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Preview: Bun B's New Album II Trill

Posted by Tom Breihan at 4:27 PM, March 5, 2008

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We going hard in the paint like Carmelo...

Talib Kweli showed up for last night's Bun B album listening party. So did, I think, Fab 5 Freddy and DJ Premier (or at least two dudes who looked a whole lot like those guys). I can't imagine these NY rap luminaries showing up to support virtually any other Southern rapper: maybe Scarface or OutKast or Devin or a reunited Goodie Mob, almost certainly nobody else. But Bun was one of those guys who effortlessly demands total respect even before Pimp C, his partner, suddenly died a few months ago. On his best days, there's no better rapper working today. On his worst, he's still somewhere in the top ten. His timing is impeccable, his writing is vivid, and his voice communicates a gravity that can't be replicated. Sharing a room with this guy for the second evening running was a humbling affair. Addressing the crowd assembled crowd last night, Bun was humble and appreciative, and while the album was playing, he took care to talk to every last person in the room, like a born politician. I can't quite overstate the shock of hunching over and scribbling on a notepad and then realizing that Bun B is standing over you, asking how you're doing and if you're getting your drink on. This was an especially fancy listening party: good catered food, free expensive drinks, an incongruously glitzy Times Square top-floor room with disco balls everywhere. Bun's got Zune paying for all this crap these days, and a TV screen above the stage played the same two Zune ads on a continuous loop all night. Parties like these never exactly provide a great context to hear an album for your first time, since music inevitably sounds different coming from those club or studio speakers than it will in your car or on your iPod (ideally, in this case, the former) a few months later. And it was especially bad here, since more of the crowd was obviously there to schmooze than to actually hear the album. The speakers last night were oddly shitty, burying Bun's verbiage in bass and making it all but impossible to understand his words. But I can say with some certainty that II Trill is a truly solid album, a slight improvement on the first Trill and a nice little DVD extra to Underground Kingz.

II Trill was mostly done before Pimp died, and it sounds like it. If Bun was really worried about carrying on the UGK tradition here, he'd have made a total depressive slow-churn long-player. But no: II Trill doesn't take a whole lot of risks, and it's clear Bun wasn't trying to make anything other than an accessible and thorough solo album. There's no explicit Pimp tribute until near the end. (That's unless you're counting "Pop It for Pimp," the pretty good club-rap collab with the Trill Ent. crew, which is the different kind of explicit.) The eventual Pimp tribute, "Angel in the Sky," has to contend with a sickly beat and a rote R&B chorus, but I still can't wait to hear it in a situation where I can actually make out everything Bun's saying; nobody does wrenching like that guy. The rest of the time, Bun goes hard but stays away from introspection. We don't get a moment like his powerfully candid and insightful UGK memoir "The Story" from the first Trill. Instead, he's mostly just talking about how hard he is, and that's fine. The first third of the album is especially strong, a near-unbroken string of total bangers, his producers doing streamlined versions of Pimp's woozy funk production. (Clinton Sparks and Chops, in particular, come through here.) In this context, even the first single, the kind of inadvisable Sean Kingston/JR Rotem collaboration "That's Gangsta" doesn't sound too bad, though it probably helps that they were playing it really loud in that room. After those first few tracks, the inevitable club-songs and girl-songs start up, and those songs generally work pretty well on their own terms. Bun brings a strident forcefulness to everything he does, and the album is programmed so the beats slide into each other fairly seamlessly, which helps. Producers like Scott Storch and Jazze Pha, guys I usually can't stand, dial back their most irritating tics. And even if I'm not particularly interested in hearing Bun tell some chick that it ain't a thang to buy her some Vera Wang, those tracks generally come with gut-rumble bass, which generally convinces me to forgive a lot. The last third gets more serious, Bun detailing various societal ills and calling out police and politicians. None of this strays far from what you'd expect to hear Bun saying, but it's all done efficiently and with conviction.

There's not a single New York rapper on II Trill, which makes the appearance of all those NY rap dudes even more telling. And whereas the massive all-Houston posse cut remix of "Draped Up" from the first Trill was one of the defining moments of the circa-05 Texas rap takeover, Bun doesn't waste any time trying to recapture that on this one. The only Texas rappers who show up are Pimp, appearing posthumously, and the Bun's Mddl Fngz crew, whose one spotlight song is OK. (Z-Ro and Chamillionare also make appearances, but they're singing hooks, not rapping.) A whole lot of guest-rappers do show up on II Trill, but it's a well thought-out lineup. Bun trades verses with Lil Wayne on "Damn I'm Cold," a song I can't wait to hear again. 8Ball & MJG and Young Buck and David Banner all have good moments. On one particularly heavy bounce-track, Lupe Fiasco gets a chance to justify all the talk that he grew up listening to Southern rap instead of Tribe, and he acquits himself admirably. Even with all the guests, though, this is Bun's show, and that guy is basically a national treasure at this point. He can keep making records like this for the rest of his life and never record another masterpiece and I'll be happy.

comments

you pretty much nailed it.

Posted by: eskay at March 5, 2008 5:49 PM

I want to hear this album bad. Bun B can do no wrong and with Chamillionaire and CHOPS on this project I know it can not be wrong!

Posted by: Radimus at March 5, 2008 8:45 PM

Man, I'm a Texas dude and I been down with Pimp and Bun since day one. Still, I can't help but feel that your constant sack-riding of Bun is a little strange. Don't get me wrong, dude is a legend with an impeccable discography and more street cred than a slaveship full of Young Jocs. He deserves every bit of success he gets. But the way you fawn over every burp that escapes his lips is bothersome. Bun is nice, but you overrate him. You truly seem to suggest that Bun is the greatest living southern rapper (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm sorry, but unless Scarface, Andre 3000, Ceelo, Big Boi, 8Ball, MJG and Lil Weezie all died in a horrible plane crash that I didn't hear about yesterday, Bun's on the list but he ain't at the top.

Reading your reaction to the listening party it seemed as if you were trying to find every way possible to not say that the album sucks. I understand. It's hard to dog a hero. Personally, I hope "II Trill" is more than just Bun trying not to make "anything other than an accessible and thorough solo album". Bun has a classic inside of him if he's willing to say "fuck the sales" the way Scarface has done with his last two albums ("The Fix" and "Made" are two of the best examples of straight ahead, street level, no frills down south rap ever). One day, Bun will give us his "Made" but this one doesn't sound like it.

Posted by: cholleybrick at March 5, 2008 9:34 PM

Yeah, I would strongly dispute the claim that "on his best days there's no better rapper working today." Granted, there aren't many (any?) good rappers working today, but Bun is way past his tongue-twisting prime. Just compare something like "Murder" or his guest appearance on that one Hot Boys album (Get It How You Live, I think) to pretty much anything he's done in the past three years and you'll see a big difference. He's still good but he isn't great anymore.

Posted by: Tray at March 6, 2008 1:24 AM

lets listen to the album when it releases before we start jumping to conclusions and sayin Bun b is the greatest or isnt that great anymore.

Posted by: Marcopolo at March 6, 2008 3:11 AM

Definetly top 10, if not top 5 voices ever in hip hop. And I dont mean that in a figurative way, I mean his literal voice. Top 5 southern rappers of all time? Definetly, but he's closer to number 5 than 1. But yeah, he's still a national treasure.

Posted by: b-ease at March 6, 2008 1:01 PM

"Scarface, Andre 3000, Ceelo, Big Boi, 8Ball, MJG and Lil Weezie"

If you think Lil Wayne is better than Bun, you are an asshole. Cee-lo doesn't rap anymore. Andre 3000 raps three times a year. Big Boi, 8Ball, MJG -- all function better in a group. (As does Bun, but all their respective solo projects are not much better than the first Trill album).

Posted by: snacks at March 6, 2008 6:33 PM

I found a song a couple of years ago tilted "money" from a rap gang named "Street Kingz" album was possibly named "Crown Game". Can you help me find it?
Send me an email if you know anything.

Posted by: Krunch at March 7, 2008 8:15 AM

THis is HIIIIIIILLLLAAARIOUS! So long as I live, I won't understand why intellectuals and White folks think that this music is so freakin deep. This is why I could never date a White guy. If you think I'm gonna sit around with a White dude and hear the soundtrack to my people's destruction, peppered with the "N" word.

Wake-Up Call: most of the shit these rappers talk about is A) a lie and B) not healthy for you to listen to.

Posted by: Sister Toldja at March 7, 2008 2:52 PM

Bun is a solid rapper, but Wayne right now is more skilled than him, easily.

Posted by: Trey Stone at March 7, 2008 3:23 PM

"If you think Lil Wayne is better than Bun, you are an asshole."

Dude, I'll be that asshole all day. Wayne can rap circles around Bun. If you can't see and hear that, then you've probably lost all ability to deal with the world in a realistic way. Go see a shrink. Also, if you're gonna tell me you seriously think Bun is better than 3000 and Ceelo just because they don't rap as much any more, I'll pray for you. By that theory, I guess MIMs is better than Biggie.

Posted by: cholleybrick at March 7, 2008 8:11 PM

"Wake-Up Call: most of the shit these rappers talk about is A) a lie and B) not healthy for you to listen to."

You're right. There's no poverty in the ghetto. No one ever suggests drugs as a way to success. There have never been guns shot inside American cities. There are not disproportionate numbers of black men in prison. There is not a strain of violent misogyny encoded into larger American culture. Drug dealers are not morally conflicted individuals, they're one-dimensional evil caricatures. There's nothing interesting or worth discussing in any hip-hop being made today.

And ain't no cars in Houston with candy paint either.

Posted by: Hoosteen at March 7, 2008 10:35 PM

i'll admit i'm not so familiar with Cee-Lo, but as of now, Lil Wayne > 'Dre > Bun as far as overall technique. believedat.

Posted by: Trey Stone at March 8, 2008 1:13 AM

I'm sorry for even posting anything here, I forgot that the majority you started listening to hip-hop when you were 22 because people who rave about Belle and Sebastian CDs wrote favorable reviews of Dedication 2. My apologies.

Posted by: snacks at March 8, 2008 3:57 PM

lawlz

Posted by: Trey Stone at March 8, 2008 7:21 PM

Mane first off show respect to a man who lost his other half to a man who defines what a rapper from the south should sound like and carry himself like Bun-B is Now the Number 1 rapper in the game by far yeah Lil Wayne hot but he aint even close to as real as B.G. is to me and another thang Wayne is all show now and no street probably never was listening to the Real Hot Boys Juvi B.G. and Turk

Posted by: Bullet at March 10, 2008 12:08 PM

Tom Breihan's comments section: catnip for assholes.

Posted by: Jayson Greene at March 10, 2008 2:17 PM


8 Preview Snippets from II TRILL:

http://sharebee.com/bad3b7e5

Posted by: UGK4life at March 11, 2008 11:25 AM


They leaked "Damn I'm Cold" featuring Lil Wayne, in advance of the album release!


http://www.mediafire.com/?dlcwjz1mgvj

Posted by: Gee Stax at May 9, 2008 8:20 AM

"Sister Toldja" or whatever your name is you obviously aren't being objective or merely haven't been privy to experience some of our inner cities. I will agree that there is a lot of "popcorn" music as with all genres but there is a realism that comes along with the music. Please believe that I've seen and lived thru the drive bys, drug deals on church corners, quarter waters, air jordans, project and fake a$$ "sister souljas" that are from Bubblegum, W. VA and took one social course and college and suddenly grew an opinion. And that just coming from a successful Morehouse Man from the hood! They're plenty more like me that can separate the realism in the music from the boasting and braggin. Try it!

Posted by: Charles at May 16, 2008 2:39 PM

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Posted by: gwokr shcki at December 24, 2008 8:36 AM

Bun B album Trill and IITrill is blazin with Southern rap tunes. People need to recognize real talent when they see it. I am so tired of people not giving credit to Texas rappers but yet they want to copy them. I am talking about other hip hop artist mimicing southern rappers. T-pain made a song called Chopped and Skrewed but he doesn't no anything about that at all. Bun B cd is more then good. Your Everything is fire. He defintely did his thing on That's Gangster. All of his songs have that Southern beat that makes you wanna bob your head. Much love and respect to you . UGK for life. Texas stand up.

Posted by: Jala at January 19, 2009 6:19 PM

I got almost all of UGK and Bun B and Pimpcs stuff. Give this man the credit that he deserves for real. I am a huge fan since day one from Pocket full of stones to front back and all of UGK music to there independent projects. Don't sleep on the south becaus e you might miss the next best thing. I am Texas born Tx raise. The south can't be touched.

Posted by: Jala at January 19, 2009 6:24 PM

I got almost all of UGK and Bun B and Pimpcs stuff. Give this man the credit that he deserves for real. I am a huge fan since day one from Pocket full of stones to front back and all of UGK music to there independent projects. Don't sleep on the south becaus e you might miss the next best thing. I am Texas born Tx raise. The south can't be touched.

Posted by: Jala at January 19, 2009 6:24 PM

I got almost all of UGK and Bun B and Pimpcs stuff. Give this man the credit that he deserves for real. I am a huge fan since day one from Pocket full of stones to front back and all of UGK music to there independent projects. Don't sleep on the south becaus e you might miss the next best thing. I am Texas born Tx raise. The south can't be touched.

Posted by: Jala at January 19, 2009 6:25 PM

FUCK YOU BITCH NIGGAS I LIVE IN LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND AND IMA NAS FAN 4 LIFE (BEEN DOWN SINCE '93) BUT ILL BE DA FIRST 2 ADMIT THAT BUN B IS THE MUTHAFUCKIN SHIT AND WAS MAKIN FUCKING CLASSIC RECORDS BEFORE SOME OF YOU FAGGOTS WERE EVEN BORN. FOR FUCK'S SAKE LISTEN TO SUPER TIGHT, RIDIN DIRTY, UNDERGROUND KINGZ AND/OR UGK 4 LIFE AND TELL ME DIS CAT AIN'T THAT NIGGA IMO HE IZ BETTER THAN OUTKAST (I LISTEN TO AQUEMINI MORE THAN ANY UGK LP THOUGH) AND 8BALL & MJG IF YALL FAGGOT NIGGAS DONT AGREE WELL YOU CAN BURN IN HELL RIGHT NEXT TO HITLER (GERMANY BOMBED THE UK NON-STOP IN 1940 SO I HATE THOSE BITCH NIGGAS REAL TALK I WANNA FUCKIN KILL A GERMAN HO AND DRAG HER IN THE FOREST LIKE EMINEM)

AYO I REALLY ENNJOY STATUS AINT HOOD AND I WISH TOM BREIHAN THE BEST OF LUCK IN WHATEVA THE NIGGA DOES HES MY FAVORITE NIGGA ON THE INTERNET BY FAR

NOZ
BOL
ESKAY
SO MANY SHRIMP
BRANDON SODERBERG
PASSION OF THE WEISS

ALL OF THESE NIGGAS SUCK COMPARED TO BREIHAN

Posted by: ENGLAND'S BIGGEST NAS FAN at August 13, 2009 12:38 AM

FUCK YOU BITCH NIGGAS I LIVE IN LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND AND IMA NAS FAN 4 LIFE (BEEN DOWN SINCE '93) BUT ILL BE DA FIRST 2 ADMIT THAT BUN B IS THE MUTHAFUCKIN SHIT AND WAS MAKIN FUCKING CLASSIC RECORDS BEFORE SOME OF YOU FAGGOTS WERE EVEN BORN. FOR FUCK'S SAKE LISTEN TO SUPER TIGHT, RIDIN DIRTY, UNDERGROUND KINGZ AND/OR UGK 4 LIFE AND TELL ME DIS CAT AIN'T THAT NIGGA IMO HE IZ BETTER THAN OUTKAST (I LISTEN TO AQUEMINI MORE THAN ANY UGK LP THOUGH) AND 8BALL & MJG IF YALL FAGGOT NIGGAS DONT AGREE WELL YOU CAN BURN IN HELL RIGHT NEXT TO HITLER (GERMANY BOMBED THE UK NON-STOP IN 1940 SO I HATE THOSE BITCH NIGGAS REAL TALK I WANNA FUCKIN KILL A GERMAN HO AND DRAG HER IN THE FOREST LIKE EMINEM)

AYO I REALLY ENNJOY STATUS AINT HOOD AND I WISH TOM BREIHAN THE BEST OF LUCK IN WHATEVA THE NIGGA DOES HES MY FAVORITE NIGGA ON THE INTERNET BY FAR

NOZ
BOL
ESKAY
SO MANY SHRIMP
BRANDON SODERBERG
PASSION OF THE WEISS

ALL OF THESE NIGGAS SUCK COMPARED TO BREIHAN

Posted by: ENGLAND'S BIGGEST NAS FAN at August 13, 2009 12:38 AM

bun b is a legend... been around for ages

Posted by: hip hop honeys at September 19, 2009 11:11 AM

ima say yay ugk sup.chamilitary mayne ur flu spit n flu cough.its lyk a fast forward u b da best.pimp-c u stil in da s0uth syd.bun-b ugk is lyk ur tag g. um at south of da map welcum 2 it h0miez.south africa

Posted by: SICK-THE-DUDE at November 7, 2009 4:35 PM

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