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Clipse: Back with Vengeance

By Tom Breihan, Wednesday, Feb. 6 2008 @ 6:22PM
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Tower of Pisa, leaning / In that late-model something, searching for life's meaning

Maybe not all rappers care about this; maybe not even most. But Clipse seems to exist specifically for that moment where the first time you're hearing a verse you can't quite believe what you're hearing, where you close your eyes and squinch your face up and maybe pound your fist against your steering wheel or your desk the empty subway seat next to you. Any number of reasons exist why we haven't heard from this group at length since 2006's Hell Hath No Fury: they've been touring, they've been figuring out their label situation, they've been reeling from the overwhelming commercial failure of HHNF. But I'd prefer to think they've been hunched over notepads somewhere, figuring out just how many ways they can still figure out to say that they used to deal drugs, obsessively rewriting their lines over and over. The Lil Wayne model where you record ten songs in a night and leak them all the next morning doesn't work for these guys. Every line on their new mixtape, (deep breath) We Got It 4 Cheap, Volume 3: The Spirit of Competition (We Just Think We Better), is a product of intense work. Lyrically, this thing is so dense it's almost exhausting, and I'm going to need a while to fully process the whole thing; even on my sixth or so listen, half the stuff on the later tracks still sails over my head. But that magic face-squinch moment happens over and over again.

This is the first Clipse tape that isn't really a Clipse tape; Ab-Liva and Sandman, the two Philly rappers who make up the Re-Up Gang along with Clipse's Malice and Pusha T, fully deserve their equal billing. Both of them have been getting better with every new mixtape, and by now both of them (Liva in particular) rival Malice and Pusha for deadly verbal economy. These guys are all gifted writers doing their best to impress and outdo each other, and the result is a pretty great example of why rap group efforts can work better than solo stuff. For me, the defining moment here is "Scenario 2008," the track where everyone just goes nuts over a stomping old Swizz Beatz posse-cut track, everyone sneaking at least one face-squinch moment into his verse. Liva: "I was once told, nigga, ignorance is bliss / I was busy counting money, how ignorant is this?" Pusha: "I pull from the ghosts of dead greats / Ouija board flow, all you niggas is dead weight." Sandman: "Hit you, rip you so they can't fix you / So the pastor preach Scripture / Turn you to a mantelpiece fixture." Mal: "Like Pearl Jam, I kill all of my peers like Jeremy / And here I am with open arms like Journey." Granted, that last line is sort of labored and cheesy. But "I kill all of my peers like Jeremy"? That's just fucking hilarious.

As soon as the thing went up online, Noz wrote a piece about how the whole thing is pretty much about commercial disappointment and how that commercial disappointment might lead them back into the activities they've always rapped about. Maybe he's right. Hell Hath No Fury is final proof that critical love has absolutely zero influence on record sales,at least as rap is concerned: a platinum group selling 80,000 copies of its a sophomore album widely considered to be its masterpiece. Still, I think it's instructive that most of the lost-career lamentations come from one member of the group: Malice: the older of the brothers in Clipse and the one getting no solo-career buzz. Mal's regret is palpable all over this thing. On "Good Morning": "I can't wait for Skateboard to save me / My house in default, his house paisley / He's not at fault, no, not vaguely / He's on a yacht somewhere with Jay-Z." It's that "somewhere" that gets me, Mal realizing he's a pet project of an eccentric superproducer who just has other things going on in his life. Elsewhere: "Truth be told, I've been feeling different lately / Like fuck money and the dollar is the devil's baby." On that same track, Mal explicitly lashes out at both Pharrell and Jive CEO Barry Weiss for not being any help. Pharrell, for his part, never shows up for a guest-verse the way he did a few times on Vol. 2, so maybe that bridge is burned, a mixed blessing at best for these guys. Whenever Pusha mentions record sales, he does it to prove that he's more of a street threat these days now that he can't count on rap money anymore: "I guess I caught a brick according to Soundscan / The critical acclaim was that of a proud man / Prepare for the worst, that blood's on Jive's hands / So when the Fury dropped, so did 80,000 grams / Add that to my 80,000 fans." Pusha is still looking for ways to make himself look like a crack-dealer superhero; Mal is just depressed.

But so yeah, the drug-talk still dominates this thing, and it just amazes me that these guys are still finding new ways to talk about a limited topic that they should've run into the ground many times over by now. Like, for instance, here's Pusha: "Since yay tall, I was MJG with the eightball / A living legend, I play them keys like Ray Charles." How has no one ever claimed to be MJG with the eightball yet? Or here's Mal on not snitching: "The law don't understand our troop / We don't never say shit, we the Blue Man Group." This is punchline-heavy stuff, but all those punchlines are dense and immaculately constructed, and they come in a constant barrage, delivered in perfectly enunciated matter-of-fact voices that betray no humor. Liva seems to be going on a literary-reference kick lately, following up on the "make all of her twist like Dickens" line from HHNF; here he namechecks Mario Puzo and Othello and claims to be (I love this) "like Ishmael with fishscale." On "Re-Up Intro," Pusha's distorted shouting intro is such a pitch-perfect imitation of Diddy's distorted-shouting intros that I have to wonder whether it's intentional. On the same track, he has a few words for new apparent foe Lil Wayne: "Sorry, but I don't respect who you applauding / Little nigga flow, but his metaphors boring / Don't make me turn daddy's little girl to orphan / That would mean I'd have to kill Baby like abortion." But it's just a quick jab, and he never comes back to Wayne. As soon as it's done, he's on to other topics, like how much coke he sells.

Time will tell if Vol. 3 comes close to equalling Vol. 2, one of my favorite-ever mixtapes. (A while back, I called Vol. 2 the "greatest mixtape of all time" in this space and got justifiably savaged in the comments section as a result. But it's still good enough to encourage that sort of breathless overstatement.) God knows Vol. 3 isn't perfect. Everyone sounds a little hesitant over "Rainy Dayz," like they revere the original too much to go too nuts on it. One sung hook from Ab-Liva is one too many. And sure, the constant vivid and amoral coke-talk can start to feel a little demoralizing, especially when the group seems so defensive about it. (Check the skit where Pusha complains about a "tree-huggin'-ass bitch" telling him to rap about other stuff.) But the early part of this year has been a depressingly barren one for rap; too many more weeks like that and I would've had to resort to writing about the new Yak Ballz album or some shit. And so this mixtape feels like an oasis: four great writers reasserting their dominance after withstanding a devastating commercial blow, stealing great beats and making them their own. And hey, maybe this Wayne thing will turn into something.

Voice review: Zach Baron on Clipse's Hell Hath No Fury
Voice review: Nick Sylvester on the Clipse's We Got It 4 Cheap, Volume 2

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Comments (26)

Gabriel Herrera says:

Tom, a lot of the time your blog pisses me off. Too often do I have to deal with your pretentious bullshit. This article, however, was excellent. It made me go listen to this tape again, even though I have already been through it a few times. Good work.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 6 2008 @ 7:32PM
The Future says:

Tom, don't let the haters get to ya. We Got It 4 Cheap Volume 2 is one of the greatest mixtapes of all time. A quick question: are the Soundbombing albums considered mixtapes? What about the Lyricist Lounge albums?

As for WGI4C V3, it's fucking sweet. I really like the intro track, though it's not as good as Volume 2's intro - possibly my favorite Clipse track.

If Pharell is no longer the 'sometimes Y' in the group, I'm gonna be disappointed. Skateboard P's starting to get decent at this rap thing, plus I'm still holding out for a Clipse track that recaptures the fun swagger of "Ego" from the first album.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 6 2008 @ 7:33PM
MK says:

There's another mention of Wayne on Show You How To Hustle: "The wind blow, it come and go, I'm hurricane/Listen again, I hurry cane, don't make me come to Miami and bury Wayne." There might be another one but I can't remember at the moment, and I'm with you on hoping it turns into something. Great mixtape, even if I could do without Fuck You.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 6 2008 @ 9:42PM
Government Names says:

The "kill all of my peers like Jeremy" line is ridiculous because it makes no sense. Kid was a suicide, not a murderer!

Hell Hath sold 80k in its first week, total sales were over 200. Also, I don't think Noz said there was any chance in hell they're actually going to deal drugs again (if they ever did), just that it's naive to think that no matter how many times they imply it.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 6 2008 @ 11:06PM
cholley brick says:

Clipse are booooooring! I still ride for Lord Willin', perhaps the best produced hip-hop album this side of The Chronic. But although HHNF had its moments (Wamp Wamp, Chinese New Year) it was probably the most overrated album of the last five years. Or at least second most after that Sound of Silver bullshit.

The Clipse aren't saying anything about the dope game that Jay didn't say better on Reasonable Doubt. They're not saying anything about the perils of being young black males in America that Nas didn't say better on Illmatic. Truth be told, the Clipse aren't saying much of anything. That's why real hip-hop heads ain't really checking for them. But as long as they keep delivering their stale ass crack rhymes, infatuated indie-rock bloggers pretending to love hip-hop will continue to cream their pants for them.

Posted On: Wednesday, Feb. 6 2008 @ 11:48PM
Colin C. says:

Yo,

Time will tell? I could tell after skimming the first few seconds of each song that this won't touch Vol. 2--the production and beat selection alone isn't on the same level.

Skits are terrible.

I love Clipse from the bottom of my heart but they sound hurt and desperate on this one, don't they?

Ab Liva's cool but him shutting up a little more wouldn't hurt things...

Overall, the Clipse are known for their tight flawless sound, from production to lyrics to delivery. The production and delivery as well as the songwriting (not lyrics but structure) aren't as tight as they have been in the past.

Hey its just a mixtape though right?

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 1:36AM
Adam Hoff says:

Great post. Pusha's verse on Scenario is the best thing I've heard in a long time.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 2:52AM
Brian says:

"Mal's regret is palpable all over this thing. On "Good Morning": "I can't wait for Skateboard to save me / My house in default, his house paisley / He's not at fault, no, not vaguely / He's on a yacht somewhere with Jay-Z.""

"Everyone sounds a little hesitant over "Rainy Dayz," like they revere the original too much to go too nuts on it."

What you mistake for "Good Morning" is actually Malice on "Rainy Dayz."

Good job otherwise.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 4:55AM
shomi@tmail.com says:

Oh my god, this mixtape is the greatest! I can't wait to see live performing this!

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 7:35AM
blackleg says:

If you're looking for literary references, then Malice's "prolific like W.E.B.DuBois" steals it for sheer awesomeness. And I agree, he does sound a bit down in the dumps, particularly in "Good Morning": "... I find it so hard to keep my head up," etc...

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 11:07AM
The Music Director, WWIB says:

1) I'll ride with "Cheap Vol. 2" & enthusiasm in general.

2) However... I did not really understand "HHNF" hype and especially its gimmick-laden production. Boot Camp Click (among other groups) slaughtered 'em on all levels.

3) Compare "B.L.O.W." and "Dear Lord" on Rick Ross "Rise To Power," which is mostly really, REALLY good. For those who haven't heard yet, check it out. If ya'll don't know, this also compares Pusha T and... Scarface.

best,

The Music Director
Who Walk In Brooklyn

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 1:02PM
b dollar says:

on show you how to hustle, pusha says another line toward wayne:

rotate them chickens like a weather vain/
the wind blow, it come and go, i'm hurricaine/
listen again, i hurry caine/
don't make me come to mi-ami and bury wayne

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 1:05PM
jordan s says:

the wind blow, it come and go, i'm hurricaine/
listen again, i hurry caine/

^^this shit is the worst, along the lines of jeezy's "im the snowman cuz i got that snow, man" bs

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 4:13PM
The Future says:

ATTENTION

There is multiple copies of this album circulating. If you've got the one without DJ Drama screaming all over it, know this:

- Rainy Dayz, Good Morning, Roc Boys, and Show You How To Hustle are mislabeled. Swap Rainy Dayz and Roc Boys, and swap Good Morning and Show You How To Hustle.

- The tracks are unmixed, so they don't sound 100%

Get the version with Drama on it. Yes, mixtape DJs are annoying. Also, this version doesn't have the tracks labeled. But the music quality is so much better. Colin C., pick this up before you dismiss this album.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 4:18PM
say what? says:

posting to reply at cholley brick comment...

You say HHNF had moments such as wamp wamp & chinese new year? those where probably the weakest tracks on that album. you need to have a closer listen at nightmares, keys open doors & mama im so sorry. if you like lyric driven hip-hop instead of beat driven, then you will fuckin love HHNF.

Oh btw, WGI4C vl.3 is one of the best mixtapes out in years. go listen to that "cry now", tracks like that lets you know that hip-hop lives & Re-up gang is the reason its living.

No wayne.

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 6:15PM
Joel W says:


Awesome article

1) Wordplay is ridiculous - The fact that people are pulling up the lines that I've been reading and that's only skimming the top shows how much these guys have to give as artists

2) Yeah they sound hurt but they're still capturing the passion that comes with being artists - putting in this mixtape you can't expect some happy bullshit that will cheer up your day - what you can expect is intensity and quick fire word play that leaves you shaking your head

Overall, good stuff to keep the people excited for '08

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 7:15PM
bigphil says:

First off I admit I'm a fiend for their shit... I've listened to the mixtape at least 10 times since I got it two days ago. Say what you want, I don't know anyone who could keep this same subject manner going for years now and still keep it fresh. Their attitude, the swagger, the way they ride the beats, no one's approach is like the reup gang. Yeah, this one was quite depressing but they still brought it hard. The punchlines are never ending, i've yet to listen to the whole thing and not notice something new. I honestly can't wait for the Reup gang album... even if it doesn't come till 2010 ha ha

Posted On: Thursday, Feb. 7 2008 @ 10:39PM
Chris says:

Say what?

Yeah, I didn't quite understand that post about HHNF having its moments with Wamp Wamp, and Chinese New Year. Maybe he was saying because of those 2 tracks, it's overrated to call it a complete album.

I've listened to HHNF hundreds of times. Everytime i listen to it front to back, I skip 2 tracks every time. Wamp Wamp, and Chinese New Year.

I've only made it thru WGI4CV3 about 5 times, so I'm still out on this one. Just like watching The Godfather... the review put it perfectly... each new time you listen to it, you pick something new up. Even on the hundredth listen.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 8 2008 @ 2:06PM
Anonymous says:

peep prodigy's HNIC 2 advance.


first 2 cuts are AMAZING, new world order-type ish.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 8 2008 @ 3:12PM
CLIFF says:

WGI4CVol #3 is the best mixtape i've heard since vol.2 hands down! I disagree with tom as far as liva & sandman getting better each tape! I think you listen a little closer each tape, taking more to notice Tom!! if anything liva & sandman {especially} made the v.a. brothers get sharper lyrically! These guys have carried the clipse back into the spotlite! Am i the only person who notices how much better the clipse have gotten since the addition of Sandman? HHNF lasted all but 2 or 3 months buzz wise & WGI4Cvol.1 DATPIFF.COM has a solo sandman mixtape called PHILADELPHIA EGO! you can download it for free! 1 listen & you'll know instantly..where all the new swagg,lyrics & flows come from! Im convinced now that beyond exposure,there is no comparing sandman & the clipse! He is a better all around emcee,very versatile & within 3 mixtapes he proves this! DON'T DOWN PLAY THE SANDMAN AKA THE ANCHOR OF THIS RE-UP GANG MOVEMENT.
sand & clipse in any area,

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 8 2008 @ 4:38PM
ondioline says:

Gov't Names:

I haven't heard this track, but I had the same reaction you did until I read Tom's quote again. I obviously don't know how they meant it, but the second time I took it as 'Jeremy' the song, not Jeremy the kid, as in Pearl Jam killed their peers when they released that song. It fits with the "Open Arms" -> Journey namecheck after it.

And it fits with Pearl Jams continued towering greatness...

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 8 2008 @ 5:20PM
tray says:

Is this really that good? I don't know. Punchlines don't equal lyricism for me. If you say you're "like" someone or something 20 times a song, you're not a lyricist. You're just clever (if that). That's the difference between say, Nas and a Jadakiss.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 8 2008 @ 6:55PM
Colin C. says:

The Future:

Aight, thanks.

I'll try to find a better copy, I was wondering why the quality sounded so terrible...

C

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 8 2008 @ 7:49PM
the blackest says:

the clipse are the realest mcs in the game.yes they may keep the same subject matter,but it never sounds old or generic.they constantly grow and better their craft and keep it true to themselves they dont try to be someone that they are not.

Posted On: Friday, Feb. 8 2008 @ 11:57PM
Eddie says:

Doesn't the cover look like they got it for cheap?

Posted On: Tuesday, Feb. 12 2008 @ 4:00PM
FREDDIE says:

SANDMAN AKA THE CLIPSE NEW SWAGGER! I AIN'T MAD @ THEM BUT REAL IS REAL..THEY CAN'T FUCK WITH SANDMAN.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 10 2008 @ 3:54AM

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