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Lil Wayne Attacks Jay-Z

Posted by Tom Breihan at 6:18 PM, December 5, 2006

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There's this newish trend going on in rap where a rapper reaches a certain level of popularity and then gives an interview where he rains monsoon-clouds of condescension down on his peers, naming names and claiming to be better than everyone else. Over the last couple of years, 50 Cent and the Game have elevated it to an art form, pushing each other on to greater heights of deliriously entertaining egotism. The Dipset guys do it with a sort of giggly fourth-grade charm. Jay-Z does it with restrained, gentlemanly panache, dropping major hints but rarely going so far as to point fingers directly. And Lil Wayne became the newest member of the club when he went hog-wild in the new Complex cover story, firing shots at Jay-Z, Clipse, Pharrell, Young Buck, and I don't even know who else. A quick survey of the newsstands near the Voice offices didn't turn up any copies of the magazine, but Nah Right is nice enough to share the grizzly details. On Jay-Z: "I don't like what he's saying about how he had to come back because hip-hop's dead and we need him ... It's not your house anymore, and I'm better than you." On Clipse: "I don't see no fucking Clipse. This is a fucking legend you're talking to right here. How many years them ninjas been around?" No word yet on what he said about Young Buck, but Buck's been throwing shots for a while now, so it was only a matter of time before Wayne retaliated. The Clipse is pretty silly: it basically amounts to Wayne claiming that he, not Pharrell, made it cool to wear Bape; I can't imagine too many people really care about that. But the Jay-Z thing hits close to home, and it would be a lot easier to dismiss if it weren't true.

Wayne did something like this a couple of years ago, when he ended "Bring it Back" by saying, "Best rapper alive / Since the best rapper retired." At the time, the line was basically a joke. Wayne had gotten a lot better since his kiddie-rap days, but he wasn't getting near anyone's top ten list. As recently as last October, I wrote that "it would take a global apocalypse at the very least to make Lil Wayne the best rapper alive." This was widely seen as an attempt to endear himself to Jay; he was widely rumored to be moving from Cash Money to Roc-A-Fella, and he might've named his album The Carter to remind everyone that he shared a last name with Jay. On the first Dedication mixtape, Wayne confirmed that he'd been in negotiations with Jay, but he leveraged that buzz to get himself a better deal with Cash Money, becoming the figurehead president of the label that signed him when he was twelve or fifteen, depending on who you believe.

Wayne has improved at an unprecedented rate since then; on every new song, he sounds even more in love with the sound of his own voice, with all the different ways he can twist words into pretzels and spirals. He's putting out records at an absurdly prolific rate, jumping on everyone's remix and singlehandedly keeping the mixtape market interesting. I can't think of a single rapper these days who has anything like his combination of cartoonish confidence and total command of the English language. Wayne rarely gets sentimental, and he's not the type of rapper who spends a lot of time dwelling on anyone's struggle. Instead, he takes the rampant materialism in rap as a formalist challenge, finding as many ways as he can to play around within its rigid boundaries. And he's kept up with the "best rapper alive" stuff, explaining on Dedication 2 that it's not meant to take literally, that every rapper who takes his craft seriously should consider himself the best rapper alive. But he's also gone a long way toward proving that it isn't hyperbole.

His new mixtape, Lil Weezyana, is a great example. The tape should be a total throwaway; Wayne's using it to introduce his unbelievably boring Young Money crew, and the whole thing is badly paced and loaded down with a lot of monochromatic original tracks. With any other rapper, I'm not sure I could get through it once. But Wayne's bizarre hiccuping flow is completely on throughout, and I got tired trying to keep track of all the ridiculously great quotables he drops in the first five tracks alone. (Quick examples: "And a ninja drink like the late Fred Sanford / And a ninja smoke like there is no cancer / And I know this world is so cold and deceiving / But I keep my head up like my nose was bleeding," "I need vegetables / Is weed vegetables? / I passed commas; right now, I'm seeing decimals.") Wayne's ad-libs even makes his generic backup guys more interesting through the sheer force of their charisma. (Mac Maine: "Wayne said let it rain on 'em." Wayne, totally prim and matter-of-fact: "I did.") The mixtape also includes "I Like Dat," Wayne's oddly disarming olive branch to his former Cash Money labelmates: "It's something about the Hot Boys that you don't know / I got a lot of love for them that I don't show." Never mind that he and Juvenile were exchanging veiled death threats earlier this year; Wayne's the type of guy who can constantly contradict himself and turn himself into a more compelling figure in the process. (He's extended and retracted that exact same olive branch before, with "I Miss My Dogs" from The Carter and the flurry of dis tracks that followed.)

Jay has commanded that same attention for years, but he's a sad, desiccated husk of his former self on Kingdom Come, grumbling about young folk and bragging about being friends with Gwyneth Paltrow. He's lost edge, and Wayne has gained it. Lil Weezyana has Wayne's version of "Show Me What You Got," and it's scary how much sharper it is than Jay's fatuous, indolent original. Before Wayne told us he was better than Jay, he showed us. And when Jay descends from his mountain to proclaim his own massive importance, I can't blame Wayne for getting a little upset.

Voice review: Jon Caramanica on Lil Wayne & DJ Drama's Dedication
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First Bol says Jim Jones is the new king of NY and now you say Wayne is a better rapper then Jay? You bloggers crack me up.

No matter how you look at it I dont see how anyone can come to this conclusion. Whether its record sales, notority or songs, he's never come close to
Jay. Seriously, has Wayne ever had a hit song? I've liked a few of his songs (Bring It Back was a great song) but none of them could be considered more than marginal hits. The two Carter albums are decent but really overrated. They reason why people (you included) love them so much and rate the albums in your annual to 10 is more of an indictment on the state of hip hop then a confirmation that the albums are good.

Bottom line this is yet another publicity stunt by a rapper trying to get headlines by dissing a greater rapper and the hip hop media plays into again. Its comical. This is like the 6th rapper to come at Jay this year. I just hope Jay doesnt do some dumb shit and respond to him like he did Jim Jones.

Posted by: aholbert32 at December 5, 2006 7:12 PM

Tom, you've got it right here, unlike eskay of Nah right, who for some reason has decided to come out of the closet as either an employee of Def Jam of some sort of obstinate NY rap advocate. His dismissal of Wayne in his post today and yesterday (well, I guess he's not really dismissing him since he actually bothered to post about him at all) is one of the first times I've seen him actual come out and state an explicit opinion, no less one that is indefensible. Kingdom Come is so self-evidently terrible, I don't even know how you can't bemoan Jay's quarter or eighth -ass effort on the actual music, which is now obviously playing second fiddle to his newly minted, bono-of-rap type self-promotional enterprise.

Nah right is a THE site for hip hop news, and its biased, ny-centric news in a good way. But there's a difference between giving a news blog a personality and unapologetically backing a the biggest rapper in the world when he has completely left behind the reason he is the biggest rapper in the world: making great hip hop music. Jay-Z has all of a sudden become irrelevant to music, regardless if he goes platinum. Anybody with a critical cell in their body can tell that Kingdom Come is a cynical, lazy, boring-ass commodity.

In the scholarly discourse known as the Nah right comments section, eskay basically says Kingdom Come is a great album and Lil Wayne is bad because there is a picture of him kissing Baby on the mouth or something. To read that shit was depressing and i've lost a lot of faith in what was an essential blog.

Posted by: Furman P. Slothra at December 5, 2006 7:29 PM

*beats head into keyboard repeatedly*

Best Rapper Alive? I hadn't realized Rakim had died. Or Nas. Or Jay-Z. Or Eminem. Or Big Daddy Kane. Or Every Single Member of the Wu-Tang Clan. Or Kool Moe Dee. Or Melle Mel. Or KRS-One. Or Grandmaster Caz. Or Ice Cube. Or Common. Or LL. Or Chuck D. Or Redman. Or Andre 3000. Or Snoop. Or 2Pac for that matter.

Tom, you can't be serious and neither can Lil' Weezy. When I first heard and saw the cover of The Carter II last year, my first initial thought was "Wow! He's seriously biting Jigga's whole style, straight up." From the Best Rapper Alive bs and The Dynasty-esque Intro to the decidely New York flow to the straight up jack of the Blueprint cover, I was like "Does biting a man who is unapologetic about his biting make you a bizzare third generation shark biter and if so is Ghost and Rae going to dedicate a whole album to you?" The second thing that struck me was despite the fact that the album was suprisingly strong there were still lines of unimaginable wackness that seeped into it. The infamous "Dear Mr. Toilet" line springs to mind. Weezy since the album dropped is still prone to some lines that are just jaw droppingly wack and come straight outta of The Crunchy Black School of Lyricism: "I'm hot like light", "I'm well respected like bear claw(wtf?). Jay-Z despite making an album that is the worst of his career would never be that awful. So all in all, Weezy's statement that he is better than Jay-Z is just plain ridonkulous. Besides if you are going to include Jay's mediocre end of his career, you have to include Weezy's straight up wack beginning of his career in all discussions.

Besides, Weezy's metaphors are on a fourth grade level.

This message has been brought to you by the Association of 90's Rap Music Stans Against The Stanning For Lesser Rap Gods.

Posted by: DocZeus at December 5, 2006 7:35 PM

That's true Doc. Common's flow about hooded sweatshirts from the Gap is pretty hot. As long as he's spittin fire like that, he's got the edge on Weezy.

Posted by: BubsDepot at December 5, 2006 7:46 PM

How bout this line, Doc?

"I must be LeBron James if he's Jordan"

I understand why dudes would be hesitant to crown somebody with as little time tested material as Weezy "best rapper alive", but y'all refuse to recognize that being the best rapper alive in 1989, or 1993, or 1996 doesn't come anywhere close to guaranteeing that you're the best in 2006. Do y'all try to argue that Bill Russell is the best baller alive?

I'd like it as much as anybody if it turns out Jay's just wearin the 45 on Kingdom Come and he's still got some titles left in him, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: BubsDepot at December 5, 2006 8:06 PM

are we subsituting "ninja" for "nigga" now, or is wayne completely serious?

Posted by: j ordan at December 5, 2006 8:31 PM

Men Lie, women lie; numbers don't.
-Jay-Z

Posted by: bsimsphd at December 5, 2006 9:24 PM

"are we subsituting "ninja" for "nigga" now, or is wayne completely serious?"

^
Naw, that's just Breihan being weird.

"Best Rapper Alive? I hadn't realized Rakim had died. Or Nas. Or Jay-Z. Or Eminem. Or Big Daddy Kane. Or Every Single Member of the Wu-Tang Clan. Or Kool Moe Dee. Or Melle Mel. Or KRS-One. Or Grandmaster Caz. Or Ice Cube. Or Common. Or LL. Or Chuck D. Or Redman. Or Andre 3000. Or Snoop. Or 2Pac for that matter."
^
What have any of them (apart from maybe Ghostface) done for me lately?

Posted by: saturdayclub at December 5, 2006 10:05 PM

Did you have a breakthrough in therapy that it was Jay-Z and not your scuzzy uncle that touched you in your no-no place when you were eight years old? Because the only way I can take this hate for Kingdom Come while you big up all these trash rappers seriously is if it's personal.

Posted by: Melanism at December 5, 2006 10:06 PM

"What have any of them (apart from maybe Ghostface) done for me lately?"

I agree Lil' Wayne's Extorted Ghost Writer >>>>> Any rapper ever except Ghostface's recent material.

"That's true Doc. Common's flow about hooded sweatshirts from the Gap is pretty hot. As long as he's spittin fire like that, he's got the edge on Weezy."
Oh, that's just a cheap shot.

Posted by: DocZeus at December 5, 2006 10:32 PM

1. Common's Gap hoodies rap is the most virtuosic display of lexical prowess on an enormous gold peace sign in a TV ad I've heard in some time. Maybe GOAT status.

2. Who gives a shit if Wayne is lit up on vicodin and says he's better than Jay-Z in Mark Ecko's magazine about hoodies with rhinoceroses on them? Breihan couldn't even find the mag on the stands. All of a sudden this is important because rap blogs have co-opted it. And last time I checked, rappers don't read rap blogs, so this won't engender any 18 minute dis tracks or anything.

3. The "dear Mr. toilet" line is great. By anthropomorphizing the toilet and addressing him in epistolary form, Wayne has leveled the playing field between porcelain and people who write annual top ten lists on their rap blogs. But while polite and formal, his boast is so audacious as to tell Mr. Toilet that he (Wayne) is as hot and disgusting as fecal matter, the thing which defines his (Mr. Toilet's) existence. So by the supplementary angle theorem, Wayne is a better rapper than Jay-Z... or Debby Harry, or Zues (the god, not the blog commenter) for that matter.

Posted by: Furman P. Slothra at December 5, 2006 11:13 PM

"1. Common's Gap hoodies rap is the most virtuosic display of lexical prowess on an enormous gold peace sign in a TV ad I've heard in some time. Maybe GOAT status."

Although, I cringe everytime I see that Gap ad. Can somebody tell me the fundamental difference between rhyming about Gap hooded sweatshirts and rhyming about how nice your car is? At least, Common's being paid to advertise a product. Just something to think about it.

"So by the supplementary angle theorem, Wayne is a better rapper than Jay-Z... or Debby Harry, or Zues (the god, not the blog commenter) for that matter."

I would hope that any professional rapper would be better rapper than I am. Otherwise, I needs to get me a deal.

Posted by: DocZeus at December 6, 2006 12:50 AM

That's it. You're banned. Quit talking shit about Kingdom Come until you fucking sack up and write an article saying why you think it sucks and Jay is a "sad, desiccated husk of his former self."

Lil Wayne is nice, arguably one of the nicest currently relevant rappers out there, but to say he's better than Jay? Hyperbole doesn't even begin to cover it. That is utterly preposterous, and if you insist on repeatedly making these ridiculous statements, you should at the very least have the decency to explain the underlying supposition (that Jay's fallen off and Kingdom Come blows) that seems to be fueling your outrage.

Posted by: rjd at December 6, 2006 2:12 AM

Ah Doc, what you fail to realize is that Tom actually liked that Mr. Toilet line! He singled it out in fact for special praise once and called it... "a dazzling non sequitur," or something like that. However, he is right, Wayne is currently better than Jay. Music is like sports- if I say that Carmelo Anthony is a better player than Grant Hill, it's not that I think he's had a better career or that he compares favorably with Grant Hill at his best, but just that right now he's a better basketball player. And right now Wayne is a better rapper, based on the quality of what he puts out and what Jay puts out, though of course you can find quotable lines amidst that dreck, and there's a lot that Wayne has to improve on.

Posted by: tray at December 6, 2006 3:03 AM

i actually think that currency is pretty decent.

Posted by: j ordan at December 6, 2006 4:24 AM

you're credibility just flew the rest of the way out of the window. First "Jim Jones destroys Jay-z" and now you got the nerve to say Weezy is better than jay? wow.

You're past articles seemed to suggest that you had a pretty intelligent and authentic view of music in general, I always read SAH, I looked forward to it.

But this is absolutely inexcusable, You have such a 'consumeristic' surface level interpretation of of hip hop. Jim Jones didn't destroy Jay, Jay roped Jim into a battle to make him feel legitimate, like he won, right before the 680,000 first week album sales and unprecedented publicity and attention for Jay the likes of which Jimmy has never seen.
Jay's got Jim looking about 1 inch tall right now, 'ballin!' is dead and he's still a bummy ass burnout with no flow(albeit hilarious adlibs.) Jay won the battle underhadedly and ruthlessly, the way a Boss would win a battle, another unprecedented feat for Jay.

As for Weezy, please, I love him personally, but he is so obviously either ghostwritten for, or heavily coached by jigga. HE can't touch the charisma, lyricism, depth or flow of jigga at anytime in history. And if you argue against this you are basically disrespecting yourself, and your mom because she raised your peasy ass.

so show your mom some respect and retract your bozo bubblegum schoolgirl hip hop blog statements before I change my homepage!

Thanks for everything else though you do a very impressive job here!(not sarcastic)

Posted by: afterthedot at December 6, 2006 9:12 AM

Tom
I suggest you head on over to dallaspenn.com and fire back at Combat Jack, if you haven't already done so. You need to take him to task or your credibility will have taken a big hit.

SP

Posted by: SordidPuppy at December 6, 2006 12:15 PM

Speaking of "status ain't hood" ladies and gentlemen, Tom Breihan.


You show absolutely no taste or judgement about hip hop. You don't know the difference between good rap and bad rap.

You played yourself by trying to jump on the teeny bopper bandwagon.

I used to tell people to read your column, now I'll avoid it.

FAKER! YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED! NOW GO BACK TO CONNECTICUT!

Posted by: afterthedot at December 6, 2006 1:38 PM

Wow, a lot of you are upset with Tom because he likes lil wayne? That's pretty petty. TB isn't saying wayne is kicking 'knowledge' or is about to lead a bunch of backpackers to the glory land. (a library?) TB clearly states what Wayne is about, and if that doesn't suit you, big deal. Show me a rapper in the last year who has more punchlines and is more witty than Wayne and has a video on BET. Wayne is picking up where T.I. left off. Bringing a little wit and humour to a style of rap (coke rap in laments terms) that is ravaged with mediocrity. Jigga's catalogue can't be f'd with by Wayne right now, but it's 2007, so why dismiss Wayne because Jay-z was good in 1999? And for those of you claiming Tom played himself, or has bad taste, stop being rap nazi's. Tom likes rock, rap, teenybopper shit, so what? It's not like he says his opinion is the end all, and he also doesn't say he's a thug who robs banks with uzi's. As far as I can tell he's a skinny 30 something white guy who has liked rap for a long ass time and appreciates Wayne's lyricism. He writes what he thinks, if you don't agree, cool, but it doesn't mean your taste is better. Plus... you're stupid. ;)

Posted by: dallas1978 at December 6, 2006 3:31 PM

Here here Dallas! I thought blogs were about thinking aloud and such, but apparently some see s.a.h. as the new be all and end all. I think it is a testament to Tom's work/writing/opinion that people are getting very upset over one guys personal preference. And I totally agree with both Tom and Weezy, I don't think the world was in dire need of Kingdom Come. I didn't feel the earth shake up here....but I'm way up in Montreal, Canada....so what do I know anyway.

Posted by: lil Canuck at December 6, 2006 6:25 PM

It's not that he has bad taste, its that he jumped on a reactionary bandwagon which was led by 15 year olds. I love Lil Wayne and there is a place for Jim Jones, but the only reason Tom entertained the idea that they could be mentioned in the same breath as Jay was because thats what the highschool-fueled hip hop blogs were saying. He exposed himself as not having a deep understanding or appreciation of lyricism, just of allhiphop.com.

Jeru said it "Ya playin ya'self!" sucka...

common said it too "I used to love her"

Posted by: afterthedot at December 6, 2006 6:32 PM

Lil' Wayne is on point with his commentary; Jay-Z is actually the most overrated rapper alive or dead. Your post was helpful in that it really helped me to see how Lil' Wayne has improved by leaps and bounds. Jay-Z will never improve. He is a "cookie-cutter" rapper.

Posted by: Trey at December 6, 2006 9:23 PM

Fuck yes, Trey. Dead On!
Jay-Z is an business cat; he's not an good MC.

Posted by: dirty dish cloth at December 7, 2006 11:38 AM

Trey and Dirty Dish Cloth: Are you guys like 15 years old? Jay-Z's not cookie cutter. He's the cookie.

Posted by: Melanism at December 7, 2006 2:39 PM

WHAT YOU ALL FAIL TO REALIZE IS LIL WAYNE IS A KID AND JAY IS A GROWN ASS MAN SO WAYNE IS GOING TO RAP ABOUT YOUNGER SHIT THAT JAY DOESNT RAP ABOUT ANY MORE. NOW IF JAY GOT BACK ON HIS STREET SHIT HE WOULD SMASH WEEZY BUT BEING IN JAYS POSITION, WHAT WOULD HE LOOK LIKE TALKIN BOUT KILLIN NIGGZ AND ALL THAT GANG (BLOOD-DAMU) SHIT WEEZY BE TALKIN, NOW I LOVE BOTH THESE RAPPERS AND HAVE EVERYTHING EACH OF THEM EVER PUT OUT BUT THEY ARE IN TWO DIFFERANT PLACES IN THEIR LIVES AND THERE LYRICS ARE GOING TO REFLECT THAT. JAYS NEW ALBUM IS NOT CLOSE TO ANY OF HIS PRIORS BUT STILL BETTER THAN ALL OF WEEZYS PUT TOGETHER, ACTUALLY THE NEW ALBUM FROM HIM AND BIRDMAN IS BETTER THAN ALL HIS SOLO'S. SO WHO REALLY GIVES A SHIT BUT THEM.

Posted by: cameall at December 8, 2006 1:47 PM

First of all let me just point things out while most of yall tryin to clown wayne- he is hot. No he ain't been nominated for a grammy and all that other upscale biz but he is good. That's what alot of people fail to realize. I think alot of Northerners can't take it that a young boy southern bred just might rein. You must admitt the south is where its at. As far as Jay Z goes yes he's good, but he have not had a whole lot of good songs neither when he started out, but wayne actually is good and his flows are incredible. As far as the guy that talks about all the old great rappers yes they are good but they are in the past and lil wayne is the present. Yall can hate all you want say what you gotta say, but in my opinion lil wayne is what's up! Just like the rapper from Baton Rouge Lil Boosie and Webbie people don't really care for them because they speak the real and they bout what they be talkin bout. I bet most of yall that's postin these posts live in big fancy houses and all that , yall probably wouldn't even understand the struggle but yall wanna talk about what's rap, tell me, what's your definition of rap?

Get Ready 4 da Southern Take Over

Posted by: Chick from the South at December 8, 2006 1:52 PM

First of all let me just point things out while most of yall tryin to clown wayne- he is hot. No he ain't been nominated for a grammy and all that other upscale biz but he is good. That's what alot of people fail to realize. I think alot of Northerners can't take it that a young boy southern bred just might rein. You must admitt the south is where its at. As far as Jay Z goes yes he's good, but he have not had a whole lot of good songs neither when he started out, but wayne actually is good and his flows are incredible. As far as the guy that talks about all the old great rappers yes they are good but they are in the past and lil wayne is the present. Yall can hate all you want say what you gotta say, but in my opinion lil wayne is what's up! Just like the rapper from Baton Rouge Lil Boosie and Webbie people don't really care for them because they speak the real and they bout what they be talkin bout. I bet most of yall that's postin these posts live in big fancy houses and all that , yall probably wouldn't even understand the struggle but yall wanna talk about what's rap, tell me, what's your definition of rap?

Get Ready 4 da Southern Take Over

Posted by: Chick from the South at December 8, 2006 1:52 PM

First of all let me just point things out while most of yall tryin to clown wayne- he is hot. No he ain't been nominated for a grammy and all that other upscale biz but he is good. That's what alot of people fail to realize. I think alot of Northerners can't take it that a young boy southern bred just might rein. You must admitt the south is where its at. As far as Jay Z goes yes he's good, but he have not had a whole lot of good songs neither when he started out, but wayne actually is good and his flows are incredible. As far as the guy that talks about all the old great rappers yes they are good but they are in the past and lil wayne is the present. Yall can hate all you want say what you gotta say, but in my opinion lil wayne is what's up! Just like the rapper from Baton Rouge Lil Boosie and Webbie people don't really care for them because they speak the real and they bout what they be talkin bout. I bet most of yall that's postin these posts live in big fancy houses and all that , yall probably wouldn't even understand the struggle but yall wanna talk about what's rap, tell me, what's your definition of rap?

Get Ready 4 da Southern Take Over

Posted by: Chick from the South at December 8, 2006 1:52 PM

how do you call a cat who got were he's at by being a good rapper not a good rapper? he's a good rapper that put out a bad album. and until someone gets were he's at by being a good rapper you cant compare. also dont forget jay actualy did all the shit wayne talks about doing. i can verify being from maryland were this nigga did reeeel big thangs on the coke tip, wayne has no track record for the shit he talks.

Posted by: cameall at December 8, 2006 2:09 PM

i dont hate on wayne i actually love him , he's just not what he claims to be. and to respond to the the chick from the south, i do actually live in a nice house and i own one in gorgia to but i also just got of prison on multiple coke and weapons charges. i also think the south runs the rap game and i love it but niggzz just need to be happy they got out of the struggle and made somthin with they self. all this shit is just more black on black dumb shit. if i was either one of these dudes and i felt i had to get at someone it wouldnt be a brother and this is not a race issue cause my sons half white but we finally got a generation of wealthy young black men and we still wanna down and discredit each other and its sad. niggz need to grow up and look at the big picture.

Posted by: cameall at December 8, 2006 2:24 PM

HOW DO YALL JUDGE A RAPPER? BY HOW MUCH MONEY THEY GOT? HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN IN A GAME? WELL I ALWAYS JUDGE A RAPPER BY HOW HE EXPRESSES HIMSELF LRYICALLY. IT HAS TO BE ORIGINAL AND CATCHY. IN OTHER WORDS IT HAS TO BE IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN FEEL. NOW I MUST ADMIT, BACK IN THE DAYS, I DID NOT LIKE LIL WAYNE. I WAS A BIG FAN OF JAYZ. BUT NOW, I THINKG LIL WAYNE HAS JAYZ IN A HEAD LOCK AND IS DRAGGING HIM BY THE HEAD. LIL WAYNE HAS BETTER LYRICS AND THAT'S ALL THAT COUNTS. THE MONEY DOESN'T MATTER, HOW LONG YOU BEEN IN THE GAME DOES NOT MATTER. JAYZ IS NOT THE SAME AS HE USED TO BE. HE'S RUSTY. WHEN HE RETIRED, LIL WAYNE TOOK THE SPOT AND HE HAS DECLARED IT AND I BELIEVE HIM. LIL WAYNE IS HOT AND DONT GET ME WRONG, JAYZ IS ALRIGHT TOO, BUT LIL WAYNE IS BETTER NOW. NOW I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY JAYZ IS THE BEST RAPPER JUST BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS. BUT TAKE TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK RAP IS. ITS JUST A FORM OF POETRY SPOKEN ALOUD. YOU CANT TAKE WHAT IS SAID LITERALLY EITHER. FOR EXAMPLE: "DR. MR TOILET, IM THE SHIT." ONLY A DUMB ASS WOULD TAKE THAT LITERALLY. ITS A FORM A POETRY SO IT HAS A DEEPER MEANING. HE IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT HE'S HOT, HE THE SHIT, HE SHINNING OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT. SO BEFORE YOU SAY WHO THE BETTER RAPPER IS, YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU LOOK FOR IN A RAPPER. LIL WAYNE IS THE BETTER RAPPER, HE HAS BETTER LYRICS AND HE EVEN MAKES IT SOUND BETTER BOTTOM LINE. ESPECIALLY THAT VERSION OF JAYZ'S SONG SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT. HE SOUNDED BETTER THAN JAYZ ON HIS OWN SONG.

Posted by: lyricist at December 10, 2006 3:11 PM

>>In the scholarly discourse known as the Nah right comments section, eskay basically says Kingdom Come is a great album and Lil Wayne is bad because there is a picture of him kissing Baby on the mouth or something.


^I said nothing of the sort. Kingdom Come is a great album, in my opinion and thats all there is to it. Do I lose credibility for that opinion? Possibly. Do I give a fuck? You wouldn't believe how much I could care less. You think I'm gonna dis an album I enjoy just because every body else on the planet finds it too 'grown' or whatever absurd reason you people are using to hate on it this week? Get the fuck outta here. You people who are just now finding my blog after a year and half kill me with your fucking statements. I just decided to come out the closet as an obstinate NY rap advocate? You have to be kidding me, I've been one of those since day one.

You should also learn to comprehend what you read, because if you did, you would have noticed that I said in the post that I enjoy some of Wayne's music. As a matter of fact I had Carter 2 on my list of top 10 albums for this past year. Baffling isn't it? How can somebody enjoy Wayne and Kingdom Come at the same time?

Posted by: eskay at December 17, 2006 7:16 PM

"You lil' niggas ain't deep you dumb.
You niggas ain't gangsta, ya gum.
I chew lil' niggas,
'hawktu' spew lil niggas.
I can only view lil' niggas like lil' niggas....... unlike you, lil'
nigga, I'm a grown ass man.
Big shoes to fill, nigga, grown ass pants. Prolly hustle witcha pops, go ask ya parents. It's apparent your starin at a legend who put a few lil' niggas in they place before; tryna eat w/o saying they grace before..."

I'm guessing lil' Wayne is one of the "lil' niggas" Jay is refering to.

I'm late... so what... even if no one reads my comment, I had to let it be known that JayZ's newest album isn't "wack"... then again i guess if you never take the time to listen to it, you wouldn't know.

Posted by: Nakisha at January 9, 2007 3:17 PM

man u got to be crazy if you dont think wayne is the best rapper ever jay z cant compete wit wayne at all sit down and listen 2 mr carter jay couldnt even keep up. real talk weezy got this rap game on lock. what these rappers sayn today he done said. he can get on in song and make a part 2. he already a legend real talk i just dont see nobody meetn his standards. his flow so sick i gag when i here the punch lines. if u dont like weezy u haten or u crazy. i cant stand when somebody try 2 put anyone on his level. he the champ and yall can say jay z the number1 contender real talk. dis comen from T money wit a capital T I know music and I know wayne is the best there was the best there is and the best there eva will be real talk i dont know how he do it but he do it if u disagree slap me n my mouth when u see me cause im gone tell u straight up aint nobody i meen nobody doin it like him name a rapper any rapper he killenem. R.I.P to the rap game weezy killn it n gone keep killen it BYE

Posted by: trick works at September 5, 2008 6:49 PM

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