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Girl Talk's Pop-Music Car-Wreck

By Tom Breihan, Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 4:16PM
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I really hope this is his parents' house

People actually dance at Girl Talk shows. I'm not quite sure how this happens, but it does. On record and in person, the Pittsburgh laptop DJ Greg Gillis specializes in a sort of everything-at-once geyser of instantly recognizable reference-points: rappers rapping over old rock songs, old rock singers singing over rap beats, no single piece of music allowed to play for more than a few seconds before being violently disrupted by some other piece of music. It's the mash-up, that unbearable futuristic trend of six years ago, pushed way past its natural endpoint. For me, the absolute high-water mark of the whole mash-up silliness was Hollertronix's Never Scared mixtape, an omnivorous dance assault that pulled from sources spread haphazardly across genre but mostly keeping within a very specific idea of cool; Missy Elliott slashed with the Clash, say. Diplo and Low Budget actually managed to forge an aesthetic out of that blenderized idea of cool. The unfortunate byproducts of that aesthetic are currently making unbearable noise all over blog-house blogs, but I never had any trouble seeing how people could dance at Hollertronix DJ gigs. Girl Talk shows are another story. Gillis goes way more trash-culture with his song-choices, mostly swinging way away from anyone's idea of cool unless someone's idea of cool involves "Criminal Minded" careening into Paula Cole's "I Don't Wanna Wait." Gillis is totally uninterested in holding a beat for more than a second or two, which you'd think would make dancing hard. I sure as hell can't dance to the stuff. But at a Mercury Lounge show a couple of years ago, I watched a crowd bug the fuck out. Maybe whoo-ing and pogoing and spilling drinks on my shoes don't quite count as dancing, but they're something. And at the Pitchfork festival last year, things got even weirder: as Gillis hunched over his laptop on the festival's fenced-in third-stage, a massive crowd converged: climbing trees, hanging off chain-link fences, whooping from across the street. For music so based in catching references as they fly by, Girl Talk sure seems to inspire a lot of dumbing out.

Maybe I'm herbing myself out here, but I sort of like Feed the Animals, the new Girl Talk album. Actually, that's not quite right. I like individual bits and pieces of the album. Taken as a whole, the thing is just as spasmodically overwhelming as Night Ripper, its predecessor, and intense ear-fatigue sets in before I'm halfway through it. But since this isn't the first burst of reference I've heard from Gillis, it's easier to take this as something other than a vaguely risible Artistic Statement, even if Gillis is releasing it through a label called Illegal Art and giving it away for free online so nobody sues him (as if anyone cares enough to sue him). Given that Gillis is making his collages out of pop music, there are pop music thrills to be had on Feed the Animals; I remain physically incapable of hearing the opening bars from Len's "Steal My Sunshine" without grinning huge. Of course, Gillis is onto something else entirely by the time those opening bars finish, and I'm left wanting to hear the rest of the song. And maybe that's the best way to hear a Girl Talk album: as a list of reminders of songs you should really think about downloading from iTunes when you get home from the office today. (Roy Orbison's "You Got It"! Ace of Base's "All That She Wants"! Thin Lizzy's "Jailbreak"!)

Back when every rock critic was writing about mash-ups, one of the selling points was that the act of juxtaposing two unrelated songs would help bring out qualities of both songs that we hadn't heard yet; Missy Elliott's voice, for instance, would take on unexpected mournful resonance when heard over Joy Division beats. Gillis isn't interested in making any points like that, I don't think. When we hear Chuck D barking out "Rebel Without a Pause" over Heart's "Magic Man," maybe the point is that it turns Chuck into the magic man of the other song's title, sort of like how he (maybe) became the kool thing from Sonic Youth's "Kool Thing" just by ad-libbing on the track. More likely, though, I think it's just fun to hear his booming megaton voice over the weirdly psych-disco instrumental break at the middle of Heart's song. Gillis's main mission seems to be to mash those instant-recognition buttons as often as possible, to cause the instant-recognition rush we get when we hear (another example) Lil Mama rapping "Lip Gloss" over the Darkness! Imprisoning me! bit from Metallica's "One." There's no hidden connection between those two songs, and Gillis isn't trying to highlight qualities that they might share. They're just two really fun songs, and there's a tingle of surprise we get when we hear them combined like that.

But yeah, this is basically music for people with such severe ADD that they get bored listening to thirty-second song-samples on iTunes. Gillis doesn't care about internal dynamics or rising drama; he just wants to keep that adrenaline going as long as he possibly can. But my favorite moments on Feed the Animals come when he lets the chaos break for a second or two, when he lets stillness and beauty into his party. When I hear Lil Wayne or Rich Boy rapping over Sinead O'Connor's "Nothing Compares 2 U" or Aphex Twin's "Girl/Boy" song, the effect is something like when listening to The Journey, the gorgeously minimal experimental-music radio station in Grand Theft Auto IV, while trying to get through some hectic car-chase; the contrast between prettiness and giddy violence is a powerful one. So my big hope for Girl Talk is that he'll focus more on those moments of beauty. There's a bit near the end where we hear the vocals from Wiz Khalifa's "Say Yeah" (itself a self-conscious cheese-culture grab thanks to its Alice Deejay sample) over a troika of luxuriant, expansive tracks: Underworld's "Born Slippy," Usher's "Love in This Club," the Cure's "In Between Days." Those three songs sound just gorgeous together, and I'd like to hear somebody put them together without having Wiz Khalifa blathering overtop. But I guess that'd violate the tenants of Gillis's obnoxious project.

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Comments (16)

Jessica says:

We were at the same mercury lounge show, and now when I think of those dancers I think about whether they'd dance to the originals, too.

And I think that mash-up habit of squishing titles together in a sort-of clever way shows that maybe you aren't supposed to take it as anything more than sum of its parts.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 4:55PM
hotgirl69 says:

i like the review, and i do like the album. one thing to note is gillis' reference points. he often cites John Oswald or Steinski as an influences, these are guys who were pioneering this stuff decades ago, and it's about extremely fast edits. that's kind of the art to it, how fast can you move by and still keep it together. i think this style influences him way more than hollertronix.

it's also interesting to note that girl talk released his first album in 2002, which was way more glitchy-experimental, but it was still a kitchen-sink pop collage. this was 2 years before "never scared." his second album came out the same year as never scared, and even though it went un-noticed, was very impressive. people think of him as someone in the post-hollertronix era, but he's been around a long time. i even hear his high school electronic group did pop remixes in the late 90's

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 5:27PM
Anonymous says:

i can't believe you didn't reference the "no diggity" vocals over kanye's beat for "flashing lights." the album might be too cut-and-paste for my tastes, but i swear to god, that 15 seconds where they roll together is the best thing on this clunker.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 5:40PM
M says:

"the opening bars from Len's 'Steal My Sunshine'"?

You mean the breakdown from Andrea True Connection's "More More More"?

You're dead on correct about the Girl Talk album as a shopping list, though. For better and for worse---because of Night Ripper I ended up with The Best of The Emotions.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 5:41PM
Jason says:

I've seen people bug out and dance to LCD Soundsystem and to me that's much more perplexing than people dancing to a Girl Talk set.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 6:32PM
farsideoff says:

I've seen people bug out and dance to LCD Soundsystem and to me that's much more perplexing than people dancing to a Girl Talk set.

Posted by: Jason at June 24, 2008 6:32 PM
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now that's a herb.

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 8:42PM
b says:

What kind of houses do the blog-house bloggers blog from, when the blog-house bloggers are blogging about blog-house in their houses?

Posted On: Tuesday, Jun. 24 2008 @ 10:39PM
sam says:

Never Scared is definitely the Citizen Kane of mashups and the genre probably could have ended there...but Rich Boy over Girl/Boy song is amazing and I'm glad I have heard it.

Its sounds like you are too.

p.s jay electronica, jay electronica, jay electronica

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 7:02AM
FREE download says:

http://mixtapesite.com/download-960-Girl_Talk-Feed_The_Animals-free-album-download

Posted On: Wednesday, Jun. 25 2008 @ 2:57PM
Lucas says:

as much as i love this album, there are multiple instances where i can't help but instinctively think "z-trip." not that it's a bad thing, because even though they're very similar, they're goals, if you will, are totally different, but sometimes gillis' methods seem to be stepping on z's toes. and it's not like i find him using the same combos or even the same songs, but there have been a few instances where for a second i'm like "wait did z mash those on uneasy listening?"

it's sort of weird, and not really a big deal. but it highlights the complexities of djing and how "plagiarism" might be a problem/solution/jumping off point (?).

Posted On: Thursday, Jun. 26 2008 @ 6:30PM
Sean says:

I disagree on a few things. I'll name them somewhat briefly: He definitely cares about internal dynamics and rising drama. You can find it examples throughout the album, but it's not done in quite the same way that normal songs do it.

Also, he released the album for free for more reasons than to avoid being sued. His main reason, as far as I've read and heard from interviews, is the inevitability of it's availability on the Internet for free anyway: he just wanted to recognize reality. He's still releasing the album in physical format and still making money off of it, so releasing it for free as well doesn't clear him from the law at all.

It seems like you just said that was his reason so you could knock him down a peg, something you do a few times throughout the review.

Many valid points though.

Posted On: Friday, Jun. 27 2008 @ 4:10AM
REALDEEJAY1 says:

WHILE IT IS "NEAT" TO LISTEN TO ONCE OR TWICE THE PROBLEM IS HE SEEMS MORE INTERESTED IN MIXING AS MUCH AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE THAT RATHER THAN LETTING A GOOD BLEND RIDE A LITTLE WHILE, HE JUMPS OFF OF IT JUST TO CHANGE IT REGARDLESS OF IT BEING BETTER OR NOT.

THE REASON HE JUMPS AROUND LIKE A MANIAC AT HIS SHOWS IS I GUESS TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT ALL HE IS DOING IS PRESSING PLAY ON HIS ITUNES PLAYLIST OF PRE-MADE MIXES
WHICH ANY KNUCKLEHEAD CAN DO WITH A LARGE MUSIC LIBRARY & ABLETON LIVE SOFTWARE.

HOW PISSED WOULD PEOPLE BE IF THEY SHOWED UP TO A Z-TRIP SHOW & HE WAS JUST PLAYING ALL PREMIXED SHIT HE DID AT HOME ON HIS LAPTOP. GIRL TALK HAS ALOT OF PEOPLE FOOLED INTO THINKING HE HAS ANY SKILLS

GET SOME TURNTABLES OR CD J'S MIX SOMETHING LIVE GILLIS I DARE YA....

THIS ISN'T JUST A TRADITIONAL DJ MAD AT LAPTOP DEEJAYING, IT'S JUST SICKENING THE APPLAUSE HE GETS FOR PIECING TOEGETHER WAVEFORMS.

GRANDMASTER FLASH ALL DAY MAN

IT WAS ABOUT EXSTENDING THE BEST PARTS OF SONGS, NOT JUMPING AROUND JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN.


HOW DOES DJ DRAMA GET JAILED BUT THIS GUY SELLS THIS EXTRA SAMPLE HEAVY SHIT & IS FREE

WTF THERE ARE A COUPLE GOOD BLENDS ON THE CD BUT ONLY FOR 5 SECONDS AT A TIME WHY??????

& THIS CLOSE TO THE MILLION DJ MARCH IN DC

Posted On: Wednesday, Jul. 2 2008 @ 12:30PM
B!ZRK says:

You're incredibly ignorant. Gillis doesn't play pre-mixed shit. Every channel - the bass drum, the high hats, the snare, are separate sound clips, that he runs on a unified timeline. So when he transitions, he can take a bass drum out, and replace it with new bass samples, then with the snare, then vocals, instruments, new vocals, etc.

Gillis mixes live. Which is why the combinations in his live shows are often different than the combinations on his albums. Also, when he leaves the laptop, the same combos loop for longer...because he isn't there changing them. He mixes live, just like your namedrop DJ's too. We get it. You're street. You know all the best DJ's. Gillis doesn't necessarily consider himself a DJ, though, respectfully, he isn't offended by the title.

You're dumb.

Posted On: Saturday, Aug. 9 2008 @ 8:07PM
Christianhowes says:

The Review of the movie looks very good. one thing to note is gillis' reference points. he often cites John Oswald or Steinski as an influences, these are guys who were pioneering this stuff decades ago, and it's about extremely fast edits. that's kind of the art to it, how fast can you move by and still keep it together. i think this style influences him way more than hollertronix.

Christian howes - Innovative music,Music producer, Music Composer

Posted On: Saturday, Oct. 25 2008 @ 3:10AM
Tummy Tuck says:

I gotta say that is a good post

Posted On: Tuesday, Jan. 6 2009 @ 1:24AM
Wrongful Death says:

Was there a wrongful death lawsuit filed by the victims family of the Oakland subway shooting?

Posted On: Saturday, Jan. 31 2009 @ 2:52AM

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