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50 Cent vs. Young Buck: Worst Rap Beef Ever

Posted by Tom Breihan at 5:32 PM, June 23, 2008

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I don't like the way he do it

There's a moment in this latest taped missive where 50 Cent looks meaningfully into the camera and says, "This is what money does." Well, yeah. The entire issue between 50 Cent and Young Buck appears to stem from some money that 50 Cent lent Young Buck to pay his taxes. It's that boring. During the extended fifteen-minute version of the taped conversation between 50 and Buck, that's nearly all of what they're talking about: that tax money that Buck owes 50. Buck keeps talking about how he's trying to get a tour together so he can make enough money to pay 50 back. 50 gets pissy with Buck for not paying him that money and for talking shit in interviews about unpaid royalties. And somewhere in there, Buck cries. And now, the whole sad and sordid story behind that unpaid debt is all over the internet. Money has broken up plenty of groups before, but I can't think of any other situation in which we, the public, have been allowed to hear every last dispiriting step of those escalating problems. 50's right; owing somebody money fucks you up and makes you say and do dumb things. Buck freaked out in some interview and said that 50 actually owed him money, which understandably pissed 50 off, and so 50 eventually kicked Buck out of his group. That's basically the extent of the story. But Buck cried, and that's all anybody's going to remember.

The two snippets of the taped conversation that 50 initially leaked make for a truly squirmy, uncomfortable listen. Buck starts out by promising that he's incapable of making dis records about 50, whether or not 50 kicks him out of the group. Then he says, "I know I'm out of line. I don't want you to dismember me from the group, honestly, period." And then: "I'm just tryna make you happy." When he starts talking about that tax money, he gets increasingly frothy and upset. "I'm confused a little bit," he says, and a tremor creeps into his voice. And then he cries, which we hear on the tape as him saying "pssh," or maybe sneezing, a whole bunch of times. 50 rarely interjects on Buck's ramble, and when he does, he sounds like a bored middle-school assistant principal dealing with a problem kid, all theatrical patience and condescension. Buck sounds like a pathetic nutcase, 50 sounds like an asshole, and we never should've heard this tape.

Buck's expulsion from G-Unit started out pretty amicable, at least in the sense that nobody got shot in the ass outside a radio station. "My Interview," Buck's first track addressing the story, is as much a mea culpa as it is a dis: "I do make mistakes like any other man / Shit, I recoup off an album quicker than you can," meaning Buck knows he's kind of a fuckup but thinks 50 should keep him around because he's still capable of making money. That's basically what Buck says in this video, taken from some live show Buck did. Somebody in the crowd screams "G-Unit." Buck says, "Fuck G-Unit," but then he elaborates: he's a real dude, people like real dudes, a real dude like him should be cherished, 50 heard some comments he made and misinterpreted them. (He also says a bunch of disingenuous stuff about 50 owing him money and how he can get back into drug-dealing any time he wants, but whatever.)

Then 50 leaks that tape and everything goes all to hell. Give 50 credit: with that taped conversation, he might've embarrassed Buck worse than any rapper has ever embarrassed another, maybe worse even than Jay-Z putting Prodigy's dance-class picture on the Summer Jam screen. Buck's response-track, "The Taped Conversation," is straight defensiveness: "Record my phone call when I spoke from the heart / That was a year ago; this was a joke from the start." The increasingly ridiculous Game, who can never resist an opportunity to bash 50, swooped in with a quick cheerleading assist that I can't imagine Buck wanted, rapping over the same track and everything: "Get that shit off your chest, nigga! Shed a tear or two, man!" Then 50 releases a video where he mentions all sorts of goofy shit Buck's done: running up huge car-rental bills even though he already owns a whole lot of cars, making fun of Lil Wayne for dating Trina when he was in love with her. So yeah, Buck looks pretty bad now. But 50 looks like someone who tapes all his conversations and publicly airs out all the issues he has with former friends whenever it becomes financially opportune. Neither one ends up looking good, and we can trace the whole messy story just by typing "Buck" into the Nah Right search function. (Plus: Bonus Buckshot live clips!)

Sometimes I wonder if blanket internet coverage of every developing rap beef isn't having the same effect on rap that the gaffe-obsessed 24-hour news-cycle is having on presidential elections. Whenever anybody fucks up, we immediately know exactly what happens and how bad it was. And that can be a lot of fun; God knows I always gleefully clamp onto this shit. But it also makes it pretty impossible for anyone to maintain a mystique. Buck isn't the Southern livewire (or, in any case, he isn't just that); he's the guy who can't handle his money and who cries and begs when he loses his spot in a fading rap crew, leading to the funniest Byron Crawford blog post in forever. And 50's the asshole who points and laughs when it happens. 50 can win this little dispute and still come out looking pretty detestable.

Buck, meanwhile, would do well to focus on Starbucks, the hilariously named group he's got going with fellow Nashville rapper and major-label refugee All $tar. If this first track is any indication, he still sounds great talking shit over urgent burbling synth-beats, and regional stars generally don't have to deal with this silliness anyway.

comments

I think this sums everything up pretty well. They were both wrong in certain ways. Hip Hop is such a soap opera these days.

Posted by: JK at June 23, 2008 6:46 PM

I feel Buck got what he asked for. U tell lies and then the person your telling lies about ends up airing u out. No one cares Buck cried but Bucks a liar. And if anyone didnt get that from the convo 50 talked about him lying about other dumb shit too. Most liars lie about everything. Buck seems to be one em.

That said. I always liked Buck. Haven't felt him, 50, or g unit in a long time but if he makes good music with Starbucks I'll enjoy it just the same. Who cares. Good music is good music.

Posted by: Nina at June 23, 2008 7:37 PM

TB - You're a liar! You said you wouldn't write about this!

Anyways, you summed up exactly how I viewed it. Both 50 and Buck fuck up, but 50 is cold as ice; Buck shows emotion. That's what it comes down to.

Posted by: Andrew at June 23, 2008 7:44 PM

"50 is cold as ice"
Posted by: Andrew

Cold? Because he taped and let others hear a convo between him and someone he did nothing but help who turned around and said F.U. then said he was sorry then had the nerve to turn around and do it again..c'mon now 50 gave Buck a chance to get his mind right and he still bit the hand that fed him. Thats not cold thats gettin what u deserve.

Posted by: Nina at June 23, 2008 8:00 PM

Tom, you can't contain your disappointment anytime Summer Jam ends with noone having started any beef, or a raper spends less than 50% of their new album addressing the last controversy they were in the news for. You practically docked Young Dro's mixtape a letter grade because it didn't include 5 songs about T.I. facing jailtime. Don't turn around and act like frivolous rap drama is suddenly distasteful and uninteresting to you just because this time it some mediocre B-lister you've been cheerleading his entire career finally ethered himself beyond comprehension.

Posted by: Government Names at June 23, 2008 9:14 PM

@Nina

I agree with you; Buck is sleeping in the bed he made. 50 was cold by taping the convo, and that's not a bad thing the way I look it. But "cold" does describe 50's procedure.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 23, 2008 9:19 PM

@Nina

I agree with you; Buck is sleeping in the bed he made. 50 was cold by taping the convo, and that's not a bad thing the way I look it. But "cold" does describe 50's procedure.

Posted by: Andrew at June 23, 2008 9:19 PM

frankly, i love hearing 50 speak on shit--it's like the dude either never learned about cultivating a pop star/celebrity image, or he's just so paid and secure that he figures he doesn't have to give a fuck. not saying he's always (or even usually) on point w/his comments, and of course his ego wouldn't fit in a blimp. still though, there's an openness to him when the camera's running that i don't see w/any other superstar. it's always fun to catch the little insights between all his arrogant ranting...on the other hand, if i heard right, 50 basically fingered buck and his boy for a felony in this latest interview, talkin bout how they 'handled' the problem after buck got shot. i dunno about that move.

Posted by: tilla at June 23, 2008 10:32 PM

the Shaq/Kobe beef is worse, dude...

Posted by: nick at June 23, 2008 11:19 PM

Man Young Buck is the trillest banger to ever set foot in Cashville and that man will beat 50's punk ass any day FUCK g-unit

Posted by: D.L.G. at June 23, 2008 11:36 PM

50 cent is a genious but i think he is barking up the wrong tree. I have been a fan of 50 and g-unit since i first heard them but all good things come to an end. Lloyd banks is the most talented member of g-unit no question but i also think buck has serious swag. 50 is slowly fading i believe he needs to worry about his record sales instead of beefing with rappers he shouldn't be beefing with (T.I. Young Buck Game)and this is coming from a g-unit fan.


P.S. lil wayne is a joke i fucking hate that clown

Posted by: youngwill at June 24, 2008 3:49 AM

I thought Ten Nickels was supposed to be retired after he bricked in the head-to-head with Mr. West, Mr. West, Mr. Fresh, Mr... Byhimselfhesoimpressed...

I'm with Nick. When Kobe cuts a track called "Beijing" and gets at Shaq for this latest nonsense, I expect a full post.

Also, I'm kinda surprised there isn't a bigger deal being made online out of the budding Kanye/Pearl Jam rivalry... I'll be posting my thoughts later this week, and I expect more heat to come... Evenflow, Bitches.

Posted by: ondioline at June 24, 2008 10:10 AM

I can't say I feel too bad for Young Buck. After all, let's remember a few quotes.

On The Game: "Ain't even gon' let 50 get dirty with this nigga, because I'm kinda upset at the fact that I heard the bullshit out of him and I don't know if he's aware that I recorded that conversation that we had over the phone. I ain't gon' play with that dude." [Source]

On Lil' Wayne: "You have the nerve to call me and speak upon how you having problems and Baby is taking your money. And how right Mannie Fresh is about leaving. And if he responds in any type of way, I’mma end his career ’cause I got it on tape. I’mma let the world hear him complaining." [Source]

Maybe he's the one that gave 50 the idea? Either way, maybe you shouldn't be threatening people over what they were saying on the phone when you're on the line, crying and begging another man not to cut you from an antiquainted group.

Posted by: Nzy F at June 24, 2008 10:46 AM

I'm afraid Worst Rap Beef Ever goes to the current Ice-T vs. Soulja Boy spat. But Best Rap/NBA Beef goes to Shaq and Kobe and the incredible soon-to-be hit single "Kobe, Tell Me How My Ass Tastes." This has gotta be Shaq's best material since STEEL.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 24, 2008 3:28 PM

Nzy F that shit is GOLD, nice research

Posted by: GovernmentNames at June 24, 2008 3:52 PM

That's right, Buck did always say he had this secret career-ending Wayne tape. Maybe he would say that's different because he and Wayne were never friends or whatever. No homo @ myself for even thinking about this crap.

Posted by: Tray at June 25, 2008 12:38 AM

You take a dig at Game, but all he's doing is backing up his homie, he even said him and Buck have been cool for a long time.

If your so bored of the beef, why make a blog about it, why not just ignore it??

Posted by: Shank at June 25, 2008 8:55 AM

Antiquated... DAMN! (It's true, but... DAMN!)

Posted by: ondioline at June 25, 2008 11:57 AM

Tom loves Buck, everybody knows that. Buck was Toms BFF.

After this, Tom might leave this rap shit forever. Byebye Game, bye 50, bye Wayne, bye everyone. From now on, it's straight Fleet Foxes (or some other P-Fork shit like what, Robyn? Black Devil Disco? Hercules & Gay Affair?).

Posted by: D.D. at June 25, 2008 7:37 PM

I loved all this shit. 50 Cent came off like an evil, plotting asshole and it's like he's a villain again. I'm more hyped on 50 now than I have been in years, even dug out "Get Rich..." again this past week. Buck lost

Posted by: Hambone Deluxo at June 26, 2008 10:48 AM

Ay yo both these niggas on some ho ass shit. How you gonna be a hardcore gangsta and shit cryin like a little bitch? Why was he recording that shit anyway? I think the biggest part of this beef that niggaz don't even talk about though is that 50 started gettin pissed off when Buck made up with the Game and Jada. That's the same shit Game got kicked out for! You wanna break bread with 50's enemies and then not even have a backup plan for yourself? That's what you fuckin get.

Posted by: B Free at June 27, 2008 2:20 PM

Fifty sucks and Buck swallows. I can't believe what has happened to the music I love.

Posted by: Peter Truth at June 28, 2008 8:04 PM

I respect 50 but that was kind of wack thing to do.

Posted by: Myway at June 29, 2008 2:17 PM

boooooorrrrrrrring

Posted by: camera at June 29, 2008 4:42 PM

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HA HA HA DID HE CRY, YOU KNOW HE CRYED LIL BYTCH! FIDDY I AM SO SORRY I WAS CONFUSED MAN, LMAO. "I GOT SOME CHEESBURGERS, I'LL SUCK YOUR DYCK." LMAO LIL BYTCH

Posted by: SUSH at June 30, 2008 5:44 AM

When I think of Buck.........bitch under confusion krying.Buck you lil dirty south bitch,you make the south look bad.First he was sucking Baby dick,and then fifty dick,Game wouldnt let him and now he just out to be a confused hore.

Posted by: M.M at July 14, 2008 7:23 PM

When I think of Buck.........bitch under confusion krying.Buck you lil dirty south bitch,you make the south look bad.First he was sucking Baby dick,and then fifty dick,Game wouldnt let him and now he just out to be a confused hore.

Posted by: M.M at July 14, 2008 7:23 PM

When I think of Buck.........bitch under confusion krying.Buck you lil dirty south bitch,you make the south look bad.First he was sucking Baby dick,and then fifty dick,Game wouldnt let him and now he just out to be a confused hore.

Posted by: M.M at July 14, 2008 7:23 PM

thats bullshit 50 & buck needs to take time to talk about it and get back to that G UNIT shit get money thats G UNIT AND G UNITSOUTH PS FUCK FAT JOE aka rat joe

Posted by: thehood at July 16, 2008 5:53 AM

thats bullshit 50 & buck needs to take time to talk about it and get back to that G UNIT shit get money thats G UNIT AND G UNITSOUTH PS FUCK FAT JOE aka rat joe

Posted by: thehood at July 16, 2008 5:54 AM

thats bullshit 50 & buck needs to take time to talk about it and get back to that G UNIT shit get money thats G UNIT AND G UNITSOUTH PS FUCK FAT JOE aka rat joe

Posted by: thehood at July 16, 2008 5:56 AM

FIRST OF ALL FUCK DAT NIGGA 50 CENT FUCKIN RAT...K.A.R.(KILL ALL RATS) MY NIGGS YOUNG BUCKS IS THE REALIST AND THE ONE WHO PUT THE G AN THE UNIT.....

Posted by: ESE FUCKIN MANNIE at July 25, 2008 3:03 AM

50 is a bitch ass. He only cares about two things himself and money.

G-unit will fall.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 31, 2008 9:39 AM

FUKK DA FACT BUCK CRIED H3 D@ real3st nigga that wuz n the group ya digg fiddy 50 whateva ya wana call that bytchmade nigga aint shyt he tawkn bout buck cried airing buck out he need ta tawk bout his self he stole the real 50 cent name and the real one went out lyke a gangsta.... 50 cent loyld banks tony yayo yall pussy ass niggaz tryin ta b lyke tupac and tha outlawz ya nigga jus dnt kno aint no muthafuckn replacement fa tupac dnt b lyke pac beefin wit everybody I dnt even lyke wanye but weezy wuld cutt ya ass up ya nigga love fiddy all yall fans yall letting fiddy brainwash yall ass candyshop and in da club what happen ta then gangsta sngz a gangsta singin bout BULLSHYT that's what I thought......buck u dnt need ta b wit no pussyz lyke 50 thatz yo fuckn money u a grown ass man and everythng tha u gt aint fiddy fuck him....in tha wordz of tupac FUCK ALL U BYTCHMADE NIGGA YA MUTHAFUCKAZ DNT FAZE BUCK.......

Posted by: tupac- stat3 of mynd at August 3, 2008 11:39 PM

FUKK DA FACT BUCK CRIED H3 D@ real3st nigga that wuz n the group ya digg fiddy 50 whateva ya wana call that bytchmade nigga aint shyt he tawkn bout buck cried airing buck out he need ta tawk bout his self he stole the real 50 cent name and the real one went out lyke a gangsta.... 50 cent loyld banks tony yayo yall pussy ass niggaz tryin ta b lyke tupac and tha outlawz ya nigga jus dnt kno aint no muthafuckn replacement fa tupac dnt b lyke pac beefin wit everybody I dnt even lyke wanye but weezy wuld cutt ya ass up ya nigga love fiddy all yall fans yall letting fiddy brainwash yall ass candyshop and in da club what happen ta then gangsta sngz a gangsta singin bout BULLSHYT that's what I thought......buck u dnt need ta b wit no pussyz lyke 50 thatz yo fuckn money u a grown ass man and everythng tha u gt aint fiddy fuck him....in tha wordz of tupac FUCK ALL U BYTCHMADE NIGGA YA MUTHAFUCKAZ DNT FAZE BUCK.......

Posted by: tupac- stat3 of mynd at August 3, 2008 11:40 PM

50 DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT NOTHING BUT 50,THERES A REASON THESES DUDES ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY WITH OTHERS RAPPERS,THERE PROBALLY NOT GETTING PAID LIKE THEY SHOULD ANYWAY,IVE BEEN A FAN AT ONE TIME OF ALL THESE RAPPERS BUT THE TRUTH IS JUST LIKE EVERTHING TODAY ITS LIKE WRESTLING ITS FAKE.

Posted by: 2FACE at August 5, 2008 3:22 PM

i feel buck on what tries to do but 50, 50 a bitch...that makes me think that all he has is his tapes conversations of every person in his group n by that he can fire n humiliate anybody in the crew.... 50 u a asshole....

Posted by: guero at August 7, 2008 5:47 PM

50 is Gullible and immature, he aint real like buck... matter of fact, he has broken Unit for sending buck off, most dawgs here in Nigeria like Gunit cos of this TN nigga....i wish you more good luck Buck and to ya 50 we still gon get your ass fucked again in Africa.

What a pity " I LIKE THE WAY SHE DO IT" sounds like church chorus..... lol

Posted by: Ola at August 22, 2008 7:04 PM

50 is Gullible and immature, he aint real like buck... matter of fact, he has broken Unit for sending buck off, most dawgs here in Nigeria like Gunit cos of this TN nigga....i wish you more good luck Buck and to ya 50 we still gon get your ass fucked again in Africa.

What a pity " I LIKE THE WAY SHE DO IT" sounds like church chorus..... lol

Posted by: Ola at August 22, 2008 7:05 PM

50 is gullible and immature

Posted by: Ola at August 22, 2008 7:15 PM

FUCK BUCK,FUCK GAME,FUCK FAT JOE,FUCK JARULE,FUCK CAMRON, FUCK ALL G-UNIT ENEMIES, 50 IS D BOSS

Posted by: IK JUDE FROM NIGERIA at October 3, 2008 8:04 AM

50 rules the hip-hop world so dont fuck with him, buck

Posted by: lloyd at October 17, 2008 8:06 AM

FUCK 50 CENT THATS ALL HE WORTH THE MUTHA FUCKERS IN WITH THE POLICE BUCK IS BACK IN THA STREETS HUSTLIN AGAIN LIKE HE USE TO AND 50 IS MAD CAUSE HE CANT SELL SHIT ALL THEY CAN DO IT DO IT SO FUCK GUNIT

Posted by: Anonymous at November 11, 2008 8:58 PM

fuck u if u hate gunit all of u and hates check out the new 50cent album

Posted by: angelo at August 11, 2009 6:02 AM

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