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by Tom Breihan | email: tbreihan@villagevoice.com

Indie-Rap Survives the Crash

Posted by Tom Breihan at 2:49 PM, May 2, 2008

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I miss Pen & Pixel

Last year was a bad year for rap, but at least a few people got to put out albums. We're in the fifth month of 2008, and the first thoroughly solid major-label rap album, the Roots' Rising Down, only just hit stores on Tuesday. Nobody's making any money anymore, and labels are habitually pushing records back until they get the vaguest indication that the things might move a couple of copies; I'm already looking forward to the third straight fourth-quarter deluge. These days, practically every working rapper considers himself a scrappy underdog whose label doesn't understand him, and that includes relative commercial titans like 50 Cent. But rap albums are still coming out; they're just coming out on indies that know better than to commit actual money to marketing these things. A whole left-behind generation of mid-90s NY rappers and their stylistic descendants are now shifting indie, releasing low-overhead product to devoted fanbases and realizing that their chances for crossover stardom are over. And considering the surprising number of comments-section denizens requesting that I say something about Guilty Simpson's Ode to the Ghetto, these guys are doing something right, so let's have a look.

Guilty Simpson owes his career to his J. Dilla connection, which, combined with his Stones Throw contract, probably means he's got more in common with old Rawkus-era notions of indie-rap than anyone else on this list. As a rapper, though, Guilty is a total everythug, rapping in a turgid and deliberate monotone and swinging back and forth between garden-variety tough-talk and conversational slice-of-life stuff (jealous girlfriends are a particular fixation). He's a solid rapper, and sometimes he comes with a really nice little turn of phrase ("To get paid some, go to every extreme / One black'll leave another red for green"), but I probably wouldn't pay this guy much mind if he was rapping on tinny mixtape-rap beats. But there's a pleasant dissonance in hearing him rap instead over the miasmic psyche-rap beats of Stones Throw's stable of Dilla acolytes like Black Milk and Madlib. The appeal of Ode to the Ghetto goes beyond novelty; it turns out that half-asleep gun-talk actually sounds pretty great over flanged-out guitars and falling-apart horns and evil robotic 80s movie synths. I especially like "Footwork," where Guilty's unimpressed sneer sinks easily and naturally into Oh No's dementedly vwerping homemade electro. But I can't help but notice how completely Sean Price hijacks "Run." Unlike Guilty, P never lets you forget how much he loves rapping; delivering his intricately constructed punchline-rap, he's just deliriously amped. I can't help but wonder what might've happened if Price, rather than a journeyman like Guilty, had an album full of beats like these.

Buckshot, Price's Boot Camp Clik compadre, had that same fire in his soul until pretty recently, and he still regularly summons it onstage, at those great NY BCC shows when at least half the crew reliably shows up regardless of whose name is on the bill. Consider Buck's turn on "And So," from BCC's 2002 group album, one of the great incensed performances from a rapper who knows exactly how underappreciated he is. Over the past few years, though, the Boot Camp Clik have solidified a decent little underground following, and Buck, in particular, seems completely satisfied with that. On The Formula, Buck's second collaborative album with the producer 9th Wonder, the little guy gets comfortable to the point of complacency. His lyrics, for the most part, are total autopilot stuff, the sorts of things that a rapper on his level should be able to come up with in the morning while he's pouring his Frosted Flakes: "I don't preach / But I do teach / My little homies in the hood how to outreach." (That's the first line on the album!) 9th, for his part, does little to justify his equal billing. His beats serviceably approximate that classic sweltering Beatminerz boom-bap, but they're too clean and orderly; there's none of that chaotic vinyl-pop grime. But then, nobody involved seems to be laboring under the perception that The Formula is going to be replacing Enta Da Stage anytime soon; this is low-risk, low-reward rap music, quite possibly the result of a few pleasantly lazy Sunday-afternoon studio sessions. Buck's still knows exactly how to use his pinched, craggy voice. With contentment gradually pushing out resentment, that voice over low-impact soul loops makes for perfectly acceptable sunny-day headphones material. The Formula is one of those albums that works better when you don't pay too much attention to it, and nobody could begrudge Buckshot the ability to consistently and steadily churn out albums just like it for the rest of his life.

As breezily pleasant as The Formula might be, though, it's hard to ignore the reality that Buckshot isn't quite as sharp as he once was. I honestly have no idea whether the same thing is true of AZ, though I find it hard to imagine. Undeniable is AZ's seventh studio album, but it's the first I've heard. AZ basically owes his career to his guest-verse on Nas's "Life's a Bitch," so I've always basically considered him the very first post-Illmatic NY rapper, and post-Illmatic NY rap has never been something I particularly cared about. In a better year for rap, I probably never would've bothered with Undeniable. That would've been my mistake. Along with Rising Down and H.N.I.C. 2, Undeniable is one of the very, very few end-to-end satisfying rap records I've heard this year. AZ's voice is nothing special; it's a punchy, ground-down east-coast mutter, but he does great things with it. Specifically, he jams every throwaway line with every internal rhyme he can find ("Doggy, since a shorty I was speaking like I'm forty"), keeping his lyrics on-message and making it sound easy. And he grounds all those writerly tricks in a shockingly cohesive and pretty musical palate. On the album's cover, AZ puffs a cigar while glancing over a New York Times and sipping a huge, expensive-looking glass of red wine, and the sound of the album goes a long way toward furthering that image of AZ as an urbane, mature, sophisticated voice. He favors underrated regional producers like Fizzy Womack and Nottz, who give the album an old-soul melodic sensibility. Koch, AZ's label, is notorious for conveniently forgetting to clear its samples, so these guys get to use all the unlicensed 70s-soul sounds they want: strings, bells, rippling quiet-storm guitars, spare snatches of vocal melody. Over tracks this luxuriant, AZ can't help but sound calm and assured. Barely any guests show up on the record, which is almost a shame; if even Ray J can sound like a grown-up on this stuff, imagine what he might've gotten out of somebody with actual talent.

comments

Hey Tom, you grab GTA4 yet? The soundtrack is pretty stellar. It has a Ghostface track, a Lil' Wayne track where talks about smoking crack (I think. I was busy shooting at cops when it came on.) And the old school station features Special Ed and Group Home.

GROUP HOME.

Posted by: Robin Thicke at May 2, 2008 4:55 PM

You do know Fizzy Womack is 1/2 of M.O.P. right? Dude isnt really underrated as much as he just started selling beats to outside rappers. And not having paid attention to 'Sugar Hill,' 'Doe or Die,' or anything on the over-ambitious, underperforming Firm album is wilde suspect.

But it was the 90s and horrid psuedo-industrial was more the fad for music critics without a genre-home

Posted by: starscream at May 2, 2008 7:32 PM

Honesty points, OK, they count for something but goddamn, you moved to New York City, and you often write about hip-hop yet...

... this if the first AZ record you listened to?! Dude, that's just negligent and I can take you out to BK to show you where decade + old AZ stickers still survive on the elevated. What's next, copping to the fact you never listened to Group Home (whose stickers-- shockingly-- still represent in East New York) either?

If you go back, you'll find AZ had made at least four excellent albums and his "failure" to make it bigger is quite interesting. I am not saying here whether it was, relative to others, "right" or "wrong" but interesting... definitely.

Re: Buckshot, I'm calling you out for a pretty superficial review. Q: How many records has Buckshot been on since "Enta Da' Stage"? How does this 9th Wonder compare to others, maybe the two records with Murs especially? Buck's never been the most lyrical member of BCC but he's still growing, which is something that can't be said of many MCs his age.

Sometimes your enthusiasm distinguishes you in a laudable way, Tom, but this was a weak effort and AZ and Buckshot at least deserve better. I do commend you for recognizing that Sean Price killed his spot on the Guilty Simpson side, and hard.

Regards,

The Music Director

Posted by: The Music Director, WWIB at May 2, 2008 9:02 PM

"Post-Illmatic NY rap has never been something I particularly cared about."

What does this even mean? On AZ, I don't like him myself, but this may actually be his worst or second worst album ever, so if you liked this one....

Posted by: Tray at May 3, 2008 4:23 AM

you developping an ego son you think you slingin it but you just listen and come up with outrageous conclusions of how the rapper "seems like he dosent care abiut anything else in the world".

somehtign like this:

"the cotton candy synth rain-top drums feels mesmerizing with INSERT RAPPERS NAME HERE's cloaked mumble-gurgle all wrapped up around it".

your game is tired man you got good opinions but you need to sound like less of a pompous asshole. real talk

Posted by: datpiff at May 3, 2008 1:05 PM

you developping an ego son you think you slingin it but you just listen and come up with outrageous conclusions of how the rapper "seems like he dosent care abiut anything else in the world".

somehtign like this: (

"the cotton candy synth rain-top drums feels mesmerizing with INSERT RAPPERS NAME HERE's cloaked mumble-gurgle all wrapped up around it".

your game is tired man you got good opinions but you need to sound like less of a pompous asshole. real talk

Posted by: datpiff at May 3, 2008 1:05 PM

where's the gratitude? these guys are survivors, lifer MCs. they should be heros (especially AZ) to aspiring rappers, and journalists should recognize their essential dopeness. these are rappers that know good hiphop from bad and won't ever let themselves completely slip. the record industry falling apart is rap's great darwinian streamline, and guys like guilty are cold enough to live with that.

Posted by: ndrwmtsn at May 3, 2008 4:43 PM

Tom has no credibility, I'm pretty sure ready to die, reasonable doubt, and about 50 other great albums came out after illmatic. Pretty lame, man.

Posted by: g-bro at May 3, 2008 9:39 PM

""Post-Illmatic NY rap has never been something I particularly cared about."

WTF. so dmx, nore, lox etc never made any good singles? LOOOOOOOL.

Posted by: lolzer at May 4, 2008 2:35 PM

pretty sure the above two people misinterpreted the meaning of "post-Illmatic" just a little bit.

Posted by: Trey Stone at May 4, 2008 4:48 PM

Dude, I peep your blog on the regular. But you lost me on AZ. How could you sleep on the God? Dude's been killin it for years and this is the first sh*t you peeped? You need to peep some of the AZ and premo collabos that are widely available. I maintain that AZ outshines Nas at this point in time in terms of consistency.

Posted by: J Smalls at May 4, 2008 6:19 PM

what did he mean by post-illmatic?

Posted by: g-bro at May 5, 2008 1:21 AM

It'd be best for Tom to answer for himself, but I'm pretty sure he was referring to a specific style rather than literally every New York rap album that dropped after Illmatic. Y'know, dense, complex rhyme-schemes, quick flow, wisdom-inflected street logic, that grime-inspired poetry--basically the style Nas more or less invented with Illmatic and then was forced to abandon after a tide of NY rappers started bitin like a motha fucka. If I'm anywhere near right with this interpretation, I must say it once more--AZ cannot count as part of that crowd since he pretty much invented that style WITH Nas.

Posted by: Pat H. at May 5, 2008 3:45 AM

This is one of those instances where Breihan was casting about for something non-American Idol/mainstream rap to write about and wound up overextended himself, doing his best to sound authoritative about something he doesn't really know. From some of his past columns he's indicated that he didn't really start listening to rap music until he was in college. But here he is holding forth on a dude like AZ, probably after pulling his discography off a torrent real quick and skimming through it once or twice. What's the point?

Posted by: Grundy at May 5, 2008 10:39 AM

Real talk:

It kills me to see people in a comment section anywhere (be it about indie hip-hop, American Idol, the NBA playoffs, the global food crisis, Presidential politics, or Cinco De Mayo hotspots) waxing "eloquent" about how fuctup the original post is, how ignorant the author is, or how grossly misrepresented the subject at hand is when they don't have ANYTHING linked in their comment.

If you feel so confident that KG deserves the MVP, show me that you posted about it on YOUR blog two weeks ago... Show some pride. Link to your shit. People do know blogs are free, right? If you can log on and read this and diss Breihan and make fun of the Village Voice and big-up David Archuleta, the same internet will take you someplace where you can make your own little billboard and post your own rambling, ill-informed opinion (or your cogent, well-researched diatribe, as the case may be) and we can judge your thoughts on their merits. The URL box is there for a reason.

To boil it down: Logging on to your computer, opening internet explorer, finding someone's blog so you can criticize their critique of something you feel strongly about (but not strongly enough to convey what you feel in a long form on a site you post to under your own umbrella)? LOLZ, Dude. LoLz.

And that's real talk.

Posted by: ondioline at May 5, 2008 1:26 PM

So you've never listened to AZ before now? So what. Why should that be some big deal? I mean there are only 24 hours in a day, and yadda yadda yadda.
Anyway, I usually agree with your opinion, and you're doing reviews of current records, so I'm glad you're just being honest and telling us what we're going to hear when we give these discs a spin. Thank you, because I'd rather read an honest opinion about something current than read some waffy nostolgic influence shit.
By the way, I was at a record store the other day and one of the clerks refered to AZ as "Azz", like, "Tap dat ..." I got a laugh.

Posted by: jared M. Thiele at May 5, 2008 2:00 PM

are y'all really that surprised someone hasn't cared about AZ's career? i read "consistent," but there's certain rappers that're technically gifted but aren't very interesting to listen to. based on what i've heard from AZ, he'd match that description nicely

only on the Internet.

Posted by: Trey Stone at May 5, 2008 4:22 PM

ondioline: well said.

9th Wonder remixed AZ's A.W.O.L. Shit is dope.

Posted by: Encyclopedia Black at May 5, 2008 5:14 PM

Undeniable is not a banger from front to back...HNIC2 isn't either.

Posted by: AmpGeez a.k.a Amplified Grammar at May 5, 2008 5:46 PM

It'd be best for Tom to answer for himself, but I'm pretty sure he was referring to a specific style rather than literally every New York rap album that dropped after Illmatic. Y'know, dense, complex rhyme-schemes, quick flow, wisdom-inflected street logic, that grime-inspired poetry--basically the style Nas more or less invented with Illmatic and then was forced to abandon after a tide of NY rappers started bitin like a motha fucka.

Like who would you put in this group?

Posted by: Tray at May 5, 2008 10:56 PM

Lol man @ these comments.
It's obvious you didn't really care about these albums that much but reviewed them simply to appease "the surprising number of comments-section denizens requesting that I say something about Guilty Simpson's Ode to the Ghetto", etc.
That's all fair enough as I'm concerned. I haven't heard any of these albums; I may download them later. But really, I'm sure they are just the standard stream of music put out by refusing-to-retire MCs from New York. Nothing wrong with that on their part. Everybody's gotta eat. But the comments section bloggers getting all up in arms about it is hilarious.

And btw guys, Group Home was never any good. People who say so now are merely riding revisionist coattail history and the spectre of beats from Primo's golden age.

Posted by: zpinzane at May 6, 2008 2:36 AM

zpinzane, Guilty is from Detroit, and this is his first album, so you should check it out. As for Group Home, their debut album is something I go back and listen to every few months. It would win the award for the worst lyrics on a classic album, but the mood premo sets on that album makes you forget that. No revisionist history here.

Posted by: cheddachasa at May 6, 2008 3:44 PM

That Group Home album is a classic, but it's not because any of them are particularly great rappers or anything.

And yeah Tom you have to check out AZ's Doe Or Die. Whoever said he invented that style with Nas is totally right, it's just that AZ put out his first album a year later and was never quite as popular. That record is up there with Illmatic and The Infamous for classic QBC shit.

Posted by: Mark P at May 6, 2008 6:56 PM

^^^AZ is from Brooklyn. (not trying to be a dick...just saying is all)

Posted by: Encyclopedia Black at May 6, 2008 7:46 PM

Tray-
The term "bitin like a motha fucka" is my attempt at understanding Tom's comments, not necessarily my own beliefs on the subject. Still, when writing that I was thinking of dudes like Nature, some CNN, Cormega, Cappadonna, Killah Priest, all of whom I personally like. For the record, my previous comment pretty much sums up Nas' own words when explaining why his style changed so drastically with "It Was Written".

As far as Group Home is concerned- can't one love an album solely for the production? Slum's Fantastic Volumes 1 and 2 don't do much for me on the lyrical tip, but Jay Dee's production on them shits is the illest I've ever come across.

Posted by: Pat H. at May 6, 2008 11:25 PM

Well, Pat, if that's what he meant, I'd still say that early Cormega, Heavy Mental, or The War Report beats 90% of the stuff Tom likes. To say nothing of other arguably "post-Illmatic" rappers like Jeru or Smoothe da Hustla, or Big Pun for that matter. Cappa and Nature... they had their moments but that's about it. Anyway, you would think imitating one of the greatest rap albums ever made could only be a good thing. As for Group Home, they couldn't rap but who cares? Guru wouldn't have had a career without Premo either. He's just that good. And it's not like they were the NY equivalent of Gucci Mane or something.

Posted by: Tray at May 7, 2008 4:42 AM

you're a very good writer(which is why i read this column), with a horrible perspective on what it is that you write about(hip-hop!).

to say that post-illmatic ny hip-hop is something that you never cared about automatically makes your opinion null and void. 94-96(even late 90's as far as the indie/underground ny scene) was one of the most creative, influential periods in hip-hop like ever.

how can you truly write about something that you havent even done the knowledge on. i mean, is it really necessary to devote an entire blog reviewing the new lil boosie mixtape?.....meanwhile admitting that you've never heard a single az album?...like not even one?..and you live in ny?

anyone who writes about hip-hop and has never heard doe or die is straight up suspect....because anyone who KNOWS, understands that undeniable is not even a top 3 az album.....doe or die, pieces of a man, and aziatic are all on a totally different level and lyrically represent what az is/was capable of.

sad really.

Posted by: j at May 7, 2008 1:35 PM

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