threat. a rising voice for the ghetto. now its beats, at best.

Posted On: Thursday, Sep. 14 2006 @ 5:48PM
haha says:

i always hated jay-z (i give the man grudgin repsect for finding great ways to talk about tired themes). always thought he bit too much
^^^^^^^^^^^nas is one of the greatest biters of all time.nothing he says is original.he steals his IDEAS from books and passes them along as his own.sometimes he(and the ppl who thinks that he is a phenomenal lyricist) doesnt even sound like he has any major understanding of the things that he raps about especially about africa.
yeah,jay has used other peoples lines but how many of those can u say really MADE the song,like if it wasnt for that line he wouldnt have this song......??????those lines are not main "ideas" which nas is certainly a biter of.i do listen to nas once in a while but please dont come out with that selective rubbish just to make yourself and your little hero sound great!

the hype & dissent are both misplaced. hiphop hasnt been relevant since 97 when b.i.g. & pac were took out
^^^^people still in denial.still hanging on to dead rappers of which one of them was a "fake" thug aka drama man for the sake of selling records to the gullible public.biggie was a monster but pac's relevance would have died out.anyway he asked for everything that he got.btw:aint no heaven for a G,u simply go to hell with it

mumbling a couple of quick lines---------
^^^^well,if you didnt get what he was saying then you simply werent meant to.no offence but it is way out of your little league.

"so the pen is the mightier than the sword my lord
my first picture was a line up…now im on the Forbes
and i still remain an artist through these all
if you force my hand ill be forced to draw
If the war calls for Warhols
Hope you got enough space on your hall’s walls
I make niggas murals
, then escape the bureau’s
investigation, out in Europe on vacation
"
btw:ll got enough promo for his cd.he simply flopped and i hope that they dont release his next album for the next 20yrs.joe budden only has internet buzz just like lupe and we all know that lupe is catching bricks right now.jay aint promoting himself,the media is.he will always be on the news because thats what people want to see/hear.not llcoolj aka stripper.he gets mag covers but NOT for his music/relevance but because of his upper body.modelling can be quite a rewarding profession and i wonder why he doesnt seem to understand that already.he should go around perfoming,doing interviews etc,jay shouldnt
do that for him.22yrs in the biz,yet no progress whatsoever

Posted On: Sunday, Oct. 8 2006 @ 7:16AM
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Posted On: Saturday, Mar. 7 2009 @ 3:17AM

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